Shino Vs Sakura

[NarutoSamaKama]

Sakuras fighting style does not fit shino, he breaking ground and all that, if one bug slips in her skin its over. They would eat that stored chakra

 

[Icelerate]

Don't have much time here but... Smashing the ground =/= slicing a forest.

The end result is the same as Shino is going to get killed by the logs that fall on top of him much like what happened to Tayuya. I already went in depth in my counter to Draegod. You might want to take a look at that.

It isn't going to take Shino longer to swarm his bugs around Sakura then she can summon Katsuya.

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Shino starting preparing his bugs back at the end of

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and then it wasn't until

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that Tobi finally got trapped by the bugs. In retrospect, Sakura only took two panels to summon Katsuyu

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Moreover, Sakura doesn't need to summon Katsuyu as the shockwave from her punch, which sent Juubi clones flying, will send Shino's bugs flying as well. Not only that, but Sakura's sleep gas bombs will put them to sleep. Enough of that, Sakura can instantly end the fight before it even begins like I already stated.

Since the bugs will be

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Sakura, it wouldn't be a good idea for Katsuya to spew out her acid, as it would risk hitting Sakura as well. Furthermore, Kakashi himself said "Avoiding all those bugs is simply impossible" No matter where Sakura runs, the bugs will

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until they suck her dry of chakra.

True, Sakura can't run away from the bugs, but she does have means to defeat them. Furthermore, if Sakura gets surrounded, Katsuyu can spit acid in the outer area of the encirclement while Sakura can throw sleep gas bombs in the other side of the encirclement. This will allow Sakura to find and opening and lift the siege.

Not really. Tree's are deeply rooted into the ground. Especially these huge ass ones in then we see in this manga

Shino's only problem would be her slug.

High diff not low diff.
Her only method of getting away from the bugs is hiding in the slug.

If pre time-skip (PTS) non gated Rock Lee can casually

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, than current Sakura with her Yin seal can to. Enough of this nonsense.

 

[The Ultimate Unknown]

Sakura low diff

 

[Forbidden Technique]

The end result is the same as Shino is going to get killed by the logs that fall on top of him much like what happened to Tayuya. I already went in depth in my counter to Draegod. You might want to take a look at that.

Not really but if you had read my post you know that the end result will be the same.

1. Sakura punches the ground.
2. Debris from the ground and tree trunks shoot up in the sky.
3. Debris and tree trunks fall onto Shino, crushing him and his bugs.

This is what Temari did to Tayuya:

1. Temari summons Kamatari to initiate Kiri kiri mae.
2. Kiri Kiri mae slices the trees sending tree logs from the upper half tumbling downwards.
3. The tree logs crush Tayuya and kill her instantly even though she had CS2 durability which allowed her to tank Shikamaru's shadow strangle and Temari's weaker wind attack.

Okay, now that I have time to make a much more detailed rebuttal.

I will say this again. Smashing the ground =/= slicing a forest.

When Sakura punched the ground nothing shot up but gravel, debris, small boulders, and the juubi clones. None of which are tree sized. The trees would be deeply rooted into the large piece of earth that she only was able to split but to big to send in the air[

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] Thus no tree's would be flying around. To get a visual of what i'm trying to explain to you, it would look more or less like

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.

It's different from the scenario when Temari sliced the entire forest, because the wind cut every tree in it's path and sent to straight at Tayuya, while when Sakura punches the ground, rocks and debri will be flying up...then down. Not aimed Shino at all.

Shino starting preparing his bugs back at the end of

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and then it wasn't until

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that Tobi finally got trapped by the bugs. In retrospect, Sakura only took two panels to summon Katsuyu

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Moreover, Sakura doesn't need to summon Katsuyu as the shockwave from her punch, which sent Juubi clones flying, will send Shino's bugs flying as well. Not only that, but Sakura's sleep gas bombs will put them to sleep. Enough of that, Sakura can instantly end the fight before it even begins like I already stated.

I didn't say when Shinos bugs trapped Tobi. I said when it swarmed him, which only took until page 3 of chapter 395.

I don't see what sending Shino's bugs "flying" accomplishes, as they are already flying. Using sleep gas bombs won't work as Sakura must be

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from the gas. If she decides to use it while the bugs are swarming her, she will only knock herself out with the bugs. If your implying she throws the sleep gas bombs before Shinos bugs swarm her, then Shino, who's fighting style is to analyze the opponent from a distance, will simply command the bugs to fly above the gas before the bombs hit the floor and activate.

True, Sakura can't run away from the bugs, but she does have means to defeat them. Furthermore, if Sakura gets surrounded, Katsuyu can spit acid in the outer area of the encirclement while Sakura can throw sleep gas bombs in the other side of the encirclement. This will allow Sakura to find and opening and lift the siege.

This is all under the assumption that Shino's bugs remain in a giant swarm position, which doesn't make much sense for Shino to do. Soon as they swarm around Sakura, Shino can use

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, Thus rendering your little tactic useless as it would only harm Sakura.

The shockwave from Sakura's punch sent many Juubi clones flying and most of them died. Shino's bugs get sent flying away and die from the shockwave.

Not necessarily. Shino's bugs have shown to withstand a tremendous blowing force. They

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to the point where the only way the giant air blast could go was out his arm, thus completely blowing it off of his body. Not to mention, the bugs crawled out his wind hole completely unscathed [[URL="http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/069/20]x[/URL]] Exactly how much of a blowing force were Shino's bug able to withstand? [

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Your greatly overlooking Shino's fighting style. He is very smart and analyzes his opponent while keeping his distance and attacking from a far, much like Kidomaru. Only difference, Shino fights

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from the start. While Sakura and Katsuyu are busy fending off the giant swarm in front of them, Shino can send a platoon of bugs to surprise attack them from behind [

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] [

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] These can very well be the parasitic bugs that Shino used to eat the Juubi clones from the inside. Only this time, they will be devouring Katsuyu. Furthermore, Shino likes to use clone feints [

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] to get out of sticky situations and counter attack [

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]. As I mentioned previously, which you found so ridiculous and I have no clue why, Shino can combined his parasitic bugs within the bug clone, which will disperse all over Sakura if she comes in contact with it. Or Shino can simply drop some parasitic bugs on Sakura as he did to Kankuro

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[Cherryblossomblooms]

Sakura will win!

 

[Goddess Leone]

Shinto does this

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While his bugs rape her in all of her holes.

 

[Icelerate]

Okay, now that I have time to make a much more detailed rebuttal.

I will say this again. Smashing the ground =/= slicing a forest.

When Sakura punched the ground nothing shot up but gravel, debris, small boulders, and the juubi clones. None of which are tree sized. The trees would be deeply rooted into the large piece of earth that she only was able to split but to big to send in the air[

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] Thus no tree's would be flying around. To get a visual of what i'm trying to explain to you, it would look more or less like

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.

It's different from the scenario when Temari sliced the entire forest, because the wind cut every tree in it's path and sent to straight at Tayuya, while when Sakura punches the ground, rocks and debri will be flying up...then down. Not aimed Shino at all.

Now that I think about it, that strategy can't be used by Sakura under this circumstance. I agree with you on this point. My argument here was flawed. Although it would still make a minor clearing giving Sakura more space to navigate and it will ensure she will a greater line of sight.

Hmm if Sakura wins, it will be with mid-high difficulty.

I didn't say when Shinos bugs trapped Tobi. I said when it swarmed him, which only took until page 3 of chapter 395.

I don't see what sending Shino's bugs "flying" accomplishes, as they are already flying. Using sleep gas bombs won't work as Sakura must be

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from the gas. If she decides to use it while the bugs are swarming her, she will only knock herself out with the bugs. If your implying she throws the sleep gas bombs before Shinos bugs swarm her, then Shino, who's fighting style is to analyze the opponent from a distance, will simply command the bugs to fly above the gas before the bombs hit the floor and activate.

It wasn't until page 5 until Tobi was actually overwhelmed but my point has been proved, it takes longer for Shino to send his bugs than for Sakura to summon Katsuyu. In that amount of time, Katsuyu spits acid, and melts Shino and his bugs. Sakura doesn't need to breathe but the bugs have no reason not to. Also, Sakura can simply put them to sleep before the bugs actually come close to her. How exactly does Shino even know that Sakura possesses sleep gas bombs? He doesn't so he will be

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just like he was against Kankuro. If Shino almost got finished

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, what makes you think he'll actually have the time to command his bugs to move out of the way? What makes you think the bugs will be fast enough to respond to Shino's order? First Shino has to notice that what Sakura threw is a sleep gas bomb. Secondly he'll have to send a signal to the bugs to fly away. Thirdly, those bugs will have to react to Shino's signal and fly away. That isn't happening.

Sending the bugs flying away means that no matter how close the bugs get to swarming her, they'll never be able to because they'll be forced to fly out of the way from the immense shockwave.

This is all under the assumption that Shino's bugs remain in a giant swarm position, which doesn't make much sense for Shino to do. Soon as they swarm around Sakura, Shino can use

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, Thus rendering your little tactic useless as it would only harm Sakura.

How does he intend to send the bugs at Sakura when Sakura can take them out with Katsuyu acid or gas bombs before that happens? As I mentioned, Shino first has to encircle his opponent which isn't happening as I already explained that Sakura has the means to break out of the encirclement before the bugs get too close. Moreover, how do Shino's bugs close in on Sakura when she can send them flying away by punching the ground?

Not necessarily. Shino's bugs have shown to withstand a tremendous blowing force. They

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to the point where the only way the giant air blast could go was out his arm, thus completely blowing it off of his body. Not to mention, the bugs crawled out his wind hole completely unscathed

Well I was a bit iffy on Sakura being able to kill the bugs with the shockwave of her punch. I never suggested they would take out all the bugs, just a few. Nevertheless, Shino's bugs will still be damaged considering that the shockwave created by Sakura's punch is clearly much more powerful than Zaku's. I hope we agree on this.

Your greatly overlooking Shino's fighting style. He is very smart and analyzes his opponent while keeping his distance and attacking from a far, much like Kidomaru. Only difference, Shino fights

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from the start. While Sakura and Katsuyu are busy fending off the giant swarm in front of them, Shino can send a platoon of bugs to surprise attack them from behind [

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] [

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] These can very well be the parasitic bugs that Shino used to eat the Juubi clones from the inside. Only this time, they will be devouring Katsuyu. Furthermore, Shino likes to use clone feints [

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]-[

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] to get out of sticky situations and counter attack [

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]. As I mentioned previously, which you found so ridiculous and I have no clue why, Shino can combined his parasitic bugs within the bug clone, which will disperse all over Sakura if she comes in contact with it. Or Shino can simply drop some parasitic bugs on Sakura as he did to Kankuro

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Katsuyu can split a few clones to watch Sakura's back so Shino, nor his bugs, are blind siding them.*

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he used requires Shino to go close to his target and tag them with the bug. Hence why the Naruto Wiki classifies that move as a close range one. It can't be used within a clone or else that particular bug will devour all the other bugs within the clone. These

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are a rare breed which are very difficult to handle. Thus Shino can't send them off within his swarm of bugs.

The only way of Shino taking down Katsuyu is with a few Kadaichu but he'll have to get very close to Katsuyu. He'll get melted before this even happens.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Now that I think about it, that strategy can't be used by Sakura under this circumstance. I agree with you on this point. My argument here was flawed. Although it would still make a minor clearing giving Sakura more space to navigate and it will ensure she will a greater line of sight.

Hmm if Sakura wins, it will be with mid-high difficulty.

Well, that's one step forward.

It wasn't until page 5 until Tobi was actually overwhelmed but my point has been proved, it takes longer for Shino to send his bugs than for Sakura to summon Katsuyu. In that amount of time, Katsuyu spits acid, and melts Shino and his bugs. Sakura doesn't need to breathe but the bugs have no reason not to. Also, Sakura can simply put them to sleep before the bugs actually come close to her. How exactly does Shino even know that Sakura possesses sleep gas bombs? He doesn't so he will be

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just like he was against Kankuro. If Shino almost got finished

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, what makes you think he'll actually have the time to command his bugs to move out of the way? What makes you think the bugs will be fast enough to respond to Shino's order? First Shino has to notice that what Sakura threw is a sleep gas bomb. Secondly he'll have to send a signal to the bugs to fly away. Thirdly, those bugs will have to react to Shino's signal and fly away. That isn't happening.

Sending the bugs flying away means that no matter how close the bugs get to swarming her, they'll never be able to because they'll be forced to fly out of the way from the immense shockwave.

No you didn't prove your point. The underline and the bold don't take the same amount of time to accomplish, as the underline is a whole extra step in the process. While I will grant you that the underline (the amount of time it took for Shinos bugs to reach Tobi, THEN to use Insect Globe) would take longer then for Sakura to just summon Katsuyu, that was never my point. My point was it isn't going to take Sakura longer to summon Katsuyu then it will for Shinos bugs to reach Sakura and disperse [

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] ...Not what took place on page 5. Also, it seems to me, you just assume that Katsuyu is going to spit acid simultaneous to when she gets summoned. That's not true. When a summoning creature is summoned, they don't exactly know what's going on. They at least need a few seconds to analyze the situation or wait until the summoner fills them in.

Doesn't work like that. Sai knew fully well that Sakura had sleep bombs [

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] and he even saw it

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, yet he fell asleep. If by simply holding your breath would save you from the gas, there would of been no way Sai would of been caught. Reason why Sakura hid behind a tree, away from the fumes, else there would be no reason for her to do so. Furthermore, Shino knew it was a poison gas bomb and he knew not to inhale it, yet it somehow got in his system [

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If Sakura would to throw her sleep bombs at Shino's bugs, it will have to be from quite a range away, as she would be liable to get caught also. This means that Shino will more then likely see it coming and have a few seconds to react. And wow, you made it seem a whole lot more complicated then it really is. Shino commanded his bugs to fly,

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He commanded his bugs to spread, they

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He commanded his bugs to swarm, they swarmed [

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]-[

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] They react to his commands almost simultaneous. Also, before I move on, I don't find it far-fetched to say that Shino's bugs can catch the sleep bombs before it hits the floor, like so [

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How does he intend to send the bugs at Sakura when Sakura can take them out with Katsuyu acid or gas bombs before that happens? As I mentioned, Shino first has to encircle his opponent which isn't happening as I already explained that Sakura has the means to break out of the encirclement before the bugs get too close. Moreover, how do Shino's bugs close in on Sakura when she can send them flying away by punching the ground?

Already established how Shino accomplishes most of this. As for the underline, she can go ahead and keep on exhausting her chakra and risking herself with injury from falling rocks by doing so. I already established how Shino's bugs can survive the shock waves. I seriously doubt she has the chakra capacity to create such massive destructive punches numerous amounts of times, anyways.

Well I was a bit iffy on Sakura being able to kill the bugs with the shockwave of her punch. I never suggested they would take out all the bugs, just a few. Nevertheless, Shino's bugs will still be damaged considering that the shockwave created by Sakura's punch is clearly much more powerful than Zaku's. I hope we agree on this.

We can agree on the shock waves killing and injuring a few of his bugs, but they at least have a nice durability feat.

Katsuyu can split a few clones to watch Sakura's back so Shino, nor his bugs, are blind siding them.*

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he used requires Shino to go close to his target and tag them with the bug. Hence why the Naruto Wiki classifies that move as a close range one. It can't be used within a clone or else that particular bug will devour all the other bugs within the clone. These

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are a rare breed which are very difficult to handle. Thus Shino can't send them off within his swarm of bugs.

The only way of Shino taking down Katsuyu is with a few Kadaichu but he'll have to get very close to Katsuyu. He'll get melted before this even happens.

Fair point, but is there anything to even suggest Katsuyu would do so?

Why would the parasitic bug devour all he other bugs within a clone, when the two bugs share the same home. That being within Shino. I don't see where you're getting that from. The Kadaichu doesn't seem to fly, that would just be too OP, so it can't be sent with a swarm of Kikaichu's anyways. Even though it might be plausible that his Kikaichu's can cary the Kadaichus by flight. But anyways, what I meant is, Shino can send the parasitic bug off on the ground and craw into Katsuyu from behind like so [

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That is what the bugs swarming Sakura and Katsuyu are for. Shino uses them as a diversion as he explains

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and run up on Katsuyu from behind and place the bug if he has too.

 

[Icelerate]

No you didn't prove your point. The underline and the bold don't take the same amount of time to accomplish, as the underline is a whole extra step in the process. While I will grant you that the underline (the amount of time it took for Shinos bugs to reach Tobi, THEN to use Insect Globe) would take longer then for Sakura to just summon Katsuyu, that was never my point. My point was it isn't going to take Sakura longer to summon Katsuyu then it will for Shinos bugs to reach Sakura and disperse [

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] ...Not what took place on page 5. Also, it seems to me, you just assume that Katsuyu is going to spit acid simultaneous to when she gets summoned. That's not true. When a summoning creature is summoned, they don't exactly know what's going on. They at least need a few seconds to analyze the situation or wait until the summoner fills them in.

I already showed you that it takes two panels for Sakura to summon and you didn't include a starting distance so nor you or I can prove whether Shino's bugs can travel before she can summon.

Doesn't work like that. Sai knew fully well that Sakura had sleep bombs [

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] and he even saw it

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, yet he fell asleep. If by simply holding your breath would save you from the gas, there would of been no way Sai would of been caught. Reason why Sakura hid behind a tree, away from the fumes, else there would be no reason for her to do so. Furthermore, Shino knew it was a poison gas bomb and he knew not to inhale it, yet it somehow got in his system [

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Well Sai must have inhaled it as he was caught by surprise and was in a state of shock so he couldn't hold his breath. Sakura hid behind a tree to be on the safe side. But even still, it gives her a nice speed feat because one page before, she was right beside Lee. So she can shunshin away from the bugs and then put them to sleep. The poison must have got into Shino because he probably did inhale some of it. Hence the almost, he was unsure whether he did or didn't but since he didn't feel the effects immediately, he must have concluded he didn't even though he did.

If Sakura would to throw her sleep bombs at Shino's bugs, it will have to be from quite a range away, as she would be liable to get caught also. This means that Shino will more then likely see it coming and have a few seconds to react. And wow, you made it seem a whole lot more complicated then it really is. Shino commanded his bugs to fly,

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He commanded his bugs to spread, they

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He commanded his bugs to swarm, they swarmed [

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]-[

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] They react to his commands almost simultaneous. Also, before I move on, I don't find it far-fetched to say that Shino's bugs can catch the sleep bombs before it hits the floor, like so [

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Well Shino still has to notice the threat first and he barely saw Kankuro's poison gas bomb coming. Sai barely saw Sakura's yet you think Shino can tell his bugs to avoid it in time.

Already established how Shino accomplishes most of this. As for the underline, she can go ahead and keep on exhausting her chakra and risking herself with injury from falling rocks by doing so. I already established how Shino's bugs can survive the shock waves. I seriously doubt she has the chakra capacity to create such massive destructive punches numerous amounts of times, anyways.

Well Sakura has already

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in the war, similar to Tsunade. It's being portrayed that Sakura keeps a massive amount of chakra in her Yin seal as it took her three years to accumulate. I doubt she'll run out of chakra until like 100 punches or so. Since her forehead is bigger than Tsunade's, her capacity to store chakra should be greater than Tsuande's as well. Healing takes a lot more chakra than chakra enhanced punches, I hope we agree on this. Not only that, but Sakura doesn't need to store chakra in her forehead to look younger.

Fair point, but is there anything to even suggest Katsuyu would do so?

Why would the parasitic bug devour all he other bugs within a clone, when the two bugs share the same home. That being within Shino. I don't see where you're getting that from. The Kadaichu doesn't seem to fly, that would just be too OP, so it can't be sent with a swarm of Kikaichu's anyways. Even though it might be plausible that his Kikaichu's can cary the Kadaichus by flight. But anyways, what I meant is, Shino can send the parasitic bug off on the ground and craw into Katsuyu from behind like so [

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That is what the bugs swarming Sakura and Katsuyu are for. Shino uses them as a diversion as he explains

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and run up on Katsuyu from behind and place the bug if he has too.

Well I need more information on the Kadaichu before I reach a final verdict. The thing is, Kishi doesn't even provide proper explanations any more. I doubt the Kadaichu live inside Shino like the other bugs do. It's being portrayed that these bugs live in very different conditions so I believe they live in isolation or else they'll simply hog all the food for themselves and the little bugs will die.

Why exactly won't Katsuyu split a few clones to guard their blind sides? It makes perfect sense as Sakura knows Shino's fighting style and can order Katsuyu to do so. Once that is done, Shino's efforts of getting behind Katsuyu will diminish. Unlike Kankuro, Katsuyu and Sakura have multiple eyes and share a connection. Kankuro was fixated on one direction because of his need to focus on his puppets and their assault. He didn't have the means to watch his back since at that time, he only had one puppet in his arsenal.

 

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I already showed you that it takes two panels for Sakura to summon and you didn't include a starting distance so nor you or I can prove whether Shino's bugs can travel before she can summon.

Yeah, I forgot to include starting distance, because I didn't know what would be fair for both characters. But anyways, it's really not IC for someone to immediately begin a match with a summon.

Well Sai must have inhaled it as he was caught by surprise and was in a state of shock so he couldn't hold his breath. Sakura hid behind a tree to be on the safe side. But even still, it gives her a nice speed feat because one page before, she was right beside Lee. So she can shunshin away from the bugs and then put them to sleep. The poison must have got into Shino because he probably did inhale some of it. Hence the almost, he was unsure whether he did or didn't but since he didn't feel the effects immediately, he must have concluded he didn't even though he did.

Not going to argue on Shino and Sai, as there is nothing neither of us can prove or disprove. It's just going to be my word against yours.

@ Bold - Sakura shunshin'ing away won't work. I'll let Shino

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why.

Well Shino still has to notice the threat first and he barely saw Kankuro's poison gas bomb coming. Sai barely saw Sakura's yet you think Shino can tell his bugs to avoid it in time.

Shino still has to notice the threat? How would he not? His opponent is throwing something at him and it should be common knowledge that it would be some form of gas bomb by the looks of it, as Sai was easily able to distinguish what it was. He barely saw Kankuros poison gas bomb coming because it was from point blank range, and he had no time react or have his bugs to defend him. Sai barely saw Sakura's because he had Lee, Kiba, and Akamaru charging at him.

Well I need more information on the Kadaichu before I reach a final verdict. The thing is, Kishi doesn't even provide proper explanations any more. I doubt the Kadaichu live inside Shino like the other bugs do. It's being portrayed that these bugs live in very different conditions so I believe they live in isolation or else they'll simply hog all the food for themselves and the little bugs will die.

You can doubt whatever you want, but according to the manga, the Kadaichu live inside Shino. It is said

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, that the Abarume clan members give they're body to the insects to use as a nest. While these bugs are living within they're hosts, they feed on the hosts chakra. Then Shino explains

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, if you give the Kadaichu the wrong amount of chakra, they would eat through flesh and grow in size. This obviously implies the Kadaichu live within Shino because; One, The bugs won't obey Shino unless they were fed his chakra. And two, Shino has already stated that he has to feed them the right amount of chakra so they don't eat through his flesh.

The Kidaichu can't hog all the chakra for themselves, else they'd eat through Shino. So obviously Shino is in control of the amount his bugs can consume, else they'd eat all his chakra, causing him to die one way or another.

Why exactly won't Katsuyu split a few clones to guard their blind sides? It makes perfect sense as Sakura knows Shino's fighting style and can order Katsuyu to do so. Once that is done, Shino's efforts of getting behind Katsuyu will diminish. Unlike Kankuro, Katsuyu and Sakura have multiple eyes and share a connection. Kankuro was fixated on one direction because of his need to focus on his puppets and their assault. He didn't have the means to watch his back since at that time, he only had one puppet in his arsenal.

Sakura has only seen Shino fight twice. That being against against Zaku and Tobi. His fight against Zaku, Shino did manage to get his bugs behind Zaku in a wide open area, but he never used a frontal attack as means of a distraction like he did while fighting Kankuro. And his little skirmish with Tobi, he only used a frontal attack which covered a wide area. Even if Sakura orders Katsuyu to watch her back, there is still the possibility for Shino to counterattack from literally all directions, including they're sides and even up above. Furthermore, don't you think it will be a little hard to spot a small platoon of insects while being completely enveloped in bugs? I mean

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is pretty blinding.

 

[Shinozgr8]

parasitic insects > katsuyu...

insects tank/block acid

insects tank/block sleeping bombs

insects can FLY

bug clones > sakura's taijutsu

bug clone w/ i hit ko insect vs a punch from sakura...touch wins

swarm of insects > sakura's evasion

i mean sakura's good and all but just not good enough..or well equipped to beat shino..hell no one is hardly equipped to beat him.

too bad kishi didnt give shino the hailstorm technique officially...or his attacks would be on gaara's level

 

[Shinozgr8]

Now that I think about it, that strategy can't be used by Sakura under this circumstance. I agree with you on this point. My argument here was flawed. Although it would still make a minor clearing giving Sakura more space to navigate and it will ensure she will a greater line of sight.

Hmm if Sakura wins, it will be with mid-high difficulty.


It wasn't until page 5 until Tobi was actually overwhelmed but my point has been proved, it takes longer for Shino to send his bugs than for Sakura to summon Katsuyu. In that amount of time, Katsuyu spits acid, and melts Shino and his bugs. Sakura doesn't need to breathe but the bugs have no reason not to. Also, Sakura can simply put them to sleep before the bugs actually come close to her. How exactly does Shino even know that Sakura possesses sleep gas bombs? He doesn't so he will be

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just like he was against Kankuro. If Shino almost got finished

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, what makes you think he'll actually have the time to command his bugs to move out of the way? What makes you think the bugs will be fast enough to respond to Shino's order? First Shino has to notice that what Sakura threw is a sleep gas bomb. Secondly he'll have to send a signal to the bugs to fly away. Thirdly, those bugs will have to react to Shino's signal and fly away. That isn't happening.

Sending the bugs flying away means that no matter how close the bugs get to swarming her, they'll never be able to because they'll be forced to fly out of the way from the immense shockwave.


How does he intend to send the bugs at Sakura when Sakura can take them out with Katsuyu acid or gas bombs before that happens? As I mentioned, Shino first has to encircle his opponent which isn't happening as I already explained that Sakura has the means to break out of the encirclement before the bugs get too close. Moreover, how do Shino's bugs close in on Sakura when she can send them flying away by punching the ground?


Well I was a bit iffy on Sakura being able to kill the bugs with the shockwave of her punch. I never suggested they would take out all the bugs, just a few. Nevertheless, Shino's bugs will still be damaged considering that the shockwave created by Sakura's punch is clearly much more powerful than Zaku's. I hope we agree on this.

Katsuyu can split a few clones to watch Sakura's back so Shino, nor his bugs, are blind siding them.*

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he used requires Shino to go close to his target and tag them with the bug. Hence why the Naruto Wiki classifies that move as a close range one. It can't be used within a clone or else that particular bug will devour all the other bugs within the clone. These

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are a rare breed which are very difficult to handle. Thus Shino can't send them off within his swarm of bugs.

The only way of Shino taking down Katsuyu is with a few Kadaichu but he'll have to get very close to Katsuyu. He'll get melted before this even happens.

uhmmm..go back and reread the manga where (vs zaku) shino tanked an air slicer to the face, and simultaneously sent his insects to swarm from behind, unbeknownst to zaku AND the entire audience until it was too late...count how many panels it took, then get back with me

 

[FemmeFatale]

Katsuyu eats Shino, Threat closed.
or Acid Slimes him

 

[FemmeFatale]

Worst Sakura fan i have ever encountered.

There is no point of arguing Sakura clearly wins, SLugs> bugs. Sakura> Shino. She is faster, stronger, smarter (they have the same stat but she is craftier, from what is shown). And Sakura is a smart girl, there is very little that she doesn't have intel on, and if she doesn't she will find out.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

There is no point of arguing Sakura clearly wins, SLugs> bugs. Sakura> Shino. She is faster, stronger, smarter (they have the same stat but she is craftier, from what is shown)

I laughed really hard at the bold parts. From what we've seen, Shino has shown more intelligence (battle wise) and his speed is just generally a lot faster than sakura's. I don't argue with the fact that she's stronger based on physical strength, but that doesn't really matter. Shino has displayed substantial impressiveness with his bugs. Where as Sakura... well apart from doing the old jump and punch, she hasn't shown anything else. Her summoning is quiet good, the slug queen as it can pose a threat, but that's the slug, not her. The spar will probably be over before she gets to summon her.

 

[Fecal Matter]

There is no point of arguing Sakura clearly wins, SLugs> bugs. Sakura> Shino. She is faster, stronger, smarter (they have the same stat but she is craftier, from what is shown). And Sakura is a smart girl, there is very little that she doesn't have intel on, and if she doesn't she will find out.

Just leave the Sakura debating to Icelerate please.At least he can post logical and interesting arguments.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Katsuyu eats Shino, Threat closed.
or Acid Slimes him

Take a look here boo

Spoiler

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[Zexion~]

Eh it should be obvious that Shino's bugs can't actually eat people ...

But anyways Shino wins, unless Sakura can restore chakra

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Sakura wins
Shino cannot dodge Katsuyu acid blitz neither by feats nor according to the fodderbook stats
also Sakura is faster and a direct hit should be able to render Shino unable to fight

clones are useless since their durability is limited so they will be one-shotted low diff like those 30 Juubi clones
his giant bug one-shot blitzing method could be a problem if Sakura hadn't been at least a tier faster by both feats and the fodderbook stats

Shino gets shat on

 

[FemmeFatale]

I laughed really hard at the bold parts. From what we've seen, Shino has shown more intelligence (battle wise) and his speed is just generally a lot faster than sakura's. I don't argue with the fact that she's stronger based on physical strength, but that doesn't really matter. Shino has displayed substantial impressiveness with his bugs. Where as Sakura... well apart from doing the old jump and punch, she hasn't shown anything else. Her summoning is quiet good, the slug queen as it can pose a threat, but that's the slug, not her. The spar will probably be over before she gets to summon her.

But is the slug not an extenstion of her power, is it not the same as a puppetmaster with his/her puppet. Does katsuyu not thrive of of Sakura/Tsunade's chakra? Katsuyu solo's shino, Sakura can beat him too. She is pretty fast, just not insanely fast, she can easily avoid attacks too thanks to Tsnade, and she avoide iron sand with Chiyo, which the bugs generally move like, and beside's she is a medic, medics carries various items, she can easily use one of those items to either poision the bugs, put them to sleep etc. then go for the kill. while Katsuyu deals with cleaning up the bugs. And dont say she needs prep to do that because her bag should be always set up with medical gear inside of it, she is an medic after all