Sharingan really watered down the ninja them of Naruto

[FemmeFatale]

I dont think that is the case.
I think its mostly plot.

By Part 1 hype + current abilities.
Sakura have but the uchiha to shame.

With her genjutsu affinty, perfect chakra contol, sharp eye's, and keen eyes.
That in conjuction with her byakugou reserves.

As Kakashi said, if you can perfect your chakra control she should be able to master any jutsu.
And she learns jutsu instantly.

 

[Remedy]

Don't be afraid of getting harped on for stating your opinion if someone does that they are a fool. I personally don't like Naruto despite it's flawed since it's final archs where so ****ing anti climactic and I could not no matter how hard I tried find a way to actually care about anything that happened after kaguya showed up. And don't even get me say attend on the put if focus random ending that felt like it was an ending to a completely diffrent series. I never seen something so anticlimactic in my life.

And why did Kishi have to get so pretensous with his writing by bringing on the world peace theme. And almost every villian (besides orochimaru and a few akatsuki members) feel like a copy and paste of each other. They are always the "has good intentions but is going about It the wrong way" type of villain (he really ****ed Madara up when he made him this kind of villain). And holy shit did he over use the manipulation card between the villains.

In short Naruto just felt like a waste of my time(and it was a big chink of my time which makes it even worse) it started out good but since he end result was dissapionting it invalidates anything I liked about it to begin with.

I actually don't mind those types of villains, but it's all about balance. A lot of people say Naruto didn't have enough "I was born evil villains" but some say those types of villains are one dimensional, then again, it's all preference. I can say growing up on DBZ as my gateway to anime, I was certainly use to those types, but branching out and watching different animes, I can accept villains and their motivations for what it is.

 

[arv993]

Honestly Uchiha were broken since the beginning. Eyes that can change reality, copy techniques, learn taijutsu that took people years to learn in like a month, cast genjutsu superior to basic genjutsu, read moves in taijutsu, etc. No other clan received even half of the development the Uchiha did, even the superior clan (senju) is nearly unknown until the latter part of part 1 with Tsunade, Hashirama, and Tobirama as representatives.

senju is not a superior clan its just hashirama>madara that tipped the scales. the newer generations of uchiha utterly shit on senju. uchiha clan overall produced the most broken ninja in the series.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

I actually don't mind those types of villains, but it's all about balance. A lot of people say Naruto didn't have enough "I was born evil villains" but some say those types of villains are one dimensional, then again, it's all preference. I can say growing up on DBZ as my gateway to anime, I was certainly use to those types, but branching out and watching different animes, I can accept villains and their motivations for what it is.

I think Kaguya was made to satisfy those who wanted one dimensional villains but Kishi went way too far with her.

 

[Lord Tywin]

What hit people today that they suddenly started noting the down sides of the manga?

 

[Da Best Ever]

Yes, part one sharingan was balanced, Shippuden was when it went south. Senju could beat Uchiha figuring that they were decedents of a godly family tree with really strong bodies.

Not true...

Part 1 the only sharingan users we knew of was a kid sasuke and a non uchiha itachi neither were good representations of what sharingan power is...not until we later saw itachi shit stomp the none Uchiha kakashi and their we finally saw how powerful Uchiha can be.


Your view is singular and one sided. You didn'tbreak this stuff down. All you did was complain about part 2 power ups and say part 1 sharingan users were normal when we only ever saw 3 sharingan users and 3 people don't represent a whole especially when 1 of the 3 was a kid and another was a none uchiha who can't wield it properly.


We saw REAL Uchiha power when itachi came in part 1

 

[Gintoki Sakata]

Retard..senju are descendants of Ashura who represents the body...Uchiha descendants of Indra who represent the eyes


Senju=body

Uchiha= ocular power

Senju has ridiculous stamina, chakra, life force, durability.


Look at what senju dna did for obito and madara

heck almost any clan could solo random fodder's with the sharingan so really doesn't matter

 

[V h o]

senju is not a superior clan its just hashirama>madara that tipped the scales. the newer generations of uchiha utterly shit on senju. uchiha clan overall produced the most broken ninja in the series.

The Uchiha did lose the war against the senju. Hashirama was not soloing the war....

 

[Tarinth]

I personally enjoyed the giant 'megazord' battles with the Susanoo and Bijuu Avatars.
Although, I'll be the first to admit that it did completely destroy the ninja theme. In fact,
power scaling went completely ridiculous during the War Arc. It went from many strong
shinobi using their minds with only the SO6P in legend form being truly OP by forming the moon
to everybody having to have at least city level decimating attacks to not be considered complete
fodder.

 

[Remedy]

Not true...

Part 1 the only sharingan users we knew of was a kid sasuke and a non uchiha itachi neither were good representations of what sharingan power is...not until we later saw itachi shit stomp the none Uchiha kakashi and their we finally saw how powerful Uchiha can be.


Your view is singular and one sided. You didn'tbreak this stuff down. All you did was complain about part 2 power ups and say part 1 sharingan users were normal when we only ever saw 3 sharingan users and 3 people don't represent a whole especially when 1 of the 3 was a kid and another was a none uchiha who can't wield it properly.


We saw REAL Uchiha power when itachi came in part 1

Yeah, but taking out one Jounin took a toll on Itachi, and there was characters who we could imagine that could compete, I.e. Jiriaya. Now were in part 2, and how many Itachi turds do you see in vs threads using Yata and Totsuka as the universal denominator?

 

[arv993]

The Uchiha did lose the war against the senju. Hashirama was not soloing the war....

they lost by the fact that hashirama and tobirama were better than counter parts . yes hashi and tobirama as a whole>>> rest of the senju

the times b4 hashi their dads were equal and they stalemated

this 4th shinobi war is proof that quality especially on the likes of hashirama and tobirama makes a bigger difference than a bunch of fodders.

 

[Da Best Ever]

You do realize the Tenseigan's feats far surpass any form of the Sharingan, right ? And no, Rennigan is not a form of the sharingan, it's a separate dojutsu.

Fail you can't get the rinnegan without the sharingan.


Also tenseigan feats are not greater than any sharingan.

Tenseigan: split the moon

Kamui alone is a better feat kamui has open dimensions to different realities and was the actual only damaging jutsu to harm kaguya..kamui raikiri

Sharingan has created the most op and haxed jutsu.

 

[Remedy]

I personally enjoyed the giant 'megazord' battles with the Susanoo and Bijuu Avatars.
Although, I'll be the first to admit that it did completely destroy the ninja theme. In fact,
power scaling went completely ridiculous during the War Arc. It went from many strong
shinobi using their minds with only the SO6P in legend form being truly OP by forming the moon
to everybody having to have at least city level decimating attacks to not be considered complete
fodder.

You hit the nail on the head! Exactly.

 

[ninjarasengan]

well, Kishimoto was trying to distance himself from the generic Ninja theme from the get-go...guess he succeeded.

 

[Bling Kai]

I actually don't mind those types of villains, but it's all about balance. A lot of people say Naruto didn't have enough "I was born evil villains" but some say those types of villains are one dimensional, then again, it's all preference. I can say growing up on DBZ as my gateway to anime, I was certainly use to those types, but branching out and watching different animes, I can accept villains and their motivations for what it is.

I don't mind them either, but these particular villains where pretty much the exact same they all wanted world peace but whent about it the wrong way when most of the major villains are almost the exact same it's not very interesting. And then kishi made Madara out to be a villain that was supposed to be a villain with good intentions but went about it wrong, but he didn't actually do anything wrong wich is a fundamental problem because Kishi made The heroes in the story try and stop him why are they trying to stop his plan when they can't even prove it's a bad thing? It just creates so many fundamental problems in the story. The only major villain I really enjoyed was pain and ESCPECIALLY orochimaru.

Also about The DBZ villains, The only canon villain in DBZ that was born evil is buu all the other villains do have explanations as to why they are the way they are.

 

[V h o]

they lost by the fact that hashirama and tobirama were better than counter parts . yes hashi and tobirama as a whole>>> rest of the senju

the times b4 hashi their dads were equal and they stalemated

._. I don't feel like arguing this. Senju have a feat of beating the Uchiha in war, hashirama and tobirama were not the only ones fighting against the uchiha.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Tenseigan OMG, let's not get carried away. Lol

lolololol son,with tesnigan you can bust moons if not planets,you also get to have the Truth Seeking Balls,and most of all you get to summon a beast that is close to kurama in raw power


OT:agree

 

[Da Best Ever]

The Uchiha did lose the war against the senju. Hashirama was not soloing the war....

They showed in the flash backs izuna and madara losing to tobirama and hashi. When izuna died and madara came back with ems hashirama nearly killed him. At that time Uchiha were seen surrendering proving with both leaders losing they can't win.


To simplify

Senju clan members vs Uchiha clan members are equal

The difference is...

Tobirama>izuna


And

Hashi>madara

Like that guy just said hashi and tobirama tipped the scales.

 

[Opiuchus05]

Well destroying them early did not really make them die down in the story.

So.the other uchihas that were left were there for sasukes and narutos development like itachi,obito,and if you considered revived Madara
They have bigger roles in naruto and sasukes development then the other clans since they're related and that's what side characters are for, character development for the main characters
The other clans like most of the k11 only get brought up when it's for naruto and sasukes development

 

[LordRaikage]

complete agree it almost completely ruined the anime for me.