Shisui/Itachi can take down Hashirama 1v1.

[Esdez]

Kotoamatsukami GG
Tsukuyomi GG

Hashirama has no counter to powerful MS genjutsu. The only reason he was able to beat Madara is because Madara wan't specialize in Genjutsu like Itachi and Shisui. Madara would've defeat Hashirama easily if he had either Koto or Tsukuyomi.

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[Sasuke The Solo God]

lol hashi is a master sage mode sensor. doesn't even need eyesight to fight. Itachi gets solo'd.

And I believe shisui's power isn't unstoppable. A person with strong will like hashi would realize the commands in his mind is not a part of who he is and soon realize he's in genjustu and break it will sage chakra and will. Shisui gets solo'd.

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[Kakooli]

if dat is true then it just proves madara was a fodder genjutsu user........

 

[Melanin]

Ohhhh damn...

 

[SixPathsMike101]

Tsukoyomi no, get outta here, koto maybe but i doubt he'd live long enough to think to use it

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Yeah he has no answer to tsukyomi and KA. They're both also ocular genjutsu making the casting time instant too so their is no such thing as evading it too.

 

[ImmortalRegis]

lol at this

 

[Guntah]

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[Esdez]

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[itachi4real]

No.....

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Not a chance lol.

 

[Ababeel]

Tsukuyomi, no. He can easily heal its effect like Tsunade did to Sasuke and Kakashi.
Koto, there is a fairly big chance.

 

[Booker]

Lol Hashi would paste both of them at the same time in about 20 seconds

 

[shadowcb]

No.

There is no evidence to support that Tsukuyomi can only be defeated by an Uchiha user with MS. Just because an Uchiha or person makes a statement/claim about an Uchiha's power/jutsu doesn't make that statement/claim to be fact. It was stated amaterasu can't be avoid and that was proven false.

It hard to say about the Kotoamatsukami, but I doubt it would work. Hashirama was very powerful and his chakra allows people to use Kotoamatsukami more often. That proves Hashirama's chakra has an effect on Kotoamatsukami.

 

[Ababeel]

It hard to say about the Kotoamatsukami, but I doubt it would work. Hashirama was very powerful and his chakra allows people to use Kotoamatsukami more often. That proves Hashirama's chakra has an effect on Kotoamatsukami.

What does being powerful have to do with his brain?

 

[shadowcb]

What does being powerful have to do with his brain?

Because it all works together. Genjutsu controls the chakra in your brain. A powerful person would just need to how to properly use their power to defeat genjutsu.

The manga has explained to us 2 ways to defeat genjutsu. A SM user has two chakra while they are using SM. Those chakra are normal chakra and Sage chakra. A SM user can either over power the opponent's chakra or take the charka that not being controlled and inject it into the chakra that is being controlled.

 

[Ababeel]

Because it all works together. Genjutsu controls the chakra in your brain. A powerful person would just need to how to properly use their power to defeat genjutsu.

The manga has explained to us 2 ways to defeat ninjutsu. A SM user has two chakra while they are using SM. Those chakra are normal chakra and Sage chakra. A SM user can either over power the opponent's chakra or take the charka that not being controlled and inject it into the chakra that is being controlled.

No, they have nothing to do with each other.
Example: In the last, Naruto fell victim to the Genjutsu, but Sakura resisted it.

Is Sakura stronger than him, or her chakra bigger than him?

- SM user takes the natural energy, not "chakra" in itself. Had your analysis been accurate, then Kabuto wouldn't have needed to close his eyes. And he did get effected by both the Izanami AND the Genjutsu itachi did to him after that to undo the ET.

 

[shadowcb]

No, they have nothing to do with each other.
Example: In the last, Naruto fell victim to the Genjutsu, but Sakura resisted it.

Is Sakura stronger than him, or her chakra bigger than him?

- SM user takes the natural energy, not "chakra" in itself. Had your analysis been accurate, then Kabuto wouldn't have needed to close his eyes. And he did get effected by both the Izanami AND the Genjutsu itachi did to him after that to undo the ET.

No.

1 - The entire team was caught the by genjutsu in "The Last". Unlike Sakura,who used her skills to defeat it, Naruto never tried to defeat it. Instead he left his genjutus and entered Hinata's genjutsu. The genjutsu trap was designed to work that way so for Naruto to be able to leave his genjutsu and enter's another person's genjutsu proves he is skilled in genjutsu. That's very similar to what Itachi and Sasuke did to each other to defeat Kabuto's sound genjutsu.

2 - I know how SM works. The user uses Natural energy, physical energy, and spiritual energy to create sage chakra. While they are using senjutsu chakra they are not using their normal chakra. It's recovering. Pa frog stated confirmed that -

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. That means when a SM user is in SM they have access to 2 different chakras.

3 - Nobody is immune to genjutsu. I never said SM make you immune to genjutsu. Kabuto closed his eyes so he wouldn't have deal with sight genjutsu. Kabuto just learned sage mode not long before he fought Itachi. He may have mastered at SM transformation, but that doesn't automatically make him a master at SM.

 

[Guntah]

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Lol mate, pass that joint. You're clearly high if you think being a better Shinobi has anything to do with being stronger.

 

[Shruikan]

Lol mate, pass that joint. You're clearly high if you think being a better Shinobi has anything to do with being stronger.

Does he have a counter to Totsuka and Yata?