Lol it's madara's eyes he Obviously can use it
That's like saying obito with both his eyes can't use kakashi's kamui or
That shisui can't use his right eye koto but danzo can
If Sasuke hasn't tried it yet how can u say he can't perform it? But the fact remains tendou is necessary to perform the jutsu and sasuke has shown the ability to use tendou
We all know sosp can use it he pushed the moon into orbit with it
guys calm down and take it easy I didnt wanted to create shitstorm among users.
Basically requirements for shinra tensei are:
- having rinnegan and being adapted to it
- having all elemnts: yin rlease, yang release, wind, fire, earth, lightinng and water.
Only two people meet these requirements: Nagato and Hagoromo.
Madara and Sasuke lacks yang release. Obito lacks yin release for example.
I also find it ridiculous that Madara and Sasuke were not listed. However databook iv seems to have some errors as Madara is only listed as ps user.
Keep in mind that databook is made by kishi editors and it is on up to 691 chapter. Another important note is that it was rough translation not official one.
guys calm down and take it easy I didnt wanted to create shitstorm among users.
Basically requirements for shinra tensei are:
- having rinnegan and being adapted to it
- having all elemnts: yin rlease, yang release, wind, fire, earth, lightinng and water.
Only two people meet these requirements: Nagato and Hagoromo.
Madara and Sasuke lacks yang release. Obito lacks yin release for example.
I also find it ridiculous that Madara and Sasuke were not listed. However databook iv seems to have some errors as Madara is only listed as ps user.
Keep in mind that databook is made by kishi editors and it is on up to 691 chapter. Another important note is that it was rough translation not official one.
Madara can use wood on hashi's lvl and had the power of Indra and Ashura so that theory falls flat.
I agree with the databook missing things though, but tbh I think its only supposed to be info recorded in the NV so if u don't show it they don't put u down as having it.
Where in that translation does it say only Nagato can use it bud, and doesn't the data book only cover up to like 691, which is before Sasuke started showcasing the other paths.. From the rennigan he got like a day ago
That doesn't mean that madara will have all the jutsus nagato can use! a basic example is sasuke's ems. the original eye belongs to itachi, but does have yata and totsuka?? No!
Couldn't but will eventually
Also, there is no rinnegan jutsu that Nagato could pull off that Madara can't unless it just deals with a lack of know how
Rough Translation of Shinra Tensei half of page from Databook IV
Shinra-tensei (All-Nature Repulsion).
Ninjutsu, Keke-genkai, offensive, defensive, close range.
Users:Nagato
Invisible hand of God, that repels anything in creation!
Pain Tendou uses this jutsu, utilizing the generated from the users hands repulsive (gravity) force to repel targets away. The number of targets that can be repelled and their size are irrelevant . In addition by stopping the utilization of other Pain paths the amount of chakra put in the jutsu, its strength and area of effect can be greatly increased. With one strike of its power entire Konoha no sato (Konoha village) was turned to smoldering ash. But after this jutsu has been triggered there is a small five second window it can't be used again. The originating repulsion force generated by the power of all creation”shinra obiki” (something that binds all together,so likely gravitation) forces its targets to collide together with a great force and put out additional damage, combined together with the initial force (shock wave) it puts up even more damage. Only those who can manipulate all chakra transformation properties (seishitsu) legendary “Rinnegan” wielders are allowed to posses this jutsu that has all rights to be called “crystal-perfect”.
Picture: Its repulsion force is so strong that even ninjutsu and taijutsu are equally ineffective against this jutsu, in additional it can be used to prevent (cant see kanji here,so I don't know that it also can prevent).
Basically only Nagato and Hagoromo can use it, and it requres all elements
Couldn't but will eventually
Also, there is no rinnegan jutsu that Nagato could pull off that Madara can't unless it just deals with a lack of know how
I already explained that and I believe the databook stated Madara has yin and yang
That doesn't mean that madara will have all the jutsus nagato can use! a basic example is sasuke's ems. the original eye belongs to itachi, but does have yata and totsuka?? No!
So Nagato is not an Uchiha and will not gain a new version of eyes
also Yata and Totsuka r spiritual weapons.
also oro was trying to find Totsuka which means it was not part of susanoo
Couldn't but will eventually
Also, there is no rinnegan jutsu that Nagato could pull off that Madara can't unless it just deals with a lack of know how
I already explained that and I believe the databook stated Madara has yin and yang
That is you believe not us! Bro don't take it the other way, sorry but your explanation doesn't count. & by the way isn't the manga over! What sasuke can use in the future is your opinion (fanfic), which is not data-book or manga stated!
So Nagato is not an Uchiha and will not gain a new version of eyes
also Yata and Totsuka r spiritual weapons.
also oro was trying to find Totsuka which means it was not part of susanoo
where does it say?? and you did not get my point! its not being uchiha, transplating eyes doesn't mean you will have all and every jutsu of the other user!
That is you believe not us! Bro don't take it the other way, sorry but your explanation doesn't count. & by the way isn't the manga over! What sasuke can use in the future is your opinion (fanfic), which is not data-book or manga stated!
Like i said he has all 7 thanks to the rinnegan, but can he manipulate all 7?? That is the big question here!
Arguing over madara is not gonna solve anything! Since data book says only nagato can use ST so only nagato can use ST! Others can't use it!
where does it say?? and you did not get my point! its not being uchiha, transplating eyes doesn't mean you will have all and every jutsu of the other user!
bcos those are thanks to the bijuu chakra he is using!
Like I said movie Lol
Madara has wood=earth and water
Fire
Wind
Storm=water and lightning right??
As well as yin and yang :| so how can't he use all elements again?
EMS works by the receiver using their brother's eyes as a means to handle their own original power. However Nagato's eyes were just given by madara. They didn't go through any change like EMS and any jutsu Nagato had so should Madara.
If u wanna hide behind the databook then do it all u want I don't mind, but logic prevails Lol
Like I said movie Lol
Madara has wood=earth and water
Fire
Wind
Storm=water and lightning right??
As well as yin and yang :| so how can't he use all elements again?
EMS works by the receiver using their brother's eyes as a means to handle their own original power. However Nagato's eyes were just given by madara. They didn't go through any change like EMS and any jutsu Nagato had so should Madara.
If u wanna hide behind the databook then do it all u want I don't mind, but logic prevails Lol
Yes it can but the force of it can be manipulated from weak to very powerfull. Besides it was only tanked by Kyuubi six tails Naruto v2, he also used Tailed beast roar which is unique ability of Kyuubi and who knows if it contain something special
True. But since both jutsu are the same and only differing in scale, it means it is still possible to tank and deflect the force back, provided one has the power to do so
Lol it's madara's eyes he Obviously can use it
That's like saying obito with both his eyes can't use kakashi's kamui or
That shisui can't use his right eye koto but danzo can
If Sasuke hasn't tried it yet how can u say he can't perform it? But the fact remains tendou is necessary to perform the jutsu and sasuke has shown the ability to use tendou
We all know sosp can use it he pushed the moon into orbit with it
Madara can use wood on hashi's lvl and had the power of Indra and Ashura so that theory falls flat.
I agree with the databook missing things though, but tbh I think its only supposed to be info recorded in the NV so if u don't show it they don't put u down as having it.
Couldn't but will eventually
Also, there is no rinnegan jutsu that Nagato could pull off that Madara can't unless it just deals with a lack of know how
I already explained that and I believe the databook stated Madara has yin and yang
