[Theory] Shinju is Hagaromo's father.

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In accordance to some story telling traditions, it is not uncommon that the chosen ones are miraculously conceived by a holy force. Virgin Mary conceived Jesus by means of the Holy Spirit. Anakin Skywalker was miraculously conceived by the Force, a holy entity.

Since this whole Shinju thing takes a Christian direction, it would not be unfitting for Hagaromo to be conceived via the Shinju. Perhaps Kayuga takes the role of Virgin Mary in addition to Eve.

Also, fruits are the seeds in which plants spread their genetic material. This genetic material most likely got mixed with Kayuga's and ultimately grew in the form of a Hagaromo embryo. So it makes sense even from a scientific perspective.

In fact, I might even go as far as to say that the outcome might even depend on what "soil" the fruit grows in. If it grows in a person, we might get a S06P. If it grows under a different condition, it might be another Juubi. (this leads to the speculation that the old Shinju produced a second fruit then died. This second fruit would turn out to be the Shinju reborn, the violent version of Shinju, however this is beyond the scope of this thread)

Also isn't it weird that no father was mentioned? I find it odd. Almost too odd.
 

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If I assume that this is true, the next question is how Naruto can be reincarnation of SO6P, if SO6P's was Juubi??
Does that mean Minato=Juubi??:cool:
 

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Kaguya had a son thanks to the 'wood' then? Godammit no matter how you look at this now I understand why Madara puts a rapeface when he thinks about Hashirama lmfao lol.















...now seriously. I don't believe the Shinju being precisely the tree of Knowledge (Christianism), but the Yggdrasil, the Tree of the Life (Norses). Furthermore, if you make some investigation, the Yggdrasil curiously have its branches extended so whoever walks through it can reach the "Nine" Worlds.

If we talk about plot, I guess he was not mentioned because he was not important. I mean, Kaguya ate the fruit and got holy power, she had beast *** with her man, Hagoromo was born with chakra thanks to Kaguya because she is a bad girl, Hagoromo became the Sage of Six Paths.

What's the role of Hagoromo's father? Nothing. Ergo, it doesn't matter if he is mentioned or not... he is not important for plot.
 
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Why the hell did you bring Jesus up??? :rage:
 

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In accordance to some story telling traditions, it is not uncommon that the chosen ones are miraculously conceived by a holy force. Virgin Mary conceived Jesus by means of the Holy Spirit. Anakin Skywalker was miraculously conceived by the Force, a holy entity.

Since this whole Shinju thing takes a Christian direction, it would not be unfitting for Hagaromo to be conceived via the Shinju. Perhaps Kayuga takes the role of Virgin Mary in addition to Eve.

Also, fruits are the seeds in which plants spread their genetic material. This genetic material most likely got mixed with Kayuga's and ultimately grew in the form of a Hagaromo embryo. So it makes sense even from a scientific perspective.

In fact, I might even go as far as to say that the outcome might even depend on what "soil" the fruit grows in. If it grows in a person, we might get a S06P. If it grows under a different condition, it might be another Juubi. (this leads to the speculation that the old Shinju produced a second fruit then died. This second fruit would turn out to be the Shinju reborn, the violent version of Shinju, however this is beyond the scope of this thread)

Also isn't it weird that no father was mentioned? I find it odd. Almost too odd.
The second fruit happened 1000 years later? That would mean the sage must have lived 1000 years, before taking on the Juubi.
Or did you mean something else?

Kaguya had a son thanks to the 'wood' then?

If we talk about plot, I guess he was not mentioned because he was not important. I mean, Kaguya ate the fruit and got holy power, she had beast *** with her man, Hagoromo was born with chakra thanks to Kaguya because she is a bad girl, Hagoromo became the Sage of Six Paths.
Now I am getting totally different images about Kaguya, the fruit and the god tree :p.
 
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I think Kaguya had a son thru her chakra. With godly chakra, she created a son.
 

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Kaguya had a son thanks to the 'wood' then? Godammit no matter how you look at this now I understand why Madara puts a rapeface when he thinks about Hashirama lmfao lol.















...now seriously. I don't believe the Shinju being precisely the tree of Knowledge (Christianism), but the Yggdrasil, the Tree of the Life (Norses). Furthermore, if you make some investigation, the Yggdrasil curiously have its branches extended so whoever walks through it can reach the "Nine" Worlds.

If we talk about plot, I guess he was not mentioned because he was not important. I mean, Kaguya ate the fruit and got holy power, she had beast *** with her man, Hagoromo was born with chakra thanks to Kaguya because she is a bad girl, Hagoromo became the Sage of Six Paths.

What's the role of Hagoromo's father? Nothing. Ergo, it doesn't matter if he is mentioned or not... he is not important for plot.

Haha wood is the source of all life, no matter how you look at it lol.

Well, it is much more epic had Hagaromo be conceived by a holy force than through traditional means. He is so much of a godly legend that it just makes sense that way.
 

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The second fruit happened 1000 years later? That would mean the sage must have lived 1000 years, before taking on the Juubi.
Or did you mean something else?

Now I am getting totally different images about Kaguya, the fruit and the god tree :p.

I see your point. That was just mere speculation on my part. But it's clear that the Shinju was reborn after the fruit was eaten. Maybe, since the fruit gave birth to Hagoromo, it left a void in Yin and Yang that could only be offset with a birth of an evil entity, the reborn Juubi. So essentially, the fruit could have given birth to two things, Hagoromo and the current Shinju/Juubi.
 

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Here is the reference.

In this tale, Kayuga was born miraculously in a growing bamboo stalk. I believe Kishi switched it up and decided for Hagaromo be the miraculous birth.
 
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