Shikaku's strategy through Hatake Kakashi....

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I believe the strategy Shikaku had concerning Kamui had something to do with this:
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Meaning, Shikaku wanted Kakashi to enter the Kamui dimension and exit out of it right next to Obito and physically stop him and possibly Madara too.

What other ways do you see through the use of Kamui?

Also, his new strategy might be a completely new one, or it might still need the use of Kamui, can't really guess that one...

What do you guys think it might be?
 
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Idk anymore... this is way too much for non-uchiha. Kishi cross the line, Kakashi have to lose his eye sight.
 

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Idk anymore... this is way too much for non-uchiha. Kishi cross the line, Kakashi have to lose his eye sight.

Like you said....he is a non Uchiha, the blindness doesn't apply to him, or you have to be using both eye powers to go blind, do you think Kishimoto is a fool?
 

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That's not a very complete strategy... Just using Kamui to put Kakashi next to Obito and Madara wouldn't ensure that he can do anything against them.
 

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I bet minato will show up from out of nowhere but even his presence won't be enough then when seems that everyone will die, Jiraiya will return not do much and still everyone will die.
 

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That's not a very complete strategy... Just using Kamui to put Kakashi next to Obito and Madara wouldn't ensure that he can do anything against them.

He would be able to sever their connection with the Juubi if he attacked with a Raikiri forcing them to dodge, which was the alliance's strategy in the last chapter, to cut of the 'head', Obito and Madara.
 

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Like you said....he is a non Uchiha, the blindness doesn't apply to him, or you have to be using both eye powers to go blind, do you think Kishimoto is a fool?

Yet Kakashi knew about it's eye weakness. For now we barely know what's on Kishi's mind. Perhaps if I'm right this may be a sign for his end in this war. Kakashi without his eye is not the same cool guy, you know that.

So I hope that Shika has another option than kamui.
 
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Yet Kakashi knew about it's eye weakness. For now we barely know what's on Kishi's mind. Perhaps if I'm right this may be a sign for his end in this war. Kakashi without his eye is not the same cool guy, you know that.

So you do think Kishimoto is as foolish as Kubo, why keep reading his manga then?

And you're assuming Kakashi knew about the blindness through his own experience when he hadn't even used his Kamui yet? >__>
 

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So you do think Kishimoto is as foolish as Kubo, why keep reading his manga then?

And you're assuming Kakashi knew about the blindness through his own experience when he hadn't even used his Kamui yet? >__>

Because Kamui was revealed later dude :|.... Kamui requires a lot of chakra right? So why Kamui shouldn't be a risky power for it's user? I'm tired of this plot>logic situation... Let's just wait and see who is right at the end I guess. Everything else are assumptions, therefore I prefer another strategy than Kamui...
 

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Because Kamui was revealed later dude :|.... Kamui requires a lot of chakra right? So why Kamui shouldn't be a risky power for it's user? I'm tired of this plot>logic situation... Let's just wait and see who is right at the end I guess. Everything else are assumptions, therefore I prefer another strategy than Kamui...

First off, Kakashi wouldnt even know about the blindness because it doesn't start until the Mangekyou powers have been used multiple times.

Second, Kakashi said he noticed that Itachi grabbed his head from pain and immediately left after using Tsukuyomi.

Kakashi learned about the eye sight deteriorating through his own perception of things, which is what any logical person would see in that conversation.

FAIL!
 

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First off, Kakashi wouldnt even know about the blindness because it doesn't start until the Mangekyou powers have been used multiple times.

Second, Kakashi said he noticed that Itachi grabbed his head from pain and immediately left after using Tsukuyomi.

Kakashi learned about the eye sight deteriorating through his own perception of things, which is what any logical person would see in that conversation.

FAIL!

You actually agree with me. Kakashi experience it on his own while fighting Deidara...
Now I'm not sure if he did use his eye before their second met, actually it's Kishi's fault that Kakashi waited for so long to use his MS.
The blindness ever start from the moment we saw the flashback of Rin's death.

Kakashi just certify his own theory seeing Itachi's pain and what Kisame said help him a lot...
 
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He would be able to sever their connection with the Juubi if he attacked with a Raikiri forcing them to dodge, which was the alliance's strategy in the last chapter, to cut of the 'head', Obito and Madara.

Not really. Obito can just go intangible while Madara defends him.
 

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You actually agree with me. Kakashi experience it on his own while fighting Deidara...
Now I'm not sure if he did use his eye before their second met, actually it's Kishi's fault that Kakashi waited for so long to use his MS.
The blindness ever start from the moment we saw the flashback of Rin's death.

Kakashi just certify his own theory seeing Itachi's pain and what Kisame said help him a lot...

No I'm not! His own perception of his first encounter with Itachi! That is how he came up with it.
 

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Kakashi is indeed the key to stop the Juubi, but Kamui isn't needed.

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