Sharingan is overestimated

[Ansatsuken]

I dont understand what you wanna tell me sorry, but when sharingan and rinnegan users are able to see chakra through big stones than kakashi moves at highspeed underground, because dojutsu users should have noticed him when they can see through objects.

Nagato should have seen through the dust cloud, too.

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I dont know how many time Kishi is failed at utilize standard ability of Sharigan in the fight example is Sharingan ability to see anything unseen by Naked eyes

How many time when Uchiha with Sharingan or even MS activation is shown a panel of them seeing through anything, not to often right

Like when Itachi and Sasuke in the Kabuto cave, that the one of the time Kishi drawing a panel that sharigan can see through something

But look at the rest of Uchiha fighting panel, most of the chapters we had read before is involving Uchiha and MS right. most of it. But how often Kishi showing Madara see through chakra or movement or anything from MS. Where is the panel.

How often Sasuke use his advanced sharigan to see through anything like Kaguya body or chakra, see Kaguya hiding, see or predict a movement like what data book state. When? non exist right?

Same as the Kakashi case you brought here.

What I want to tell you is that, it is Kishi work that don't drawing a panel of Kakashi or Itachi seeing a movement or chakra.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Nice thread bro

 

[Xāvî1]

Yet everyone wants them uchiha eyes

Specially orochimaru!!

 

[JCW]

Eye is only good as its holder

You're post is meh



Itachi vs sasuke watch it again,

 

[spade3dg]

I think there are a few overassessments about the abilities of the sharingan.

1) Sharingan can see the color of chakra even through objects, walls, the ground and so on...
In my opinion wrong !

The Sharingan is able to see Chakra but unlike the byakugan the line of sight hasn't to be blocked.

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There were objects between the sharingan of Itachi and Kakashis position.
If the sharingan was able to see through objects why itachi was surprised that Kakashi attacks from beneath ?

Sasuke was only able to see deidaras nano bombs because nothing has blocked his line of sight.

Here, even the Rinnegan the advancement of the Sharingan wasn't able to see through the ground/earth.

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pain even looks at the place where kakashi is to come out, but he doesn't see that kakashi created a ration clone and he wasn't able to see that its a clone made of lightning, which leads me to believe that Sharingan and Rinnegan can't even see through the skin. If i am wrong please tell me.

2) Sharingan is able to see through moves even if it doesn't is focused on them.
Wrong

Im talking about taijutsu, if a ninja is to fast for the eye the sharingan user can't predict his movements nor put him into a genjutsu.
The Sharingan is only useful when it can see the opponent and his jutsus/handsigns for an adequate time.
For example the 4 Raikage

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The sharingan was able to see through his move when they moved straight into each other and clashed because it had little more time to see the attack and the attack( elbow) came closer and closer.

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In terms of dodging things Sage mode or sensing is better than the Sharingan, any attack is felt from any point, while the sharingan has to see whats coming after its user.

For many others its obvious, but i still read such things.

.... dafuq did you just say? No really. I barely understood what you wtote

 

[Glad Of War]

No. Madara can use Susano'o without eyes because he already unlocked the special chakra in his brain, and Susano'o doesn't require eye contact. Nagato doesn't have that chakra, so he'd need to revert to the Mangekyou Sharingan, which isn't possible with a transplant.

Yea I knw.
But Rinnegan > Sharingan!

 

[ATD]

Nice thread bro

Thank you, but i failed in point 1.
Sharingan and rinnegan are able to see through objects...

 

[ATD]

I dont know how many time Kishi is failed at utilize standard ability of Sharigan in the fight example is Sharingan ability to see anything unseen by Naked eyes

How many time when Uchiha with Sharingan or even MS activation is shown a panel of them seeing through anything, not to often right

Like when Itachi and Sasuke in the Kabuto cave, that the one of the time Kishi drawing a panel that sharigan can see through something

But look at the rest of Uchiha fighting panel, most of the chapters we had read before is involving Uchiha and MS right. most of it. But how often Kishi showing Madara see through chakra or movement or anything from MS. Where is the panel.

How often Sasuke use his advanced sharigan to see through anything like Kaguya body or chakra, see Kaguya hiding, see or predict a movement like what data book state. When? non exist right?

Same as the Kakashi case you brought here.

What I want to tell you is that, it is Kishi work that don't drawing a panel of Kakashi or Itachi seeing a movement or chakra.

when i understood it correctly you mean that kishi often seems to forget about the abilities of sharingan and sometimes he remembers that the sharingan has more advantages than in other moments he showed.

I also think kishi made mistakes which is forgivable cause he draws really a complex manga, but in the ends its contradictory

 

[Ansatsuken]

when i understood it correctly you mean that kishi often seems to forget about the abilities of sharingan and sometimes he remembers that the sharingan in one moments has more advantages than in other moments he showed.

I also think kishi made mistakes which is forgivable cause he draws really a complex manga.

Yes, agreed

 

[Solo]

My mistake, i forgot about that,but that means Kakashi moves so damn fast underground when Sharingan and Rinnegan users weren't able to detect him even though they were able to see through objects.
Otherwise i see the manga is contradictory.

If the person isn't in their line of sight, they won't see them. An underground attack will work, but if they're not paying attention to the ground, they won't see the attack. Like the Neji vs Naruto fight. If he had kept his Byakugan active, he would have saw Naruto.

The Sharingan doesn't see "things", it sees chakra.

 

[ATD]

If the person isn't in their line of sight, they won't see them. An underground attack will work, but if they're not paying attention to the ground, they won't see the attack. Like the Neji vs Naruto fight. If he had kept his Byakugan active, he would have saw Naruto.

The Sharingan doesn't see "things", it sees chakra.

I think you could be right. sasuke and Itachi only saw the snakes which could be completely made out of chakra, in contrast ninjas only have chakra system inside their body which is lapped with flesh and skin, it could be true that the skin of a human hides the chakra from any dojutsus except byakugan, but its just an assumption...

 

[Harsh srivastava]

yupp. narutos reflexes are best even without sharingan

 

[AlphaScythian]

Sasuke saw bombs underground and in his body.
Both ground and body block the sight. So your wrong there.

As far as fast movement go of course something has to be in his vision angle but the pregog is better then sensing in this condition.

Sensing is sure better when it comes to attacks from blind spots. But sensing is not so reliable, we have many examples of when it failed as opposed to sharingan.

 

[miino]

Don't give me that bullsh*t.
You do realize Rinnegan users can do also use Perfect Susanoo?
Limbo
Gedo Mazo
Preta path
Deva path
Human
Animal path
Body flicker justu..
6 paths reincarnation
Rinne Tensei
Chibaku tensei
Bansho tensei
Rinnegan users can Bascially perform any justu they desires...

a rinnegan user can not use perfect susanoo unless he is an uchiha!
a rinnegan user has the ability to MASTER any jutsu (not perform).
in the other hand the copy ninja kakashi can somehow perform most of the jutsus he sees
uchiha's sharingan's abilities can not be copied (amaterasu,kamui,tsukyumi...)
dude I agree that rinnegan>sharingan
but manga keeps shwoing that sharingan is so op

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Indeed.

The Sharingan didn't stop anyone from getting beaten by a non-Sharingan user.

Yet everyone wants them uchiha eyes

Any extra power is great.