Shisui vs Uchiha(s)

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I feel as though not a lot of people give Uchiha, Shisui enough credit for how strong he is, or better yet how powerful his Koto Amatsukami is. In the different rounds each character is at their prime or "best." This being: Shisui having his abilities including Susanoo, Itachi before he died ( with non-disease/illness condition ), Rinnegan Sasuke, Rinnegan Obito ( without ten-tails ), and Rinnegan Madara ( without ten-tails ). When deciding on who will win within each round PLEASE CAREFULLY think about the scenario of them battling and the different outcomes of the battle before jumping to who you feel would win based off of favoritism and because "Naruto-Plot."

To add on before any "Itachi-Fanboys" come in claiming Uchiha, Itachi as the "Solo-King" and trying to dis on Shisui about his chapters in the manga and anime, as well as how he died please note this. Some people may try and say that Shisui got owned or pwned by Danzo, but let's all remember that at that given time, NO ONE knew that Danzo had the Sharingan in his right eye. Therefore using Izanagi to catch him off guard and taking his Mangekyou Sharingan is only natural to happen to someone who is caught off guard. Shisui "could have" killed Danzo if he truly wanted although because of how Konoha felt towards the Uchiha at the time, it wouldn't look too hot for him or his clan. Not to add on to Shisui killing a Konoha Elder.

Round One: Shisui vs Madara
Round Two: Shisui vs Sasuke
Round Three: Shisui vs Obito
Round Four: Shisui vs Itachi

These are the four rounds and again, PLEASE THINK CAREFULLY about each scenario or round and think about the different outcomes. Thank you for your time. ^~^
 

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Here's how it goes.

He loses to any version of Madara. ( Could probably pull something off against teen MS Madara )
Wins against any version of Obito bar JJ ( War Arc Obito has no counter to KA, and Shisui is faster than him in terms of base speed and shunshin-no-jutsu )
Wins against 3T Itachi. MS Itachi ( without KA crow ) is debatable, probably loses or ties.
Wins against any version of Sasuke bar Rinnegan. ( KA negs, even Itachi was sure it'd work on Sasuke )
 
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Here's how it goes.

He loses to any version of Madara. ( Could probably pull something off against teen MS Madara )
Wins against any version of Obito bar JJ ( War Arc Obito has no counter to KA, and Shisui is faster than him in terms of base speed and shunshin-no-jutsu )
Wins against 3T Itachi. MS Itachi ( without KA crow ) is debatable, probably loses or ties.
Wins against any version of Sasuke bar Rinnegan. ( KA negs, even Itachi was sure it'd work on Sasuke )

Could Madara get through Kotoamatsukami? Even if he used Izanagi, Shisui could probably hit him once more with it.
 

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If they are in range of KA then they lose but with full intel they can pull out win

EMS Sasuke and Madara wins easily using PS
 
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If they are in range of KA then they lose but with full intel they can pull out win

EMS Sasuke and Madara wins easily using PS

With Shisui's body flicker, he'd evade their attacks and as long as he's able to SEE them, they are within range of his Kotoamatsukami. It's hard for me to see how Sasuke can pull of a win using perfect Susanoo or other abilities, but I DO believe Madara has a fair chance.
 

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With Shisui's body flicker, he'd evade their attacks and as long as he's able to SEE them,they are within range of his Kotoamatsukami.
:lol yeah and what are his feats with Shunshin None
And how is sasuke geting in his KA range when he can use PS to fly away
It's hard for me to see how Sasuke can pull of a win using perfect Susanoo or other abilities, but I DO believe Madara has a fair chance.
Sasuke's PS which maybe smaller and weaker than madara's PS but ends the game in multiple slashes
 
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:lol yeah and what are his feats with Shunshin None
And how is sasuke geting in his KA range when he can use PS to fly away
Sasuke's PS which maybe smaller and weaker than madara's PS but ends the game in multiple slashes

I'll give Sasuke that scenario, but what if Shisui used a perfect Susanoo, what would the aspects of that battle be?
 

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Anyone who says he loses with KA is retarded. He can't lose to KA except JJ's who can probably nullify it with onmyoudon.
 
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Anyone who says he loses with KA is retarded. He can't lose to KA except JJ's who can probably nullify it with onmyoudon.

Are you referring to Sasuke or Madara? You never really stated which one only that "he" can't lose to KA...
 

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Anyone who says he loses with KA is retarded. He can't lose to KA except JJ's who can probably nullify it with onmyoudon.

Shisui vs Itachi is still debatable, because it depends on who can use their respective genjutsu faster ( Tsukuyomi and KA ).

Basically the first one to pull them off wins the match, big techniques are irrelevant ( could be used as finishers, though )

It all comes down to genjutsu, speed and intelligence.
 
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Shisui vs Itachi is still debatable, because it depends on who can use their respective genjutsu faster ( Tsukuyomi and KA ).

Basically the first one to pull them off wins the match.

Keep in mind that Tsukuyomi requires eye to eye contact while Kotoamatsukami does not.
 
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Itachi can use his finger, though.

But Shi-sushi could probably use KA faster.

No, him using his finger to put someone in a genjutsu is an ability called, "Ephemeral."


Tsukuyomi requires eye contact to be performed, trapping the target within an illusion completely under the user's control.
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