Shouldn't Edo Tensei Madara be banned from top 10s?

[Prestonyoko]

No he shouldn't. Unlike other Edos, he broke free and became his own character, so he counts.

But he dosn't come back to life when he breaks the seal, he's still dead so it still shouldn't count, and his body still has the Haxed Abilities of Edo Tensei

 

[ShonenAnimeFreak]

i mostly agree with your thread, i just have 2 issues

i think people such as tobirama, minato, kakashi even Killer B could POTENTIALLY beat muu
and i am a little weary if kabuto and oro should be at the top cuz of edo tensei because when kabuto showed masked obito how ET is used, it takes a little while to summon the host, do the ritual and use the talisman on the edo but this can be argued with so im not too sure

 

[i OblivioN i]

Edo Itachi > Edo Madara

 

[Prestonyoko]

The battle might as well be an edo vs whoever since the caster can just run and hide while the edo stays on the opponent not giving them any room to attack the caster. Heck, it wouldn't matter if they attack the caster the edo would keep going. That's why it's unfair.

Well justu were meant to give another person an advantage over another, Jutsu aren't meant to really be "fair" when used to kill somebody

 

[Meee]

Its fair because the characters themselves aren't edo tensei, only the techniques their using

Honestly I see no difference between being an Edo and Using an Edo, it all seems the same to me if your going to include Edo Tensei then he should be as well IMO but whatever you want bro

 

[Tormound]

I have no problem if people create a top 10 list with edo Madara in it, my problem comes from the fact that people lump Madara and Edo Madara together and just put him on top without differentiating.

 

[Kyno]

Kabuto and Oro do not belong on the top ten list. I don't agree with edo tensei being listed as a power in one's abilities. You can summon anyone, but that doesn't make your power their own. You would also have to assume that they have dna prepared, but that means that they get a chance to prepare for a matchup, when in reality there are no preparations intrinsic in ones abilities. Kabuto can't use edo without having prepped it first, and neither can oro, so I disagree with it being used as a judgement of his skill.

Edit: I agree with the list except for the use of the edo users.

 

[UchihaKira]

But he dosn't come back to life when he breaks the seal, he's still dead so it still shouldn't count, and his body still has the Haxed Abilities of Edo Tensei

Take it up with Kishi? Hes alive as long as he wants to be and is not under anyones control. I guess 8 gate Gai isnt allowed either since he dies after using it. An ability being too strong is a stupid reason to not include a character in an anime on a top 10 list. Isnt the point of a top 10 list to show who the strongest is? Not including the strongest character into a top 10 list just seems like an excuse to put someone else #1. As long as someone is in control of their own self they should be valid.

 

[Unbiased King]

Well, he is canon.

 

[Sherlock.]

Still Prime Hashi and Prime Madara are above DSM Kabuto and Oro.... =D =D

 

[UchihaKira]

Honestly I see no difference between being an Edo and Using an Edo, it all seems the same to me if your going to include Edo Tensei then he should be as well IMO but whatever you want bro

Completely agree, as OP as having Edos is who are we to say that isnt included in someones power? It obviously is. People trying to not include certain characters in top 10s is just their way of putting who they want where they want with an excuse.

 

[Punk Hazard]

But he dosn't come back to life when he breaks the seal, he's still dead so it still shouldn't count, and his body still has the Haxed Abilities of Edo Tensei

Well, Madara is haxxed then. That's just too bad.

 

[Jako98146]

Madara should still be at top 5, since he was able to solo Oonoki and then later Muu, while holding back. Plus he could still use PS without rinnegan

But besides that, I agree that edos shouldn't be put in top 10's

 

[Kyno]

It all depends if Madara is this young or an old man when he is revived as to whether or not this edo madara is valid imo

 

[GenKiDama]

only idiots put edo's in top 10 lists

 

[slaton02]

Agree'd Edo's are undead and can only be sealed and was made by someone else and not themselves, here for shouldn't be counted.

 

[Prestonyoko]

Still Prime Hashi and Prime Madara are above DSM Kabuto and Oro.... =D =D

How in the World could Madara or Hashirama solo Kabuto or Orochimaru?

Neither one of them could solo either an Army of Legendary Ninja, or the 4 past Hokages, and note that they can only be defeated if sealed, Hashirama stands the best chance but him being merely human will be overpowered by Zombie Ninja

 

[Kyno]

Completely agree, as OP as having Edos is who are we to say that isnt included in someones power? It obviously is. People trying to not include certain characters in top 10s is just their way of putting who they want where they want with an excuse.

Because it assumes too much. The ability to use edo tensei doesn't mean you have ****ing madara to do it with. It's true, the ability to summon madara makes them strong, but summoning Konohamaru will do nothing for you. And you can't just say that "kabuto has the ability to summon Madara" because that's not a true statement in every scenario. If you summon 1000 0's, you still have 0. If you just give kabuto whoever he wants, then yes, he always wins. But let's say we use the scenario like we have currently: Kabuto has no one powerful left to summon. Most of them have been dealt with, and Madara is under his own control. So, in this scenario, Kabuto is nowhere near top 10.

So Edo summoners are out. Well, their edo ability requires set conditions which are not viable in eery scenario, so you can't just say it's always the best conditions for them.

 

[Prestonyoko]

Madara should still be at top 5, since he was able to solo Oonoki and then later Muu, while holding back. Plus he could still use PS without rinnegan

But besides that, I agree that edos shouldn't be put in top 10's

I put on Prime Madara that he can use Perfect Susano'o, Please read the thread

 

[Kyno]

If you count Edo Tensei users as having whatever Edo Tensei DNA they need/they once had as valid, that means you must necessarily count Itachi's ownership of Shisui's eye, easily making him the top ninja on the list. After all, things you aquire outside are counted if Edo abilities are counted. If anything, Danzo should also be up there. Kotoamatsukami, as far as we know it, has the ability to make anyone do anything that the user wants. This could include just standing still and doing nothing or simply killing themselves theoretically. So, 1. Itachi get's shisui's eye if edo tensei users get previously acquired DNA, and 2. Depending on whether or not Itachi get's Kotoamatsukami, Danzo should in reality be 2nd or 1st.