Shisui vs Pain+Madara+Kakashi

[MinatoFLASH]

OK so I saw the thread in which some people are saying Shisui cud take Minato! !!!!

Shisui barely stands a chance from what we know so far, and no I am not saying this because Minato is my fav. I am saying it because I believe that Shisui wasn't a SO6P and can't just take anyone because of KA. KA has to have its limits, like range, time, chakra, draw backs, etc. Or else Shisui was invincible? I believe Minato is a bad opponent for Shisui because he is too fast and also more powerful as he was a kage level ninja and everyone was told to run away from him. But some people say that "no with KA Shisui cud just use it and beat Minato" and i really laugh out loud. So if ur one of those ppl that think that then u shud also think Shisui cud take Madara and Nagato and Kakashi together right?

Remember, this is the current Rinnegan Madara and Pain and Kakashi.

So if KA cud take Minato then why can't it take these 3, all he wud have to do is KA on Madara who has Rinnegan and EMS and give Madara the order to kill Pain and Kakashi. Madara should be able to do this after a long hard fight and then when he does, Shisui can kill the injured and torn apart Madara. Or if u guys believe Nagato and Kakashi win then even they wud still be near death and Shisui cud do the same to them. SO according to u people who say KA makes u invincible, Shisui cud take all 3 of these ninja, am I right?



This is what I believe. People right now are overrating KA and it may be the strongest genjutsu but it does have weaknesses and Shisui was probably not a kage lvl ninja, if he was then he still wasn't on the level of Minato or 3rd Raikage or Hashi, Gaara etc.

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EDIT: I think some ppl misunderstood. All i am saying is to not overrate KA like some ppl are saying Shisui cud take kages easily because of it. I know Minato wud also get crushed against these 3, but if ppl think Shisui's ka cud take out Minato because of the power to control then why can't it do the same with these 3?? All I am saying is that it has its limits, once again all i am saying is to not overrate KA like some ppl are saying Shisui cud take kages easily because of it.

 

[Rozzy]

obviously not shuisui

 

[zombiejesus]

whats your avatar bouncing on? is... is it .... a penis?

 

[Sasuke]

Your right shisui will get murdered easily

 

[Owarij]

what is the point of this thread?


Firstly = Madara only has ems.... the madara currently in the manga is a improved madara by kabuto

shishui cant win this... even if he ka's madara to fight for him, madara alone can't handle Pain and kakashi...Ems madara was defeated by naruto and gaara...

Minato fans are such cryababys

ikr it's so sad.... does he think minato can take these guys? so whats the point in putting shshui against them? /sigh retards

 

[MinatoFLASH]

what is the point of this thread?


shishui uses kotoama on minato and makes him kill himself

shishui cant win this... even if he ka's madara to fight for him, madara alone can't handle Pain and kakashi...



ikr it's so sad.... does he think minato can take these guys? so whats the point in putting shshui against them? /sigh retards

Thats not the point

The point is that since KA wud make shisui beat Minato why not these guys. Look bro Madara cud take those 2, and if not then are u saying that Shisui cud at least beat Madara and Pain right, by telling them to fight each other??

what a fail logic u have.

KA is not invincible.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

whats your avatar bouncing on? is... is it .... a penis?

Nah bro its not sorry don't get so happy.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

Niether is minato get off his d*ck

Never said he was, but if KA cud take him then why not these guys? He can control Madara and make him kill the others right??

Damn if u say no, then how wud it work on Minato ur a Minato hater!

Feel bad for u, ur hating on an anime character.

 

[Owarij]

Thats not the point

The point is that since KA wud make shisui beat Minato why not these guys. Look bro Madara cud take those 2, and if not then are u saying that Shisui cud at least beat Madara and Pain right, by telling them to fight each other??

what a fail logic u have.

KA is not invincible.

Ok from what weve seen ka worked on uchiha itachi and made him turn good again and out of kabuto's control, that shows that ka can work on someone with mangekyou sharingan, i have no way of knowing what would happen if ka is used on someone with a superior doujutsu nor will i even try to speculate what would happen.. the most i can say is that shishui ka's kakashi and they both die... minato has no doujutsu , has no defence against mangekyou techniques , no uchiha blood nothing....i remain with my stance that ka will work against him....unless you think ka will work on him and not itachi...your reasoning is stupid, your thread is fail


we also know that danzo wanted to use ka on tobi...once again all he had at the time was mangekyou sharingan as he stated.. and thus once again there is no way of knowing what would happen if ka goes up against someone with rinnegann

 

[JirayiaRIPforever]

your not logical. minato can not take pain+madara+kakashi in a million years maybe 1v1 but i doubt he would beat madara, he might MIGHT tie, but shisui is overrated and your as bad as that uchiha fanboy that calls him lord sasuke... stop overrating anyone unless they are fire fist ace, hinata or vasto lorde ichigo jk but really stop...

 

[MinatoFLASH]

Ok from what weve seen ka worked on uchiha itachi and made him turn good again and out of kabuto's control, that shows that ka can work on someone with mangekyou sharingan, i have no way of knowing what would happen if ka is used on someone with a superior doujutsu nor will i even try to speculate what would happen.. the most i can say is that shishui ka's kakashi and they both die... minato has no doujutsu , has no defence against mangekyou techniques , no uchiha blood nothing....i remain with my stance that ka will work against him....unless you think ka will work on him and not itachi...your reasoning is stupid, your thread is fail


we also know that danzo wanted to use ka on tobi...once again all he had at the time was mangekyou sharingan as he stated.. and thus once again there is no way of knowing what would happen if ka goes up against someone with rinnegann

And what do we know about the speed of KA?? Nothing, we don't know if it takes 2 seconds or 10 seconds, so how cud it work on an instant killer like Minato?? Its just ur hatred. And ur excuse is that Madara and them wud win because it may not work on a rinnegan? Ok then what about Itachi+Sasuke+Kakashi?? Cud Shisui almost beat them or something?? No dude KA is overrated is what I am saying.

your not logical. minato can not take pain+madara+kakashi in a million years maybe 1v1 but i doubt he would beat madara, he might MIGHT tie, but shisui is overrated and your as bad as that uchiha fanboy that calls him lord sasuke... stop overrating anyone unless they are fire fist ace, hinata or vasto lorde ichigo jk but really stop...

Wow i was just about to give u rep for completely agreeing with me until i read the bold part. Where did I say that Minato cud take those 3?? Madara wud own Minato alone in my opinion and Nagato cud at least tie with him himself. I am not overrating anyone, I think u misunderstood. All i am saying is to not overrate KA like some ppl are saying Shisui cud take kages easily because of it.

 

[The Uchiha avenger]

wow some people are really misunderstanding him

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Can't shisui use one eye to take control of madara and the other nagato then sick em on kakashi??? that's a hell of a cheat

 

[Owarij]

Can't shisui use one eye to take control of madara and the other nagato then sick em on kakashi??? that's a hell of a cheat

he can, but we don't know if ka will work on rinnegan

 

[MinatoFLASH]

he can, but we don't know if ka will work on rinnegan

We also don't know if KA works in .00001 seconds but u seem sure it will.

What a Minato hater :flaw::flaw:

 

[MinatoFLASH]

Actually dude even i think that KA will kill minato.

Its if it works. Its not the unstoppable super crazy fast thing that the other guy is making it. There are limits and weaknesses, Shisui cannot take ninja's like Minato and Itachi and Gaara easily because of it.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

you do relize that FTG requires a seal.

the fastest way of using a FTG is by throwing a kunai.
THe mangekyou sharingan can be activated In a millionth of a second (as shown when itachi used susanoo against sasuke's kirin)

So in the time it takes for minato to throw a kunai he will already be in KA.
and don't say that minao can dodge genjutsu. how can minato dodge something he can't see?

and thats why i belive shi sui and iitachi can beat minato with there genjutsu's. no one else

When Itachi used susanoo he already had the MS activated, its susanoo that activates instantly. We have seen many times that activating MS cud take 3-5 secs, and for some ppl much longer as seen with Itachi and Kakashi. Now, a kunai can come at u from nearly any range within a second, even I a human (non ninja) cud throw a knife very quick, to do the ka Shisui will need to activate MS which takes at least a couple secs. Anyways, seeing a kunai come at u, first reaction wud be to block, not to sit there and blink after a 2-5 sec period. When Shisui blocks, Minato can appear instantly and rasengan him. Shisui can never even expect Minato to appear out of a kunai, and even if he does he may not be able to notice a seal that quick, once again that was why ppl were told to run away. Anyways once Minato appears Shisui is done, unexpectedly. So no Shisui cannot beat Minato along with many other powerful ninja. MS takes a while so u were wrong, so i believe Itachi will also lose since his genjutsu are short ranged. Of course there are ninja that can beat him though, Pain has a real good chance, and EMS Sasuke if he has more power than Itachi he wud most likely crush Minato and so wud Madara. Also Tobi wud def, and Naruto is pretty much there. I am not gonna overrate Minato but not overrate shisui either. U_U

 

[Sasuke]

When Itachi used susanoo he already had the MS activated, its susanoo that activates instantly. We have seen many times that activating MS cud take 3-5 secs, and for some ppl much longer as seen with Itachi and Kakashi. Now, a kunai can come at u from nearly any range within a second, even I a human (non ninja) cud throw a knife very quick, to do the ka Shisui will need to activate MS which takes at least a couple secs. Anyways, seeing a kunai come at u, first reaction wud be to block, not to sit there and blink after a 2-5 sec period. When Shisui blocks, Minato can appear instantly and rasengan him. Shisui can never even expect Minato to appear out of a kunai, and even if he does he may not be able to notice a seal that quick, once again that was why ppl were told to run away. Anyways once Minato appears Shisui is done, unexpectedly. So no Shisui cannot beat Minato along with many other powerful ninja. MS takes a while so u were wrong, so i believe Itachi will also lose since his genjutsu are short ranged. Of course there are ninja that can beat him though, Pain has a real good chance, and EMS Sasuke if he has more power than Itachi he wud most likely crush Minato and so wud Madara. Also Tobi wud def, and Naruto is pretty much there. I am not gonna overrate Minato but not overrate shisui either. U_U

Great answer.

 

[Lankeysob]

what is the point of this thread?


Firstly = Madara only has ems.... the madara currently in the manga is a improved madara by kabuto

shishui cant win this... even if he ka's madara to fight for him, madara alone can't handle Pain and kakashi...Ems madara was defeated by naruto and gaara...



ikr it's so sad.... does he think minato can take these guys? so whats the point in putting shshui against them? /sigh retards

Your wrong there, it says that Madara awoke the Rinnegan before his death.

 

[Owarij]

Your wrong there, it says that Madara awoke the Rinnegan before his death.

yes and before his death means right before he diedd

meaning for his entire life he never used it, probaly didnt even use it against the first , right before he died it appeared.. then he died