Shikamaru or Minato, which is smarter?

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Re: Shikamaru IQ vs Minato IQ

Hard to say, since we dont know a whole lot about any of them, i think a shogi tournement is in order.
 

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Minato since he figured out tobi's weakness....lol it doesn't matter if he was 16 years old since him figuring out his weakness has NOTHING to do with his age.....Minato is smarter
 

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Re: Shikamaru IQ vs Minato IQ

Also look at age difference between the two

Shikamaru wins by far expecally if u skip couple of years and see when he 25-30 lik minato
1.itachi had hokage wisdom (this includes his intellect) at age 7
2. Shikamaru couldn't outsmart kakuza yet naruto did
3.14 year old obito (directly after ms awakening) stomps shikamaru no dif

The op says in battle, obito only states this as a result of shikamaru having prep
Shikamaru with prep> minato
Itachi age 7> than minato and shikamaru at age 7
 
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Maybe but I think shikaku> sasuke (strategy) I would also consider gaara.
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Sasuke used to have strategy b4 MS now he just spams

Gaara has become tactical genius over the time skip u can tell tht was gonna happen (meaning u can tell he was gonna be a brain type fighter when he turned good) against kimmimaru cuz how he was able to find the hardest minerals in ground crush them and create his own sand turning terrain to his advantage

I mean gaara doesn't really get power ups but its amazing what he can do with only one ability witch is sand...

1.itachi had hokage wisdom (this includes his intellect) at age 7
2. Shikamaru couldn't outsmart kakuza yet naruto did
3.14 year old obito (directly after ms awakening) stomps shikamaru no dif

The op says in battle, obito only states this as a result of shikamaru having prep

Omg no they didn't they said itachi had mindset of hokage at young age -_- tht means he puts his village above everything else... Clealy seeing as he killed his whole clan on villages orders Not tht he's as smart as a Kage I hate when itachi fans get all swollen over this comment... We all know kishimoto is either gay for itachi or wants to be something like him..
 
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Shikamaru is definitely smarter overall. Give him a few minutes he will figure out anything.
Minato has better instincts and more experience breaking down and analyzing jutsu.
 

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Re: Shikamaru IQ vs Minato IQ

Omg no they didn't they said itachi had mindset of hokage at young age -_- tht means he puts his village above everything else... Clealy seeing as he killed his whole clan on villages orders Not tht he's as smart as a Kage I hate when itachi fans get all swollen over this comment... We all know kishimoto is either gay for itachi or wants to be something like him..
If you look at the context in which kabuto hypes itachi's battle stategy skills it is clear that his battle intellect is based on his wisdom, and therefore a result of his wisdom.
 

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Shikamaru IQ vs Minato IQ who has higher IQ at the battle field
Jiraiya already answered this, there hasn't been a genius like Minato since Minato and Jiraiya knows Itachi, Shikaku, im not sure if he knew about Shikamaru but his dad is smarter than him so it doesn't really matter. If Jiraiya was wrong then Tsunade would had said there's Shikaku and Shikamaru like when Jiraiya told her only she can be Hokage and she said there's Kakashi and Naruto when his time comes. Jiraiya then sai fair enough to Kakashi but said Naruto is not there yet. Why would Tsunade not have done this with Minato being genius that no one have been able to match or surpass? Tsunade does know about Minato, Shikaku and Shikamaru so that proves who more of a genius.

Also Shikamaru strategies are more about how he can use other people's strength to help him win while Minato is able to see jutsus strengths and weakness to make a strategy on how to beat his opponent. He also was said (by Jiraiya) to not make a wasted move which means all of his moves have a reason. He was able to rebuild the ttb into his own A rank jutsu just by seeing the tbb (most likely fighting Bee and A). Minato Shown he knows about jutsus he haven't even seen (Tobirama's sensing using his finger on the ground and his S/T jutsus even tho he wasn't alive when Tobirama was). He also shown wisdom by being able to think about the big picture while under pressure (Minato choose to die so he can seal half of Kurama's power in Naruto so : 1. the balance of power among villages remains. 2. didn't want Kurama to revive later on without a host so it doesn''t cause more damage. 3. He believed Tobi would be the bringer of great disaster and only someone with special powers could defeat him once and for all).
 

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Re: Shikamaru IQ vs Minato IQ

Shikamru by far

Minato so far only outsmarted a 15 year old as far as I kno

Shikamaru does take longer to come up with strategy but like other guy said its one hell of a strategy
Minato rushes into things cuz he thinks he can speed blitz the world
But even against the 15 year old his formalting was brilliant yes but it cost him his life due to how he fights he fights with speed blitzing not his brain he only uses it when he realizes he needs something more then speed blitzing
Shika uses his brain at start of battle analyzing everything so he won't have mistakes witch is reason why he's still alive

Minato though was brilliant in his fight against 15 year old obito it cost him his life...shikamaru even though he takes longer his plan is always full proof
age has no standing in naruto, shikamaru is 16 so whats your point and minato is not that big headed that he thinks he can just blitz people he fights people as if they are a danger and in that one fight against tobi pretty much puts him above most when it comes to intelligence minato never does anything with out reason and he wasnt forced to give his life he gave his life for the future of shinobi so you could say he planned 16 years in advance.

shikamaru is smart but he isnt smarter than minato, as minato seems to always be one step in front of his enemy's on 1st glance of them, where as shikamaru needs prep time to even compete on minatos level
 

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Jiraiya already answered this, there hasn't been a genius like Minato since Minato and Jiraiya knows Itachi, Shikaku, im not sure if he knew about Shikamaru but his dad is smarter than him so it doesn't really matter. If Jiraiya was wrong then Tsunade would had said there's Shikaku and Shikamaru like when Jiraiya told her only she can be Hokage and she said there's Kakashi and Naruto when his time comes. Jiraiya then sai fair enough to Kakashi but said Naruto is not there yet. Why would Tsunade not have done this with Minato being genius that no one have been able to match or surpass? Tsunade does know about Minato, Shikaku and Shikamaru so that proves who more of a genius.

Also Shikamaru strategies are more about how he can use other people's strength to help him win while Minato is able to see jutsus strengths and weakness to make a strategy on how to beat his opponent. He also was said (by Jiraiya) to not make a wasted move which means all of his moves have a reason. He was able to rebuild the ttb into his own A rank jutsu just by seeing the tbb (most likely fighting Bee and A). Minato Shown he knows about jutsus he haven't even seen (Tobirama's sensing using his finger on the ground and his S/T jutsus even tho he wasn't alive when Tobirama was). He also shown wisdom by being able to think about the big picture while under pressure (Minato choose to die so he can seal half of Kurama's power in Naruto so : 1. the balance of power among villages remains. 2. didn't want Kurama to revive later on without a host so it doesn''t cause more damage. 3. He believed Tobi would be the bringer of great disaster and only someone with special powers could defeat him once and for all).
Your first point is invalid because of:
1.the time he said this
2.the fact that jiraiya wasn't present during itachi's childhood and never even interacted with shikamaru. Also tsunade was no present for itachi's childhood.

Your second point I somewhat agree with.
 
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