Sharingan ranks

[AllKnowingShinobi]

1T- genin ehh
2T- chunin during the exams we all know sasuke should've became a chunin like neji or rather shikamaru
3T- chunin- jonin- **** yo bijuu state 1 tail
MS- jonin/anbu - sub par kage (sasuke killed danzo who is respecfully kage lvl also would have ended rikages life as a whole person dude would be in a wheel chiar like guy.
Ems- kage- bijuu
Rinningan- leaf village destruction. Plantary lvl techs(giant fireballs, giant avatar, giant gen jutsu, giant everything, a whole new bar.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

:lol what?

How is Ms jonin anbu level when tobi killed yagura and controlled yagura?
Even Sasuke was fighting 2 kages at the same time with Ms while killing Danzo a few moments later.

3 tomoe Sasuke killed Deidara, who is an S class Akatsuki member consisting of members stronger than a jinchuuriki and a kage.

This list doesn't make much sense bro.

 

[Ansatsuken]

1t - E
2t - Em
3t - Emo
MS - Emoji

 

[FuriouslAngel]

1t - E
2t - Em
3t - Emo
MS - Emoji

 

[FuriouslAngel]

MS-Kage lvl+

 

[Exaar]

:lol what?

How is Ms jonin anbu level when tobi killed yagura and controlled yagura?
Even Sasuke was fighting 2 kages at the same time with Ms while killing Danzo a few moments later.

3 tomoe Sasuke killed Deidara, who is an S class Akatsuki member consisting of members stronger than a jinchuuriki and a kage.

This list doesn't make much sense bro.

I think he is talking about in general, Sasuke/obito/madara/itachi is hardly normal cases

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I think he is talking about in general, Sasuke/obito/madara/itachi is hardly normal cases

They're the only ones we've seen. So what do you have that sets them above the rest when we haven't seen anyone else? You're just speculating.

 

[sayian]

1t-genin
2t-chuunin
3t- low-high jounin by default
MS- low- mid kage lvl by default
ems - high kage lvl- low six path lvl by default
false rinnegan - high kage lvl -low six path lvl by default
true rinnegan - mid- high six path level by default.
ems + rinnegan - high six path lvl (this applies to madara too)


by default- just means the eye itself. obviously give 3t to itachi and he would be low kage lvl instead of jounin.

 

[NBA YoungBoy]

1T- genin ehh
2T- chunin during the exams we all know sasuke should've became a chunin like neji or rather shikamaru
3T- chunin- jonin- **** yo bijuu state 1 tail
MS- jonin/anbu - sub par kage (sasuke killed danzo who is respecfully kage lvl also would have ended rikages life as a whole person dude would be in a wheel chiar like guy.
Ems- kage- bijuu
Rinningan- leaf village destruction. Plantary lvl techs(giant fireballs, giant avatar, giant gen jutsu, giant everything, a whole new bar.

A little off its really on the user what rank he would be at cuz a kid 3 tomoe itachi was anbu captain while sasuke was about low kage level with 3tomoe and oro absorbed he did beat deidara who is s class and easily kage level also kakashi was a world renowned ninja arguably the most famous shinobi ever with just 3 tomoe... Also 3 tomoe automatically makes the user bijuu level due to it being able to control the bijuu

Also ms is above average kage level there is not a single kage outside of hashirama and Minato and maybe tobirama that can beat any ms user

 

[KidGamer65]

This doesn't even make sense till we get to MS and above. 1-3 Tomoe Sharingan all do nothing but enhance the user's already existing capabilities.

A mastered MS makes you High Kage level by default. Every single MS user in the series has displayed High Kage level feats.

-Shin was working over Adult Sakura.
-Shisui was near Itachi's level.
-Itachi is a given.
-Sasuke without a matured Mangekyo tied with Ay, pressured Kakashi despite him having Kamui and defeated Danzo.
-Obito at 14 was taking on Minato with just one of his Mangekyo let alone both.


A mastered EMS puts you on the level of the Bijuu and above that of the Gokage. In Sasuke and Madara's case it puts you on either Half or Full Kurama's level which is far above the other Bijuu.

A mastered Rinnegan puts you a tier under Juubi Jinchuuriki.

 

[sayian]

This doesn't even make sense till we get to MS and above. 1-3 Tomoe Sharingan all do nothing but enhance the user's already existing capabilities.

A mastered MS makes you High Kage level by default. Every single MS user in the series has displayed High Kage level feats.

-Shin was working over Adult Sakura.
-Shisui was near Itachi's level.
-Itachi is a given.
-Sasuke without a matured Mangekyo tied with Ay, pressured Kakashi despite him having Kamui and defeated Danzo.
-Obito at 14 was taking on Minato with just one of his Mangekyo let alone both.


A mastered EMS puts you on the level of the Bijuu and above that of the Gokage. In Sasuke and Madara's case it puts you on either Half or Full Kurama's level which is far above the other Bijuu.

A mastered Rinnegan puts you a tier under Juubi Jinchuuriki.

What do you qualify high kage lvl? I put ms at mid because of tobirama, 7G gai and minato seem to be above it.

 

[KidGamer65]

What do you qualify high kage lvl? I put ms at mid because of tobirama and minato seem to be above it.

I actually put them below MS users in overall power. (Not Tobirama if he has ET) They'd have a better chance in a fight though because of the nature of their techs, but I put matured MS users on par with KCM Naruto who is comfortably above both Tobirama w/o ET and Minato. KCM is high Kage based on his feats in the war.

-DMS Obito>>>KCM Naruto>Minato and Tobirama.
-KCM Naruto>=MS Itachi>=Matured MS Sasuke>Tobirama>Minato.
-MS Madara is somewhere between Itachi and Sasuke in power.
-Shisui is on par w/ Sasuke and Itachi if mastery of 2 MS does grant a Susanoo.
-Shin doesn't count in this comparison. He's the only MS user who can be argued to be mid Kage.

The main reason MS Itachi and Sasuke would lose to KCM Naruto is because MS drains a lot of stamina, not power.

 

[Exaar]

They're the only ones we've seen. So what do you have that sets them above the rest when we haven't seen anyone else? You're just speculating.

Well considering Madara/Sasuke are indra's reincarnation
Oro who was said to be a genius that only comes once every few decades praising sasuke and saying him being called a genius was pitiful compared to sasuke.
Itachi's hype of being a genius even among the uchiha
obito being trained by madara and roided up oh hashi dna.

It's not exactly hard to see why they would easily outstrip other uchiha's who have 3tomoe/ms and so on.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Well considering Madara/Sasuke are indra's reincarnation
Oro who was said to be a genius that only comes once every few decades praising sasuke and saying him being called a genius was pitiful compared to sasuke.
Itachi's hype of being a genius even among the uchiha
obito being trained by madara and roided up oh hashi dna.

It's not exactly hard to see why they would easily outstrip other uchiha's who have 3tomoe/ms and so on.

Well for one all the uchiha's are considered geniuses, and not once did Orochimaru excluded Itachi's intelligence from the rest of the clan. He simply said he was stronger than him.

Next. Sasuke and Madara are transmigrants, but that only effects their latent potential. Ms Itachi vs the like of Ms Madara would end in Ms madara getting his ass handed to him everyday of the week. Even Itachi was above Ms Sasuke in some aspects despite all the counters Sasuke had towards Itachi's mangekyo powers with his mangekyo powers.
So being Indra transmigrant means potential rinnegan, the rest is something that can be worked on.
Obito being trained by madara really doesn't speak much, especially when tobito does not use his wood style abilities in a fight only just his mangekyo powers. And considering the other powers tobito gained after combining his uchiha powers with his senju which people don't even dignify that to be true in the first place, his mangekyo power alone carried him to single handily fight 2 hokages at the same time and kill 2 anbu bodyguard jonins. (I won't count yagura because off panel.)

So no they did not outstrip any other ms users because we haven't seen any other ms users in battle (for the second time).
Shisui himself was said to be on itachi's level or stronger and Sasuke's dad "the wicked eye" was said to be at least as strong and accomplished as minato during the third war.

 

[Retsu]

:lol what?

How is Ms jonin anbu level when tobi killed yagura and controlled yagura?
Even Sasuke was fighting 2 kages at the same time with Ms while killing Danzo a few moments later.

3 tomoe Sasuke killed Deidara, who is an S class Akatsuki member consisting of members stronger than a jinchuuriki and a kage.

This list doesn't make much sense bro.

Shin had ms and got rocked tho

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Shin had ms and got rocked tho

You mean the fake ms fake uchiha shin? I wouldn't use him as an example considering that he did to Naruto and Sasuke. The whole thing didn't make sense.

How about you look at Ms Kakashi? He was stronger than he was when he was Hokage. I think that should be enough.

 

[Retsu]

He was central to plot and had arguably the most powerful ms ability at his disposal. That's like me saying all senju are op cuz hashirama is op.

 

[lndra]

Hebi Sasuke was low kage /w a 3T Sharingan

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

He was central to plot and had arguably the most powerful ms ability at his disposal. That's like me saying all senju are op cuz hashirama is op.

Kakashi was limited to his use of kamui during the beginning and he was still stronger. But I'm not sure on specifically what you meant by the senju example?

How about Danzo? He wasn't able to use the mangekyo nearly as good as kakashi and the senju tissues helped him to maintain the sharingan, he was unable to use the senju cells in a fight.
So Danzo? The one that fought Sasuke and couldn't use the mangekyo sharingan, what about him?

 

[Exaar]

Well for one all the uchiha's are considered geniuses, and not once did Orochimaru excluded Itachi's intelligence from the rest of the clan. He simply said he was stronger than him.

Didn't say Oro did, Many others did

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Next. Sasuke and Madara are transmigrants, but that only effects their latent potential. Ms Itachi vs the like of Ms Madara would end in Ms madara getting his ass handed to him everyday of the week.

Maybe as we've seen nothing of MS madara but as you said that's just speculation is it not?

Even Itachi was above Ms Sasuke in some aspects despite all the counters Sasuke had towards Itachi's mangekyo powers with his mangekyo powers.

Itachi had Ms for like almost a decade, sasuke wore his out in mere weeks/months.

also madara said sasukle's got a "straight pattern" which i assume is down to him being indras reincarnation considering madara's reaction to sensing it.

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Obito being trained by madara really doesn't speak much, especially when tobito does not use his wood style abilities in a fight only just his mangekyo powers. And considering the other powers tobito gained after combining his uchiha powers with his senju which people don't even dignify that to be true in the first place, his mangekyo power alone carried him to single handily fight 2 hokages at the same time and kill 2 anbu bodyguard jonins. (I won't count yagura because off panel.)

Doesn't matter if he doesn't actively uses mokuton, just having hashirama's cells is boost, look at what it did for danzo and shisui's eyes, let alone having half of your body made out of the stuff.
Plus lucking out of getting one of the most broken MS techniques in the manga.

So no they did not outstrip any other ms users because we haven't seen any other ms users in battle (for the second time).
Shisui himself was said to be on itachi's level or stronger and Sasuke's dad "the wicked eye" was said to be at least as strong and accomplished as minato during the third war.

"wicked eye" title is filler from the novels.

shisui was also special for one so young to be one of the most talented in the entire clan at that time

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Knowing these characters and what is said about them, there is no logical reason why they wouldn't outstrip others in their clans