Shino vs Hidan

Who Wins

  • Shino

    Votes: 13 37.1%
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    Votes: 22 62.9%

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but how will hidan get the bugs off of him? he hasno type of jutsu to repel the swarm of bugs. bugs suck away chakra. chakra is the body's main nutrition, you could say. no chakra = no stamina. no chakra = no nutrition. Hidan can die if he starves to death, and with no stamina, he can't get up and fight. so shino would win, technically over the course of maybe weeks lol without kakuzu to help him, he's toast.
and again, he was only in akatsuki for his ability to capture tailed beasts. his 'immortality' is the only thing that considers him 's rank'
You know that Hidan is Faster then Shino right?




he can avoid the swam... some parts I agree... like chakra is the body's main nutrition, you could say. no chakra = no stamina. no chakra = no nutrition. Hidan can die if he starves to death, and with no stamina, he can't get up and fight. very logic but hidan can still make moves before the bugs hit him right? shino has no jutsu that can hold him trapped... and hes not akatuski for his abillity... he became an akatsuki because he was a missing S-class ninja and imortality my friend... is like the best thing ever... imagine Naruto combined with hidan o_O and they took a found of him... Hes not useless but I agree that almost everyone in akatsuki is stronger then him exept Zetsu or Maybe konan but hes still stronger then shino.

Read my other posts if you wanna know why.
 
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Ok yes I'm saying that the 12 guardians are are a good enough argument because even though it represents something cool or whatever, we've only ever seen Asuma be...maybe a smidgen better than fodder. Yes we only saw the 3rd fight once but even though he lost he displayed a lot of talent and strength in that fight and nearly had a victory. What did Asuma do? He relied on a Konoha 11...

Being immortal doesn't make you strong, it makes you immortal. And while he is strong, it doesn't matter all that much because he's stupid. Yes Naruto and Bee are perceived to be stupid, but we've seen that isn't true. Naruto especially displays intelligence during battle, Hidan doesn't. He just relies on that 1 jutsu which has so many what if factors. He needs the right blood, he needs to set up the ritual, he needs to be in the circle. Hidan is useful to have on your team but by himself he really isn't all that.

My fangirling has nothing to do with this. Hidan isn't impossible to beat. All someone really needs to be smarter than him. We don't know a whole lot about him, but from the way he behaves and his choices, an opponent doesn't have to be too smart to figure him out. Also I don't think Shino could beat Zetsu.

And at least I can watch the series with some maturity. You're getting all worked up over cartoon and letting it effect the way that you treat people. People can enjoy and what whatever they want, but being nasty to other people over cartoons...
 

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Ok yes I'm saying that the 12 guardians are are a good enough argument because even though it represents something cool or whatever, we've only ever seen Asuma be...maybe a smidgen better than fodder. Yes we only saw the 3rd fight once but even though he lost he displayed a lot of talent and strength in that fight and nearly had a victory. What did Asuma do? He relied on a Konoha 11...

Being immortal doesn't make you strong, it makes you immortal. And while he is strong, it doesn't matter all that much because he's stupid. Yes Naruto and Bee are perceived to be stupid, but we've seen that isn't true. Naruto especially displays intelligence during battle, Hidan doesn't. He just relies on that 1 jutsu which has so many what if factors. He needs the right blood, he needs to set up the ritual, he needs to be in the circle. Hidan is useful to have on your team but by himself he really isn't all that.

My fangirling has nothing to do with this. Hidan isn't impossible to beat. All someone really needs to be smarter than him. We don't know a whole lot about him, but from the way he behaves and his choices, an opponent doesn't have to be too smart to figure him out. Also I don't think Shino could beat Zetsu.

And at least I can watch the series with some maturity. You're getting all worked up over cartoon and letting it effect the way that you treat people. People can enjoy and what whatever they want, but being nasty to other people over cartoons...
Nothing u say makes sense u know that right?

Dont wont to write a hole page to keep bother you but, Naruto relies heavy on rasengan/bunshins, bee relies heavy on the hachibi... Hidan is dumb, but hes not a retarded, asuma got help from a konoha 11 and died btw U.U.

awyways, its not cartoon.. its anime. i dont get worked up, i treat people the way i want, if i think one person is stupid, i tell them, if i think ur wrong, i tell you that i think ur wrong , take it or leave it.

Just look at the Poll.. ppl agree with me more then U :D
 
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if you pick shino then you have not been watching or reading the manga and you dont know a shit about NARUTO:flaw:. Hidan all day long and thats a fact
 

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Melizzle marry me ;), she knows her stuff.
Anyway i do agree that shino would win. You do know that if you 0 chakra you can possible die, yes hidan included. Besides with 0 chakra, you can hardly move. Go back to tobi's stalling tactics against team kakashi, and tell me whether hidan could evade such a technique
 

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Pretty much anytime Shino's been shown in combat, He quickly analyzed his opponents and formulated an effective strategy. Hidan does the exact opposite, and doesn't think whatsoever during combat and just blindly rushes any opponent, as stated by Kakuzu. Also Hidan relies heavily on his immortality, which wouldn't help him much if he is left with no chakra at all.

Also, Hidan has to stay still to preform his curse, which would make him an easy target for Shino's bugs. All in all, I'd say Shino wins this one with moderate difficulty.
 

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Hidan dont need his curse to win against Shino, he will kill him with his scythe, and even if Hidan is the slowest in Akatsuki, he is faster then shino.
And Shikamaru wins because he set the trap before the fight, shino wont have the time to do this.
 
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....erm.. Shino really stinks at Taijutsu and Hidan is just so good at close range fighting with his scythe.. (is that called Kenjutsu?) His scythe could also extend if Shino decide to fight from long distance.

I think Hidan wins with high difficulty.. I think Shino's bugs are going to annoy the hell out of him, making him go berserk. Shino isn't Shikamaru, he isn't going to be able to stay calm and think up of a plan ahead of Hidan while Hidan is going beast mode.
 

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....erm.. Shino really stinks at Taijutsu and Hidan is just so good at close range fighting with his scythe.. (is that called Kenjutsu?) His scythe could also extend if Shino decide to fight from long distance.

I think Hidan wins with high difficulty.. I think Shino's bugs are going to annoy the hell out of him, making him go berserk. Shino isn't Shikamaru, he isn't going to be able to stay calm and think up of a plan ahead of Hidan while Hidan is going beast mode.
whoa whoa whoa, what??? ever heard of a bug clone maybe? it can be used in the blink of an eye. and i doubt hidan is fast enough to dodge a swarm of bugs coming from in front, above, and behind. shino may not be faster than Hidan in the databook, bit feats show that his bugs' speed more than makes up for that. also taijutsu is not a sure when for going up against shino...and wait...did you just say shino isn't going to be able to stay calm and think up a plan ahead while Hidan is going beast mode??? :flaw: since when has shino NOT been calm?

You know that Hidan is Faster then Shino right?




he can avoid the swam... some parts I agree... like chakra is the body's main nutrition, you could say. no chakra = no stamina. no chakra = no nutrition. Hidan can die if he starves to death, and with no stamina, he can't get up and fight. very logic but hidan can still make moves before the bugs hit him right? shino has no jutsu that can hold him trapped... and hes not akatuski for his abillity... he became an akatsuki because he was a missing S-class ninja and imortality my friend... is like the best thing ever... imagine Naruto combined with hidan o_O and they took a found of him... Hes not useless but I agree that almost everyone in akatsuki is stronger then him exept Zetsu or Maybe konan but hes still stronger then shino.

Read my other posts if you wanna know why.
if shino tricks hidan with a bug clone, then that is the beginning of the end. shino doesn't have to hit hidan or avoid him. he can simply use his bug sphere to protect him from hidan's physical attacks. i doubt hidan and his scythe can break through it, seeing as though Hidan has shown no other techniques. while shino is in bug globe, the insects would still be giving hidan a hard time + his chakra would be draining from bug clone insects.
 
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whoa whoa whoa, what??? ever heard of a bug clone maybe? it can be used in the blink of an eye. and i doubt hidan is fast enough to dodge a swarm of bugs coming from in front, above, and behind. shino may not be faster than Hidan in the databook, bit feats show that his bugs' speed more than makes up for that. also taijutsu is not a sure when for going up against shino...and wait...did you just say shino isn't going to be able to stay calm and think up a plan ahead while Hidan is going beast mode??? :flaw: since when has shino NOT been calm?
Yeah, Hidan's immortal so he can take any kind of damage. I don't see Shino having any weapon to cut his head off, only his bugs eating him up alive. Idk any feats Shino did except for a tie in a battle with Kankuro when they were kids.

Yeah, I've always took Shino as a calm guy because of the team he's in, there is the hot headed Kiba and the always nerve wreckin Hinata.. If I think about it, if you put Shino in a team with neji and shikamaru, he would be the most anxious one. I'm not saying shikamaru never gets worked up, he had to tell himself to calm down sometimes.

Lately, I think Shino isn't fully collected at times.. He is a sensitive guy, his feelings gets hurt easily and seems to worry about the war than Kiba and Hinata. Hinata helped him feel less anxious before entering the war.. That says something a bit about his personality.

So, yeah, I think with Hidan going bonkers on him even with the bugs on him, Shino would eventually lose control of his composure and lose a tough battle. Hidan is just one crazy guy who doesn't care about mistakes.

If it makes u feel any better, I'll think Shibi would beat Hidan. (ie, experience level)
 

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Yeah, Hidan's immortal so he can take any kind of damage. I don't see Shino having any weapon to cut his head off, only his bugs eating him up alive. Idk any feats Shino did except for a tie in a battle with Kankuro when they were kids.

Yeah, I've always took Shino as a calm guy because of the team he's in, there is the hot headed Kiba and the always nerve wreckin Hinata.. If I think about it, if you put Shino in a team with neji and shikamaru, he would be the most anxious one. I'm not saying shikamaru never gets worked up, he had to tell himself to calm down sometimes.

Lately, I think Shino isn't fully collected at times.. He is a sensitive guy, his feelings gets hurt easily and seems to worry about the war than Kiba and Hinata. Hinata helped him feel less anxious before entering the war.. That says something a bit about his personality.

So, yeah, I think with Hidan going bonkers on him even with the bugs on him, Shino would eventually lose control of his composure and lose a tough battle. Hidan is just one crazy guy who doesn't care about mistakes.

If it makes u feel any better, I'll think Shibi would beat Hidan. (ie, experience level)
lol you don't have to make me feel any better. and yeah, Shibi would win, no contest....well....maybe a slight one...but i digress. the fight between Shino and Kankuro, shino won. it was kankuro who fell first, therefore shino one. it even says he won in the databooks (if i'm not mistaken). and true, for some reason, kishi has him more sensitive and shit. and i think it's cuz ppl cried about him not having any emotion. (ugh stupid ppl). then again, it's not a war shino is fighting here, it's Hidan. (OMG SIDENOTE: if neji, shino, and shika were in the same squad...smh #TOOMUCH! but i digress (and i don't even like shika or neji). from what we've seen, shino has yet to lose his cool when up against a single opponent. he and his family didn't lose their composure when fighting Konan either (who imo is a much bigger threat than Hidan).
all in all, i would say that Shino is just a bad match up for Hidan. I would go as far as to say that Shino's weakness isn't taijutsu, it's going up against ninjutsu, seeing as though his bugs haven't been shown to resist elemental jutsu and such. I think Shino utilizes his long range, because in fact, he know's that it's more of a weakness, yet it's also a strength. You see what getting close got Zaku in the chuunin exams, as well as what kankuro got in the end, when face to face with Shino.
it's kinda the same situation with neji and his blind spot. as he uses rotation to cover it. it is a strength and a weakness. shino's strength and weakness is his long range, not his close range. now unless you're talking about ppl with super strength, then shino can indeed tank a couple of hits if need be.
but i major digress lmfao
all in all, in this fight, he'd utilize long range, and short range only under bug clone circumstances
 
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lol you don't have to make me feel any better. and yeah, Shibi would win, no contest....well....maybe a slight one...but i digress. the fight between Shino and Kankuro, shino won. it was kankuro who fell first, therefore shino one. it even says he won in the databooks (if i'm not mistaken). and true, for some reason, kishi has him more sensitive and shit. and i think it's cuz ppl cried about him not having any emotion. (ugh stupid ppl). then again, it's not a war shino is fighting here, it's Hidan. (OMG SIDENOTE: if neji, shino, and shika were in the same squad...smh #TOOMUCH! but i digress (and i don't even like shika or neji). from what we've seen, shino has yet to lose his cool when up against a single opponent. he and his family didn't lose their composure when fighting Konan either (who imo is a much bigger threat than Hidan).
all in all, i would say that Shino is just a bad match up for Hidan. I would go as far as to say that Shino's weakness isn't taijutsu, it's going up against ninjutsu, seeing as though his bugs haven't been shown to resist elemental jutsu and such. I think Shino utilizes his long range, because in fact, he know's that it's more of a weakness, yet it's also a strength. You see what getting close got Zaku in the chuunin exams, as well as what kankuro got in the end, when face to face with Shino.
it's kinda the same situation with neji and his blind spot. as he uses rotation to cover it. it is a strength and a weakness. shino's strength and weakness is his long range, not his close range. now unless you're talking about ppl with super strength, then shino can indeed tank a couple of hits if need be.
but i major digress lmfao
all in all, in this fight, he'd utilize long range, and short range only under bug clone circumstances

That's cool, you have your opinion, I have mine.. Also, I never meant for Shino to be with Neji and Shikamaru against Hidan, that's overkill. I meant comparing Shino as a person to other teammates. He's obviously calm compared to Kiba and Hinata, but in any situation, I would think he would be less calm than Shikamaru and Neji. Read carefully.

I sort of think that Shino lost the match to Kankuro.. I mean, sure, Shino bested Kankuro in the fight generally.. but Kankuro had the last laugh, Shino was poisoned and he would've died if Shibi didn't find him.. It's hard to use this feat because Shino was a kid and Hidan is an immortal, who knows how long he have lived? There is huge difference in experience here.

Sure, Shino's abilities has a chance to beat Hidan but I don't think he could pull it off. I do detect that he doubts himself sometimes and that is an advantage for Hidan mentally. Which is the only reason why I think Shibi would beat Hidan.

I actually think the other way around, Hidan is a bad matchup for Shino. Of course, Shino would still have all of his composure against Konan with the rest of his clan behind his back. No doubt about that. I'm not trying to underestimate Shino, or downplay him.. Shino is, without a doubt, one of the strongest Konoha 11 member.. Hidan is just a crazy bastard, leaving plenty of room for mistakes like it doesnt affect the result of the fight.

I don't think Shino would've expected such opponent like Hidan, and again, u know how sensitive Shino is and how cold hearted and downright mean Hidan can be.. He would be cussing the crap out of Shino, affecting him mentally and emotionally while rapidly throwing fists and whipping his scythe at shino constantly. If he can handle his head being cut off, he sure as hell can handle bug bites. :)
 
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That's cool, you have your opinion, I have mine.. Also, I never meant for Shino to be with Neji and Shikamaru against Hidan, that's overkill. I meant comparing Shino as a person to other teammates. He's obviously calm compared to Kiba and Hinata, but in any situation, I would think he would be less calm than Shikamaru and Neji. Read carefully.

I sort of think that Shino lost the match to Kankuro.. I mean, sure, Shino bested Kankuro in the fight generally.. but Kankuro had the last laugh, Shino was poisoned and he would've died if Shibi didn't find him.. It's hard to use this feat because Shino was a kid and Hidan is an immortal, who knows how long he have lived? There is huge difference in experience here.

Sure, Shino's abilities has a chance to beat Hidan but I don't think he could pull it off. I do detect that he doubts himself sometimes and that is an advantage for Hidan mentally. Which is the only reason why I think Shibi would beat Hidan.

I actually think the other way around, Hidan is a bad matchup for Shino. Of course, Shino would still have all of his composure against Konan with the rest of his clan behind his back. No doubt about that. I'm not trying to underestimate Shino, or downplay him.. Shino is, without a doubt, one of the strongest Konoha 11 member.. Hidan is just a crazy bastard, leaving plenty of room for mistakes like it doesnt affect the result of the fight.

I don't think Shino would've expected such opponent like Hidan, and again, u know how sensitive Shino is and how cold hearted and downright mean Hidan can be.. He would be cussing the crap out of Shino, affecting him mentally and emotionally while rapidly throwing fists and whipping his scythe at shino constantly. If he can handle his head being cut off, he sure as hell can handle bug bites. :)
LOLOLOLOL @Hidan cussin Shino out lmfao!! i would cry from laughter at Shino's response lolololol. true i see your point. and no, i meant if Shino, Shika, and Neji were in a squad from like, the beginning of naruto. that'd be an awesome squad (led by Asuma of course) lol very formidable.

i really don't feel like typing that much now lol but i'll +rep you cuz you're calm, and very sensible. unlike most of the fanboys on here -.-

it would've been a good fight though...there's just so much Shino could do with his bugs, while Hidan only has that one jutsu. i just couldn't see Shino losing lol
 
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LOLOLOLOL @Hidan cussin Shino out lmfao!! i would cry from laughter at Shino's response lolololol. true i see your point. and no, i meant if Shino, Shika, and Neji were in a squad from like, the beginning of naruto. that'd be an awesome squad (led by Asuma of course) lol very formidable.

i really don't feel like typing that much now lol but i'll +rep you cuz you're calm, and very sensible. unlike most of the fanboys on here -.-

it would've been a good fight though...there's just so much Shino could do with his bugs, while Hidan only has that one jutsu. i just couldn't see Shino losing lol
Haha, gotcha.. Shino, Shikamaru and Neji as a team led by Asuma would be quite entertaining. Asuma would be the only cheerful one of the group, lol..

Exactly. I think Shino has so much potential once he has complete confidence in himself. Hidan is so limited with his abilities. (he lived a long time, shouldn't he have developed a few more moves, but shrugs)

I would change my mind once Shino becomes confident and powerful like his Dad.
 

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The thing is, shino doesn't fight his enemy at all, his bugs do. If hidan can get to him and get his blood he will win, but has no jutsu that he has shown that could do something to the bugs.
 

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Yeah, I've always took Shino as a calm guy because of the team he's in, there is the hot headed Kiba and the always nerve wreckin Hinata.. If I think about it, if you put Shino in a team with neji and shikamaru, he would be the most anxious one. I'm not saying shikamaru never gets worked up, he had to tell himself to calm down sometimes.
No, he's calm because that's who he is. It has nothing to do with his team. He wouldn't turn anxious just because he's put on a different team.

Lately, I think Shino isn't fully collected at times.. He is a sensitive guy, his feelings gets hurt easily and seems to worry about the war than Kiba and Hinata. Hinata helped him feel less anxious before entering the war.. That says something a bit about his personality.
No, he's still quite collected. He shows his sensitivity because he wants to connect with his comrades, but it's never been an issue with his fights or lifestyle. Considering that the only time his sensitive is when he's ignored/forgotten (which is understandable) and no other time, he doesn't exactly get "hurt easily". Also, when did Hinata help Shino feel less anxious?

So, yeah, I think with Hidan going bonkers on him even with the bugs on him, Shino would eventually lose control of his composure and lose a tough battle. Hidan is just one crazy guy who doesn't care about mistakes.
Shino's never lost control of his composure to the extent he'd lose a fight. And there's nothing to show that he ever will.

the fight between Shino and Kankuro, shino won. it was kankuro who fell first, therefore shino one.
Some people think Kankuro won because he got up without any aid. Only it wasn't shown, so it can't count as a win.

kishi has him more sensitive and shit. and i think it's cuz ppl cried about him not having any emotion
If you meant Kishimoto made Shino more sensitive during Shippuden then no. He first showed a hint of sensitivity when he asked Kiba about the Sasuke mission. Shino is meant to be shown as composed, not emotionless. Shino showing some sensitivity makes him human, so I have no problem with it.

seeing as though his bugs haven't been shown to resist elemental jutsu and such
If his bugs haven't been shown to resist elemental jutsu then how can you say his weakness is going up against Ninjustu? Also, only the Databooks give us the idea Shino is weak at Taijutsu. The manga, not so much. He simply just doesn't use it and has never been forced to.

I think Shino utilizes his long range, because in fact, he know's that it's more of a weakness, yet it's also a strength.
Er...Shino is part of a clan. How he ultilizes his bugs is how everyone else in his clan does. The idea is to get chakra-eating bugs on the opponent regardless of distance.

You see what getting close got Zaku in the chuunin exams, as well as what kankuro got in the end, when face to face with Shino.
No that was Shino's strategry that got Zaku and Kankuro in the end.

shino's strength and weakness is his long range, not his close range
Not really. He uses long range 'cause that's how the bugs work. Keep in mind that those who use close range are at the risk of getting hit or tiring out, because they're trying to keep at a close distance with their opponent. Shino using close range when he has the means to use long range would just be a waste of his energy.

He's obviously calm compared to Kiba and Hinata, but in any situation, I would think he would be less calm than Shikamaru and Neji. Read carefully.
Compared to them, yes. But not because of them. Shikamaru and Neji both have been shown to lose their cool. When has Shino? He shows a bit of a sensitive side only when forgotten/ignored. Other then that he keeps his calm state. If Shikamaru, Neji and Shino went on a mission they'd all be calm and composed. There'd be no reason for either of the boys to make the other uncomfortable.

I sort of think that Shino lost the match to Kankuro.. I mean, sure, Shino bested Kankuro in the fight generally.. but Kankuro had the last laugh, Shino was poisoned and he would've died if Shibi didn't find him..
Kankuro was chakra exhausted and might have died if Temari hadn't found him. Remember that Kankuro couldn't even move and could only weakly greet his sister.
While Shino got help from his father, Shino has more of the right to have the last laugh. He took his opponent down first. He was still able to move despite being poisoned and didn't fall until his opponent was taken down. As oppose to Kankuro who couldn't move at all as soon as he was overwhelmed by Kikai. Shino also managed to leave the battlefield before Kankuro. Kankuro was never shown to leave with or without any aid from Temari.

Sure, Shino's abilities has a chance to beat Hidan but I don't think he could pull it off. I do detect that he doubts himself sometimes and that is an advantage for Hidan mentally. Which is the only reason why I think Shibi would beat Hidan.
Show an example of Shino ever doubting himself. Also, Shibi trusts his son's cabilities. This was shown when he told Shino to do his best as they faced Konan. Shino said "I will". Hidan would just be another S-rank opponent that Shino would have to face in a collected manner.
Since Shino is mostly composed (save from a bit of sensitivity) and you state he has a chance to beat Hidan, then I think he should be able to pull it off. It's just the matter of a good strategry.

Of course, Shino would still have all of his composure against Konan with the rest of his clan behind his back.
Someone before suggested that someone else read the manga. I think you need to as well. Please explain where you got the idea Shino would be composed because he's being backed up or because his team mates with Kiba and Hinata. Also provide a hint of Shino having issues with "crazy people". Hidan would probably be just another Kiba to Shino.

I don't think Shino would've expected such opponent like Hidan, and again, u know how sensitive Shino is and how cold hearted and downright mean Hidan can be.. He would be cussing the crap out of Shino, affecting him mentally and emotionally while rapidly throwing fists and whipping his scythe at shino constantly. If he can handle his head being cut off, he sure as hell can handle bug bites.
No, Shino would expect any type of opponent. Even a small child. As he told his team mates long ago "Never underestimate your opponent. No matter how small a bug they may seem". Or how crazy. When has Shino shown sensitivity because someone is cold hearted and mean? Shino's not a child. :confused: He shows sensitivy because he's ignored and wants to connect with those he works with.
On bold: Please provide an example to back this up.

i really don't feel like typing that much now lol but i'll +rep you cuz you're calm, and very sensible. unlike most of the fanboys on here -.-
Sorry, but they weren't. They're stating Shino would be sensitive to Hidan's crazyness and "meaness". Because Shino sulks when forgotten... Entirely ignoring that Shino is only sensitive when forgotten and composed any other time.

I think Shino has so much potential once he has complete confidence in himself.
He's not Hinata. He has a lot of confidence in himself. Fighting in the chunin exams, going after Kankuro, fighting in the Pain war along side his clan, showing no fear in the war, using Insect Sphere early in the wall with no hesitation (even calmly telling Hinata not to stress herself as he, too is helping).

I would change my mind once Shino becomes confident and powerful like his Dad.
His dad already thinks so. Not only was Shino with his dad to confront Konan, his dad told him to do his best. Shino agreed and was shown a small panel of his moving forward with no hesitation before the scene changed.
 
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