Should Itachi have stayed bad?

[Bling Kai]

Many people think Kishi ruined itachi's character when was revieled to be good. Is this true or not?

 

[Gein]

Itachi's character is a whole bunch of bs. Kishi wanted him to be bad then he asspulled an entire conspiracy involving him.

 

[FleeOnSight]

Nah. IMO he had a epic death, if he would have stayed bad his death probably would have been cheap llike most akatsuki that lost to either naruto or sasuke.

 

[NukaCola]

He had a lot of potential as a bad guy, even more than Orochimaru.

 

[ComplexCity]

He was never bad... :|

 

[Chie]

Many people think Kishi ruined itachi's character when was revieled to be good. Is this true or not?

Actually, most people think quite the opposite. They love him as a good guy. However, the thing is that everyone wanted to see him as a bad guy as well, because he was so epic and he wouldn't ever get annoying at times (the way that sometimes Orochimaru, Obito, Madara, and others do).

When he was a bad guy, he ranked 9th in the popularity polls. When he was a good guy, he ranked 5th.

As for whether it ruined his character, not at all imo. It wasn't "bs" and only haters say things like that. His character was purposely made to be ambiguous. In the 1st databook, it stated that in his life he only went on one S-Rank mission (hint-hint) and in the 2nd databook which came out in 2006, it stated that his true motives had not yet been revealed and that there's more to him (hint-hint). Then, there were hints throughout Shippuden as it was leading up to his final fight and even in pt1 (said that he, Kisame, & other Akatsuki could not defeat one person [that lie ], showed no visible enjoyment for combat, Kakashi wondered why Itachi wouldn't kill him, Itachi made multiple excuses and stated he didn't want to fight, Itachi warned Asuma & Kurenai, Itachi and Kisame stopped at a tea shop...when they were supposed to capture Naruto and in a village that looks for them (they obviously wanted to get noticed & Itachi was in no hurry...mainly because he wasn't there for that), Itachi held back when he fought, etc.

Also keep in mind that making Itachi a villain wouldn't make much sense. In pt1, the story was that he was a good, respectful person but then he one day snapped and killed everyone to test how strong he was...when he was praised to be the best of his generation. That makes no sense. He already knew he was the best and he also claimed that his entire life had been a facade at that point, but one cannot fake the way they act at every moment during the age of 4 or 10 or even 13. The manga was basically telling us that he killed everyone he liked/loved for no reason. That's just bad writing. His personality was also not fit for a villain's. He is way too calm and sane to be one in this series. All the other ones can be composed, but they do go crazy when something is wrong or under ideal circumstances (Maddy when Hashi's around, Oro when Hiruzen was sealing his arms, Obito anytime Rin is mentioned, Nagato when Yahiko died, etc). Itachi is the most stoic character in the series and the villains are insane to an extent, he doesn't fit the bill for that at all. It was better writing for him to be a good guy, that makes more sense.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

given he was never good and is still evil, i doubt this.

showed no visible enjoyment for combat

because hes so arrogant that he viewed them as insects not worth itt,

Kakashi wondered why Itachi wouldn't kill him

and thenalmost immediatley afterwards, orders kisame to murder kakashi

), Itachi held back when he fought, etc.

again why use full power on ants

The manga was basically telling us that he killed everyone he liked/loved for no reason. That's just bad writing. His personality was also not fit for a villain's.

given he is one, this is wrong

s that he killed everyone he liked/loved for no reason

thats basically what we are still told now. itachi rushed into genocide without targeting the few people actually responsible, or making efforts to maybe resolve it all without bloodshed

He is way too calm and sane to be one in this series.

he is way too violent cruel and insane to not be one, as shown by his brutal tortures and beatings

It was better writing for him to be a good guy,

which he wasnt the moment he tortured his brother to insanity

 

[Conspirator.]

given he was never good and is still evil, i doubt this.

because hes so arrogant that he viewed them as insects not worth itt,

and thenalmost immediatley afterwards, orders kisame to murder kakashi

again why use full power on ants

given he is one, this is wrong

thats basically what we are still told now. itachi rushed into genocide without targeting the few people actually responsible, or making efforts to maybe resolve it all without bloodshed


he is way too violent cruel and insane to not be one, as shown by his brutal tortures and beatings

which he wasnt the moment he tortured his brother to insanity

Itachi is like an anti villain or an anti hero.(depending on your opinion) He isn't your traditional hero.

 

[Incendiary]

Itachi was never conceived as a "bad" character, or even "evil". I believe the purpose of his character was to show that true love and self-sacrifice and loyalty to the greater good can really exist in the Uchiha line. It was actually Itachi who "broke the cycle of the Uchiha hatred" by putting the greater good of the world above the pride of his clan, and by protecting not himself, but the one he loved. For me, Itachi's story is the most touching in the entire series, and reflects the tough choices people must make even in real life when faced with inescapable situations and fates. Plus, it is good to know that someone so handsome is also so kindhearted, right?

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

. I believe the purpose of his character was to show that true love and self-sacrifice and loyalty to the greater good can really exist in the Uchiha line.

is that why he was a violent torturing sociopath for most of his life? and showed loyalty only to himself given his plans for brainwashing and murder, and his advocation of letting orochimaru and danzo do whatever they want?
also his idea of loyalty to the greater good is only everbeing loyal to one city, and said city isnt even a nice place

ne. It was actually Itachi who "broke the cycle of the Uchiha hatred" by putting the greater good of the world above the pride of his clan

not really.it was itachi who corrupted and tortured sauske to insanity, and put his need to manipulate and trick sasuke above the defence of the world vs psychopaths like danzo kabuto and oro. he put konoha above everywhere else with his doomed KA plan.

reflects the tough choices people must make even in real life when faced with inescapable situations and fates.

it also reflects why its not a good idea to torture small children and turn them into power hungry obsessed killers

 

[Chie]

given he was never good and is still evil, i doubt this.

because hes so arrogant that he viewed them as insects not worth itt,

and thenalmost immediatley afterwards, orders kisame to murder kakashi

again why use full power on ants

given he is one, this is wrong

thats basically what we are still told now. itachi rushed into genocide without targeting the few people actually responsible, or making efforts to maybe resolve it all without bloodshed


he is way too violent cruel and insane to not be one, as shown by his brutal tortures and beatings

which he wasnt the moment he tortured his brother to insanity

He's not cruel, violent, or insane. And he only told Kisame to do that after Kakashi started blurting out what he knew about them.

Yeah, he definitely did do morally questionable things. He's an anti-hero.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

He's not cruel, violent, or insane.

murdering 6 jins, murdering his family, torturing sasuke twice, giving sauske the worst beating in the series, torturing kakashi and torturing naruto says otherwise

he definitely did do morally questionable things. He's an anti-hero.

anti heroes are more like jerks who are inherently good. itachi is evil and knows it. he placed manipulating sasuke above the safety of thousands.
if he was only anti heroic from the start he would have nothing to be sorry for in the war arc

 

[Cassus]

Hib being good kept the story going for Sasuke. I thought a few of the things he did while undercover and pretending to be evil were a little extreme but at least it was convincing.

 

[Incendiary]

is that why he was a violent torturing sociopath for most of his life? and showed loyalty only to himself given his plans for brainwashing and murder, and his advocation of letting orochimaru and danzo do whatever they want?
also his idea of loyalty to the greater good is only everbeing loyal to one city, and said city isnt even a nice place
not really.it was itachi who corrupted and tortured sauske to insanity, and put his need to manipulate and trick sasuke above the defence of the world vs psychopaths like danzo kabuto and oro. he put konoha above everywhere else with his doomed KA plan.

it also reflects why its not a good idea to torture small children and turn them into power hungry obsessed killers

*Spoilers here*

But he explained why he had done what he did with Sasuke - he simply could not just come up to him and tell him "Hey, you should be really good, just opposite of me, for doing what I did". He wanted Sasuke to become powerful to one day change the system and he wanted to die by Sasuke's hand... I know that sounds very wrong but what other choice did Itachi have? It was both Itachi's proposed road and all the other events combined (Naruto's growing power, Orochimaru, etc) which "changed" Sasuke. I see it as being inevitable, unfortunately. And yes Itachi did not admit to his illusions until the very end, and that is what makes him a (tragic?)anti-hero. Oh, and it's not like he didn't suffer when he killed his clan. Remember he was crying when he killed his parents? Even they said he was a "gentle, kind son" because they knew he had no other choice. The internal turmoil must be one of the reason he told Sasuke to hate him; any sane, kind person in such a situation might utter a thing like that.

Finally, he never did maliciously torture Sasuke. He protected Sasuke, and the one time he met with him in part 1 he had to keep up his facade. He went to Konoha to remind Danzo of his existence with the death of the Third Hokage, so that they remember the pact that was made and that Itachi was still alive and ready to take revenge or defend Sasuke if anything happens. Lastly, Itachi got rid of the piece of Orochimaru that was inside of Sasuke during their battle, freeing him from that creepy guy. He gave Sasuke his powers, and although they made Sasuke a bit blind, they allowed him to take revenge on Danzo (I hated that guy) who was actually the force behind the whole Uchiha massacre. Itachi did realize his mistake of having Sasuke hate, and entrusted Naruto to help him.

 

[Xāvî1]

Itachi was never bad to begin with

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Itachi's character is a whole bunch of bs. Kishi wanted him to be bad then he asspulled an entire conspiracy involving him.

This is how it seemed like.

Even if it was planned from the beginning, it was horribly executed and is just riddled with plot holes and inconsistencies that makes it seem like a retcon.

Itachi was more interesting as an affably evil villain too, perhaps even could had made him an anti-villain. I actually liked him more before learning that he's an abusive, manipulative, egocentric mary sue "good guy" who's ends justify the means and is the worst double-agent I've ever seen.

I can see why people like him, but being his fan really seems like a case of battered wife syndrome: "He's really not so bad once you get to know him. He truly loves me."

 

[kimb]

I think Itachi would have been more badass if he had token out the Uchiha clan for his own personal motives, but Itachi is still amazing regardless.

 

[madvictory]

Actually, most people think quite the opposite. They love him as a good guy. However, the thing is that everyone wanted to see him as a bad guy as well, because he was so epic and he wouldn't ever get annoying at times (the way that sometimes Orochimaru, Obito, Madara, and others do).

When he was a bad guy, he ranked 9th in the popularity polls. When he was a good guy, he ranked 5th.

As for whether it ruined his character, not at all imo. It wasn't "bs" and only haters say things like that. His character was purposely made to be ambiguous. In the 1st databook, it stated that in his life he only went on one S-Rank mission (hint-hint) and in the 2nd databook which came out in 2006, it stated that his true motives had not yet been revealed and that there's more to him (hint-hint). Then, there were hints throughout Shippuden as it was leading up to his final fight and even in pt1 (said that he, Kisame, & other Akatsuki could not defeat one person [that lie ], showed no visible enjoyment for combat, Kakashi wondered why Itachi wouldn't kill him, Itachi made multiple excuses and stated he didn't want to fight, Itachi warned Asuma & Kurenai, Itachi and Kisame stopped at a tea shop...when they were supposed to capture Naruto and in a village that looks for them (they obviously wanted to get noticed & Itachi was in no hurry...mainly because he wasn't there for that), Itachi held back when he fought, etc.

Also keep in mind that making Itachi a villain wouldn't make much sense. In pt1, the story was that he was a good, respectful person but then he one day snapped and killed everyone to test how strong he was...when he was praised to be the best of his generation. That makes no sense. He already knew he was the best and he also claimed that his entire life had been a facade at that point, but one cannot fake the way they act at every moment during the age of 4 or 10 or even 13. The manga was basically telling us that he killed everyone he liked/loved for no reason. That's just bad writing. His personality was also not fit for a villain's. He is way too calm and sane to be one in this series. All the other ones can be composed, but they do go crazy when something is wrong or under ideal circumstances (Maddy when Hashi's around, Oro when Hiruzen was sealing his arms, Obito anytime Rin is mentioned, Nagato when Yahiko died, etc). Itachi is the most stoic character in the series and the villains are insane to an extent, he doesn't fit the bill for that at all. It was better writing for him to be a good guy, that makes more sense.

What polls? Polls in websites in which only 30 people participated? Polls in websites like this one? Lmfao.

 

[shelke]

He's not cruel, violent, or insane. And he only told Kisame to do that after Kakashi started blurting out what he knew about them.

Yeah, he definitely did do morally questionable things. He's an anti-hero.

Itachi is a psychotic, third grade, loopy nut-job. I cannot believe folks here actually endeavour to gloss over his cruelties.

 

[Dantee]

It would have been cooler if he was bad honestly. Think about it? Sasuke was dedicated to killing this one man and ITachi had all the hype in the world at the time as a villian.