Shooting at Draw Muhammad event in Texas

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" (CNN)A day after police killed two gunmen who tried to ambush a Garland, Texas, event featuring controversial cartoons of the Muslim Prophet Mohammed, details began to emerge about the shooters.

One suspect, identified as Elton Simpson by a federal law enforcement source, linked himself to ISIS in a tweet posted just before the attack.

He also was no stranger to federal investigators. In 2011, he was convicted of making a false statement involving international and domestic terrorism.

The other suspect, identified as Nadir Soofi by two federal law enforcement officials, was Simpson's roommate in a Phoenix apartment. "

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"According to court documents, Simpson was born in Illinois and then moved to Phoenix, Arizona, where he “converted to the Muslim religion at a young age.”

His attorney during the 2010 trial, Kristina Sitton, told ABC News that Simpson was on the no-fly list and the FBI had tried to convince him to cooperate with them, including after his conviction. Sitton said she thought Simpson was “harmless,” according to ABC News:

He grew up the most normal guy. Just a normal high school guy… Converting to Islam seemed like a good thing for him. He had been going down a bad path and then he found Islam. He never struck me as someone who would do this sort of thing. I’m not a bleeding heart, I’m a Republican. I’ve seen some pretty bad guys and he seemed pretty normal.

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Another post, by Mujahid Miski, read, “The brothers from the Charlie Hebdo attack did their part. It’s time for brothers in the US to do their part.”

Mujahid Miski had communicated with Simpson, according to social media posts. Miski is the alias of American jihaid Mohamed Abdullahi Hassan, who is wanted by the FBI for traveling to Somali and joining al-Shabaab. He is known to have recruited supporters for ISIS, al-Shabaab and other Islamic terror groups.

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Simpson is believed to have posted on his Twitter account to take responsibility before the shooting just before it happened. The account has since been deleted.

The tweet, which includes the hashtag #texasattack, reads, “The bro with me and myself have given bay’ah to Amirul Mu’mineen. May Allah accept us as mujahideen. Make dua”

The post was made at 6:35 p.m., about 20 minutes before news of the shooting was first reported. The account contains several tweets referencing ISIS and Islamic terrorists.

Bay’ah means to give an oath of allegiance, in this case to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS known also as Amir al-Mu’minin.

“Make dua” means to call out in prayer.

He also told his users to follow @_AbuHu55ain, who posted about the shooting before the account was suspended.

According to the SITE intelligence service, the account belonged to British ISIS fighter Junaid Hussain. "

Well, here in America, we have guns.

So it didn't work out very well for them.

By the way - the cartoon of Muhammad that won?

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Drawn by a former Muslim.

 

[LordRaikage]

hmph these *******s were asking for it, why make fun of another religion?

 

[Yubel]

Trust me when I say muslims will be declaring war worldwide at this stuff if it doesn't stop.

 

[Songbird Supreme]

Islam, Christianity, Judaism. All of them are crazy.

 

[Gerkak]

Disgusting people. Why make fun of other people's religion?

 

[GhostProject]

Wait some of you are more concerned that religion was made fun of sort of... than the fact they shot this place up?

Has anyone watched SNL, South Park, etc? People make fun of religion all the time, this response is ridiculous.

 

[Gerkak]

Wait some of you are more concerned that religion was made fun of sort of... than the fact they shot this place up?

Has anyone watched SNL, South Park, etc? People make fun of religion all the time, this response is ridiculous.

Of course the response was irrational and over the top, however these people made the event knowing that such a response could occur. It is like asking for something to happen.

People making fun of something all the time doesn't make it right nor does it make it excusable. Racism at one time was much more widespread and practiced than it is now, was it right then? No.

These people should stop such events since they know that such practices provoke those kinds of responses

 

[ayesha161]

B's. What goes around comes around.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

Disgusting people. Why make fun of other people's religion?

Why is it disgusting when people jokes about a religion.

Pretty share it be disgusting if someone decided to kill another person base on that joke.

hmph these *******s were asking for it, why make fun of another religion?

In what mind would a person find the gunmans action acceptable over a joke on paper.
No one deserves to get killed over such things.
It's pathetic.

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

That event was obvious bait.

 

[Aim64C]

hmph these *******s were asking for it, why make fun of another religion?

Trust me when I say muslims will be declaring war worldwide at this stuff if it doesn't stop.

Disgusting people. Why make fun of other people's religion?

Of course the response was irrational and over the top, however these people made the event knowing that such a response could occur. It is like asking for something to happen.

People making fun of something all the time doesn't make it right nor does it make it excusable. Racism at one time was much more widespread and practiced than it is now, was it right then? No.

These people should stop such events since they know that such practices provoke those kinds of responses

I am sure you all will be disappointed to learn that no one, other than one police officer and the attacking Muslims, was harmed. The two gunmen died within moments of opening fire on the officers outside.

So, by all means, let Muslims declare war against this type of event.

There exist people like myself who would volunteer to provide security for free.

 

[GhostProject]

Of course the response was irrational and over the top, however these people made the event knowing that such a response could occur. It is like asking for something to happen.

People making fun of something all the time doesn't make it right nor does it make it excusable. Racism at one time was much more widespread and practiced than it is now, was it right then? No.

These people should stop such events since they know that such practices provoke those kinds of responses

Religion is something one chooses unlike race. As such, it is inevitable to be poked at. I'm spiritual, and would prefer us all get along in perfect harmony, but the jokes aren't stopping about religion. It's impractical.

And you can't stop because of fear, it sends the wrong messages to the world.

 

[Gerkak]

Why is it disgusting when people jokes about a religion.

Pretty share it be disgusting if someone decided to kill another person base on that joke.

It is disgusting because to some people, their religion is part of their identity, similar to their race. Would you not call racism disgusting?

I never said I did not find killing another person disgusting, but provoking other people is also bad. I do not agree with the violent response taken but those that organised the event did so knowing that it may provoke such responses.

Meaning they did without care or consideration for the thoughts and beliefs of others, thus making them disgusting human beings

Religion is something one chooses unlike race. As such, it is inevitable to be poked at. I'm spiritual, and would prefer us all get along in perfect harmony, but the jokes aren't stopping about religion. It's impractical.

And you can't stop because of fear, it sends the wrong messages to the world.

Some people still consider their religion part of their identity. For example, in many religions it is taught that race doesn't matter as much as the religion one follows. You can't change people's way of thinking so easily.

Racism isn't stopping either it doesn't make it any less wrong. Different people are affected by different things, why not stop causing unnecessary conflict? If something provokes such responses, stop it entirely.

 

[Kingu]

I am sure you all will be disappointed to learn that no one, other than one police officer and the attacking Muslims, was harmed. The two gunmen died within moments of opening fire on the officers outside.

So, by all means, let t Terrorists declare war against this type of event.

There exist people like myself who would volunteer to provide security for free.

Fixed it for you, it's okay people make mistakes all the time. No need to thank me. U_U

 

[Bronze]

It's a move to terrorize Islam.

They knew drawing pictures of the Prophet will result in violence, as seen in the Paris shoot down as well as other incidents. They knew they it will provoke Muslims. They asked for trouble and it got to them. Things approached to their plan.

1. They drew pictures of the Prophet.
2. Muslims take it to a violent level.
3. It goes to the media and everyone will develop hate and fear toward Muslims.

 

[Aim64C]

It is disgusting because to some people, their religion is part of their identity, similar to their race. Would you not call racism disgusting?

I never said I did not find killing another person disgusting, but provoking other people is also bad. I do not agree with the violent response taken but those that organised the event did so knowing that it may provoke such responses.

Meaning they did without care or consideration for the thoughts and beliefs of others, thus making them disgusting human beings

And I said: "Apple" even though someone with a neurological disorder could potentially have interpreted that as a death threat and will lunge through the window to kill me. How inconsiderate and provocative of me.

I've also just offended everyone with a neurological disorder. Oh, the horror. Clearly, I deserve a rampaging liberal to come kick in my door and rape my cat.

Yeah - their actions were detestable, but PETA will understand that it was necessary to illustrate to me just how unacceptable my inconsiderate statement was.

This is why liberalism is a mental disorder.

There are events held all over the place for all different manner of things that may or may not be considered offensive to some groups. Some of them are more predictable than others. It is logically impossible to live life according to what will not offend others. Someone out there will always (or could potentially be) offended by your very existence. Or by your death. So you can't even commit suicide to appease some while living to appease others.

 

[Gerkak]

I am sure you all will be disappointed to learn that no one, other than one police officer and the attacking Muslims, was harmed. The two gunmen died within moments of opening fire on the officers outside.

So, by all means, let Muslims declare war against this type of event.

There exist people like myself who would volunteer to provide security for free.

Why would I be disappointed? You make it seem like I want people to be violent or killed.

You view is shallow, so the beliefs and actions of people less than 10,000 people speak for over 1.6 billion muslims? I might as well start blaming atheists for the crimes of the soviet union, since it is socialist, atheistic organisation.

Muslims have not declared any war unless the majority of them choose to do so.

If you choose to provide security, good for you. It is great that you aid the public.

 

[GhostProject]

It is disgusting because to some people, their religion is part of their identity, similar to their race. Would you not call racism disgusting?

I never said I did not find killing another person disgusting, but provoking other people is also bad. I do not agree with the violent response taken but those that organised the event did so knowing that it may provoke such responses.

Meaning they did without care or consideration for the thoughts and beliefs of others, thus making them disgusting human beings



Some people still consider their religion part of their identity. For example, in many religions it is taught that race doesn't matter as much as the religion one follows. You can't change people's way of thinking so easily.

Racism isn't stopping either it doesn't make it any less wrong. Different people are affected by different things, why not stop causing unnecessary conflict? If something provokes such responses, stop it entirely.

Entertainment is built off of making fun of people. My race is made fun of by tons of comedians, my religion as well, my gender is vilified, and EVERYONE's political views are demonized no matter what they believe. People need to stop being so soft and pick their battles where they count.

If something so small provokes such responses, then maybe it's time for them to lighten up.

 

[Gerkak]

Entertainment is built off of making fun of people. My race is made fun of by tons of comedians, my religion as well, my gender is vilified, and EVERYONE's political views are demonized no matter what they believe. People need to stop being so soft and pick their battles where they count.

If something so small provokes such responses, then maybe it's time for them to lighten up.

Tell that them. For me such things don't bother me, but it does bother some people of the violent kind. This causes such unfortunate events. My main point is, since the views of the violent ones won't change then it should just stop.

If the jokes don't stop, the violence wouldn't either. It is unfortunate U_U.

 

[Aim64C]

Fixed it for you, it's okay people make mistakes all the time. No need to thank me. U_U

I suppose you are correct.

Islam has an openly declared war:

Surat At-Tawbah, Ayat 5: And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

Ayat 14: Fight them; Allah will punish them by your hands and will disgrace them and give you victory over them and satisfy the breasts of a believing people

The infamous Ayat 29: Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.

Ayat 30-33: The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded? They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah , and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him. They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah refuses except to perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it. It is He who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although they who associate others with Allah dislike it.

So, yes, in this regard - the terrorists would only need to declare war if they do not recognize that Muhammad declared a state of open war 1400 years ago.

It's a move to terrorize Islam.

They knew drawing pictures of the Prophet will result in violence, as seen in the Paris shoot down as well as other incidents. They knew they it will provoke Muslims. They asked for trouble and it got to them. Things approached to their plan.

1. They drew pictures of the Prophet.
2. Muslims take it to a violent level.
3. It goes to the media and everyone will develop hate and fear toward Muslims.

Sounds to me like what you're saying is that Muslims are terrorists and all it took was an event that offended them to provide evidence for this.

Or, at the very least, the teachings of Islam are exceptionally vulnerable to radicalization.

Probably has something to do with a book chock full of verses like the above.