Shisui's and Sakumo's abilities

[Guardian of the Rain]

I think it's safe to say that Sakumo Hatake and Shisui Uchiha will never be shown in combat because Naruto is close to ending so let's just give them reasonable abilites.
Shisui:
-Basically Itachi but has KA instead of Amaterasu
-Shuriken and kunai mastery
-As smart as Itachi or smarter
-Great Fire Ball Jutsu
-Tsukiyomi
Sakumo:
-Super skilled with using his White Chakra Sabre
-Faster than average, let's say as fast as Sasuke
-Genius because Kakashi probably inherited his intelligence from him
-Lightning element
Whatcha think?

 

[Hipster Madara]

I think it's safe to say that Sakumo Hatake and Shisui Uchiha will never be shown in combat because Naruto is close to ending so let's just give them reasonable abilites.
Shisui:
-Basically Itachi but has KA instead of Amaterasu
-Shuriken and kunai mastery
-As smart as Itachi
-Great Fire Ball Jutsu
-Susano'o with no special items
-Tsukiyomi
Sakumo:
-Super skilled with using his White Chakra Sabre
-Faster than average, let's say as fast as Sasuke
-Genius because Kakashi probably inherited his intelligence from him
-Lightning element
Whatcha think?

For shisui, none of these were stated in the manga....
we dont know how smart he is or what jutsus he had other than KA

 

[Lt Fresh]

-For Shisui, I wouldn't say he had Susanoo or Tsukynomi. For the simple fact Tsukynomi is an MS tech but Shisui had KA in both eyes, so he couldnt have Tsukynomi in one of them. Also to have Susanoo you need to have two different MS techs, he only had 1.

-For Sakumo thats all we can say I guess so good job

 

[jordan1]

I think shisui is overated just for having KA

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

For shisui, none of these were stated in the manga....
we dont know how smart he is or what jutsus he had other than KA

It was said he was as skilled as Itachi so it doesnt sound too bad:shrug:
I know that we don't know but it's safe to assume those are it being he is an Uchiha

 

[Owarij]

Shishui didn't have susanno, you need amaterasu and tsukyomi for susanno

He was as smart or smarter than itachi , according to jiraya, the level of your genjutsu depends on your intelligence... which is why it's rare, and the ones who do use genjutsu are geniuses , shishui was known to be a better genjutsu user than itachi, infact known worldwide for his genjutsu.. that shows he must have been either = or > itachi in that category..

his speed, something else that was known world wide. Known as shishui of the body flicker.. To get a moniker is no simple thing , look at yellow flash, who also had a speed moniker

his other ms jutsu, idk , It Would be something relating to ninjutsu though, since ms's seem to work like 1) genjutsu, 1) ninjutsu

and at the time when itachi was about 13, it was hinted that shishui was either = him, or close behind.. but that's no small feat.. 11 year old itachi was able to dispose of sannins without mangekyou

 

[Izzy..]

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I think it's safe to say that Sakumo Hatake and Shisui Uchiha will never be shown in combat because Naruto is close to ending so let's just give them reasonable abilites.
Shisui:
-Basically Itachi but has KA instead of Amaterasu
-Shuriken and kunai mastery
-As smart as Itachi
-Great Fire Ball Jutsu
-Susano'o with no special items
-Tsukiyomi
Sakumo:
-Super skilled with using his White Chakra Sabre
-Faster than average, let's say as fast as Sasuke
-Genius because Kakashi probably inherited his intelligence from him
-Lightning element
Whatcha think?

For shisui, none of these were stated in the manga....
we dont know how smart he is or what jutsus he had other than KA

Truth is we may never know. I don't want to shrug them off as fodder ninja but maybe that was the intention of Kishi to leave them as legends. We are meant to see them as great shinobi but ones we will never EVER see in combat or any other non-plot way.

I see your intention but merely giving them abilities we see fit would take away from their character.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

I think it's safe to say that Sakumo Hatake and Shisui Uchiha will never be shown in combat because Naruto is close to ending so let's just give them reasonable abilites.
Shisui:
-Basically Itachi but has KA instead of Amaterasu
-Shuriken and kunai mastery
-As smart as Itachi
-Great Fire Ball Jutsu
-Susano'o with no special items
-Tsukiyomi
Sakumo:
-Super skilled with using his White Chakra Sabre
-Faster than average, let's say as fast as Sasuke
-Genius because Kakashi probably inherited his intelligence from him
-Lightning element
Whatcha think?

Shisui had KA in both eyes. Danzo used it and Itachi's crow used it. And I think you need two separate eye jutsu for MS to use susanoo. It was literally said you need to unlock Amaterasu and Tsukyomi. Agree with Sakumo other than the wind nature. I wanna give him water for some reason lol

 

[MacMiller]

I think Sakumo should have tons more since he was praised for what he is. But we don't know what his abilities are soooo, eh.

 

[Tartarus]

Shishui didn't have susanno, you need amaterasu and tsukyomi for susanno

He was as smart or smarter than itachi , according to jiraya, the level of your genjutsu depends on your intelligence... which is why it's rare, and the ones who do use genjutsu are geniuses , shishui was known to be a better genjutsu user than itachi, infact known worldwide for his genjutsu.. that shows he must have been either = or > itachi in that category..

his speed, something else that was known world wide. Known as shishui of the body flicker.. To get a moniker is no simple thing , look at yellow flash, who also had a speed moniker

his other ms jutsu, idk , It Would be something relating to ninjutsu though, since ms's seem to work like 1) genjutsu, 1) ninjutsu

and at the time when itachi was about 13, it was hinted that shishui was either = him, or close behind.. but that's no small feat.. 11 year old itachi was able to dispose of sannins without mangekyou

I don't think so since each of his eyes had koto

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

I think shisui is overated just for having KA

Well genjutsu is a big deal and he does have the best one. Plus he was said to be as good as Itachi

-For Shisui, I wouldn't say he had Susanoo or Tsukynomi. For the simple fact Tsukynomi is an MS tech but Shisui had KA in both eyes, so he couldnt have Tsukynomi in one of them. Also to have Susanoo you need to have two different MS techs, he only had 1.

-For Sakumo thats all we can say I guess so good job

Thanks and yeah I thought about that, but maybe KA was his Susano'o so he would have tsukiyomi and something?

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

Shisui had KA in both eyes. Danzo used it and Itachi's crow used it. And I think you need two separate eye jutsu for MS to use susanoo. It was literally said you need to unlock Amaterasu and Tsukyomi. Agree with Sakumo other than the wind nature. I wanna give him water for some reason lol

yeah im now sure that KA was his Susano'o since it's in both eyes. And yeah he just seems like a wind and water guy lol but doubt it

 

[Owarij]

I don't think so since each of his eyes had koto

yeahh well all ms's seem to be different, i'm under the assumption that everyone gets two jutsu... tsukyomi and amaterasu you just get in one eye each, and they were special cases, ka isn't eye specific , i'm just saying he could have had another

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

yeahh well all ms's seem to be different, i'm under the assumption that everyone gets two jutsu... tsukyomi and amaterasu you just get in one eye each, and they were special cases, ka isn't eye specific , i'm just saying he could have had another

I don't think so since each of his eyes had koto

Shisui had KA in both eyes. Danzo used it and Itachi's crow used it. And I think you need two separate eye jutsu for MS to use susanoo. It was literally said you need to unlock Amaterasu and Tsukyomi. Agree with Sakumo other than the wind nature. I wanna give him water for some reason lol

I edited the OP, how is it now?

 

[ReapTermin]

I think shisui is overated just for having KA

I don't think he's overrated becasuse he could only use KA once every 10 years.

 

[yuan of cruxis]

Shisui had KA in both eyes. Danzo used it and Itachi's crow used it. And I think you need two separate eye jutsu for MS to use susanoo. It was literally said you need to unlock Amaterasu and Tsukyomi. Agree with Sakumo other than the wind nature. I wanna give him water for some reason lol

Even if you have Amaterasu and Tsukyomi it doesnt mean you will have Susanoo

They said it still would be rare to unlock it

 

[Itachi2304]

no shisui doesnt have tsukuyomi man. He has 2 koto amatsukami in both eyes. I know it sounds wierd but its true. Remember that danzo had shisui's other eye and he was also using KA. so that means that both of his eyes have the exact same ability

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

no shisui doesnt have tsukuyomi man. He has 2 koto amatsukami in both eyes. I know it sounds wierd but its true. Remember that danzo had shisui's other eye and he was also using KA. so that means that both of his eyes have the exact same ability

hmmm yeah it is weird when I think about it. I think Kishi screwed that up

 

[BONTUL]

Meh..