Shinki trashed Mitsuki LMAO

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Still, there's no way Shinki can react to his speed, just deal with it. Pretty sure that Mitsuki can only use a weaker version or his sage mode is actually going to get nerfed and weakened so the others can have a chance to keep up with him.
Despite Mitsuki saying he wasn't sure if he would beat a Shinki who wasn't displaying his full abilities yet? Yet you are 'pretty sure'? No offense... but i think i'll take the characters words over yours seeing as he knows his own capabilities.

Was talking about him surpassing "Orochimaru" not "Shinki".:lol
The skills needed to surpass Oro are far greater than those needed to deal with Shinki.:lol
That's not what he seemed to think though.. you are coming at me like Mitsuki didn't make the statement himself lol
 

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Mitsuki was actually nerfed , orochimaru threatens his ass
He would be out of the village, no questions, if they found out Orochimaru created such a monster, especially if he got Gaara so :salt:y by whipping his son's ass. Gaara would use his diplomatic power to get Mitsuki kicked out of Konoha.
 

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Shinki was using everything Gaara taught, Mitsuki wasnt using what orochimaru gave him.
Gaara said he taught everything he knows to Shinki and that he wasn't showing his full capabilities yet. If the first part is true, then you must have simply forgotten Gaara's entire arsenal for you to say that bold lol
 

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He would be out of the village, no questions, if they found out Orochimaru created such a monster, especially if he got Gaara so :salt:y by whipping his son's ass. Gaara would use his diplomatic power to get Mitsuki kicked out of Konoha.
It hypocritical but smart, orochimaru is a snake and still antagonistic. Naruto didn't question borutos advanced powers, granted Sasuke was teaching him and Sasuke is Jesus in Naruto eyes. Mitsuki has it tough already probably, but nAruto probably wouldn't care, I think the problem is that people may think that orochimaru is cursing people again
 

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Despite Mitsuki saying he wasn't sure if he would beat a Shinki who wasn't displaying his full abilities yet? Yet you are 'pretty sure'? No offense... but i think i'll take the characters words over yours seeing as he knows his own capabilities.



That's not what he seemed to think though.. you are coming at me like Mitsuki didn't make the statement himself lol
*cringes*
All I'm gonna do now is simply post this:
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And ask you, "Can you please show me where Shinki was actually fast and skilled enough to react to something that can blitz a sannin?"
If you can't answer that, then everything should be clear and obvious by now.:lol

Also, as Red Slayer said, unlike Gaara who taught his son everything he knows already, Orochimaru still didn't teach his son how to:
>Use Oral rebith + teaching him his other snakes jutsus.
>Kenjutsu.
>Killing intent (Solo'd Part 1 3t Kakashi btw).:rolleyes:
>Other elements.

Also give him the Kusunagi blade, and who knows if Mitsuki has Mukoton and the Sound's 4 kekkei genkais, if he has them, then Oro definitely didn't tell him and teach him about it...Gaara already taught Shinki everything.:Sparks:
 

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*cringes*
All I'm gonna do now is simply post this:
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And ask you, "Can you please show me where Shinki was actually fast and skilled enough to react to something that can blitz a sannin?"
If you can't answer that, then everything should be clear and obvious by now.:lol


Also, as Red Slayer said, unlike Gaara who taught his son everything he knows already, Orochimaru still didn't teach his son how to:
>Use Oral rebith + teaching him his other snakes jutsus.
>Kenjutsu.
>Killing intent (Solo'd Part 1 3t Kakashi btw).:rolleyes:
>Other elements.

Also give him the Kusunagi blade, and who knows if Mitsuki has Mukoton and the Sound's 4 kekkei genkais, if he has them, then Oro definitely didn't tell him and teach him about it...Gaara already taught Shinki everything.:Sparks:
Cringe? Lmao... Like i said, Mitsuki who knows his own capabilities made the statement. Not me.

- The bold makes zero sense to me. If Mitsuki could blitz Shinki with SM he wouldn't have made the statement.. Its really that simple tbh.

Edit: Or hold up.. Did Mitsuki lose his memory after that stuff with Oro?

- The rest just goes to show that like Red Slayer, you don't know Gaara's entire arsenal lol plus bringing an hypothetical future/another version Mitsuki to fight current Shinki... The Killing intent part though is ridiculous.. Seriously?
 

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Hype for Mitsuki's power has already been depicted with him beating Shino.. With that, it would make no sense for the statement to be directed at young viewers so that "they'll doubt Mitsuki's full power"
I didn't mean doubting Mitsuki in general, what I meant was that they would be doubting whenever Mitsuki's full power would allow him to easily win against Shinki or if it turned out to be an equal match or even lose.
That statement was pretty much for everyone and it was more so everyone will "believe it, so that fight could go either way even with serious Mitsuki."
That's what SP wants you to think. What if Mitsuki did not say this ? Everyone would be like : "Yeah Shinki won but against restricted opponent, not impressing, such a waste of good fight"... Sounds familiar? Because actually this is how people felt about this fight before, since Oro told him to hold back.
They added this line specially to avoid this kind of disappointment, to make it look like this match was still good, and that we didn't miss much because they want us to think that SM potentially wouldn't change fight that much... yeah who buys this shit
 

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I didn't mean doubting Mitsuki in general, what I meant was that they would be doubting whenever Mitsuki's full power would allow him to easily win against Shinki or if it turned out to be an equal match or even lose.


That's what SP wants you to think. What if Mitsuki did not say this ? Everyone would be like : "Yeah Shinki won but against restricted opponent, not impressing, such a waste of good fight"... Sounds familiar? Because actually this is how people felt about this fight before, since Oro told him to hold back.
They added this line specially to avoid this kind of disappointment, to make it look like this match was still good, and that we didn't miss much because they want us to think that SM potentially wouldn't change fight that much... yeah who buys this shit
lol.. that bold though. I basically repeated what you said.

Perhaps the fact that i didn't watch/read that oneshot is impairing my judgement but the stuff goes against logic to me.

Lets try this route. For one, the Mitsuki that supposedly blitzes Oro was pre Academy Mitsuki right? If we were to say that was a blitz, wouldn't that mean pre Academy Mitsuki with SM would be greater than a whole host of even shippuden K11?

Or better still in the original series, 3T Naruto almost kills Jiraiya. Does that mean 3T Naruto defeats any and everyone who isn't up to Jiraiya's level?
 

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lol.. that bold though. I basically repeated what you said.

Perhaps the fact that i didn't watch/read that oneshot is impairing my judgement but the stuff goes against logic to me.

Lets try this route. For one, the Mitsuki that supposedly blitzes Oro was pre Academy Mitsuki right? If we were to say that was a blitz, wouldn't that mean pre Academy Mitsuki with SM would be greater than a whole host of even shippuden K11?

Or better still in the original series, 3T Naruto almost kills Jiraiya. Does that mean 3T Naruto defeats any and everyone who isn't up to Jiraiya's level?
Idk about your comparisons and what those are trying to imply, but Oneshot basically gave SM Mitsuki a speed feat, that would allow him to blitz before Shinki could react. This matchup would be similar to Lee without weights against Gaara. Fourtunetly for Shinki, his sand is more durable than Gaara's, but then again SM also increases strength. If that makes you happy, neither of them went all out in the end and this fight was one big disappointment.
 

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Idk about your comparisons and what those are trying to imply, but Oneshot basically gave SM Mitsuki a speed feat, that would allow him to blitz before Shinki could react. This matchup would be similar to Lee without weights against Gaara. Fourtunetly for Shinki, his sand is more durable than Gaara's, but then again SM also increases strength. If that makes you happy, neither of them went all out in the end and this fight was one big disappointment.
And if it was truly a speed feat in that sense, then that would put him above a whole host of characters and that makes sense to you? Again, Mitsuki makes that statement knowing his own capabilities. If he could for certain blitz him off the bat, he wouldn't have made it. I'm not sure why we're trying to go against a character's own words here.
 

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Shinki is fucking awesome, apparently he can use raiton with his iron sand, damn he amazes me every time. And he still hasn't even bothered with using his puppet skills.
 

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And if it was truly a speed feat in that sense, then that would put him above a whole host of characters and that makes sense to you? Again, Mitsuki makes that statement knowing his own capabilities. If he could for certain blitz him off the bat, he wouldn't have made it. I'm not sure why we're trying to go against a character's own words here.
Because as we all know, sometimes character's statements aren't meant to be taken serious, literally etc. but if you want to believe in Mitsuki's words that hard to be true, then it's fine. Personally I believe anime is just trying to create further hype for Shinki.
 

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Mitsuki was already low on chakra and injured that's why he had doubts. I'm sure if he enters sage transformation right off the bat he would beat Shinki.
i dont think he would beat him. Iron sand is by far one of the most versatile KKGs in the series.

Maybe adult versions Mitsuki would win but currently Mitsuki doesn't stand a chance.
 

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Im not fan of either two characters but Iron Sand is overhyped lmao. Sage mode is stated to make everything superior which include strength. He can bust through it. Why anyone thinks otherwise is honestly beyond me. Mitsuki's Sage Mode isn't the typical version either, it's got a Chakra Cloak and ethereal snakes to boot. It's more like Bijū Chakra Sage Mode more than Base SM like the kind of Naruto, Kabuto, Minato.....it even has horns, connecting to it's Otsutsuki Origins. We know Otsutsuki techniques>>>all in average.
 

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Believe in the Iron Sand hype!!! xD Absolutely forgot about the magnetic advantage as well... Bruh! We need a Shinki manga or something xD
Where would you rank Mitsuki's speed? Seems to be around Weighted Lee level. Shinki having that magnet ability which came from a guy Naruto one-shotted in the war was a nice touch. Shinki's pretty powerful.
 

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I haven't watched the episode yet, but I'm pretty sure Mitsuki didn't even try. His SM would've completely and utterly crushed Shinki, it's on a completely different level than anything that all of the new gen has, including Shinki.
 
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