Sharingan can copy kkg and kkt

[Zawerni]

Also ,I never said anyone who has mastered water and earth nature's would be able to use mokuton. I said it would be possible for a sharingan user to copy a mokuton jutsu if the user had learned earth and water nature transformations.

Doesn't work like that.

If an ordinary person can't perform a technique, giving them a Sharingan will not allow them to magically use that technique. Sharingan can only copy techniques the user has the ability to replicate. If the Sharingan user can't use Mokuton, then they can't copy Mokuton.

 

[God Of NarutoBase]

Yes it does. Genetic mutation is why humans have chakra in the first place. It is the reason why Hagoromo nor Hamura have the RinneSharingan. It is also why Hashirama is the only person in his clan to possess Wood Style.

You're just making this all up and it makes no sense at all and no matter how you put it genetic mutation doesn't have anything to do with kkg.

Not exactly. As mentioned above, genetic mutations.

Still not a thing...

Not every family is or is part of a clan. Clans are only formed for war purposes. For you to restrict the migration of people is foolish. You would also need to account for genetic mutation once again, which would specifically mean that two people from completely different families can have the same bloodline limit.

As I've said, mutation isnt a thing for kkg . With what you're implying any random person in the naruto can awaken mokuton kkg or sharingan kkg because of genetic "mutations"(something you came up with.) .

Clans were not formed for war purposes. The naruto world uses a clan system and most of the people belong to a certain clan. Most of the kkg we've seen are tied to clans
and though some may leave their clans but they still carry their clan names.

Some clans are related to each other through a common ancestor,such as the senju and uzumaki clans ,that would mean a kkg ability can be passed within related clans. But clans/families that are related are.usually in the same xillage or country.

Ninjas in entirely different Continents cannot possibly descended from the same ancestor thereby attributing their possession of the same kkg ability to another thing other than genetics.

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Well,i'll admit I'm wrong when you show me kakashi using elemental nature's (other than lightning and earth?),which wasn't gotten from sharingan copy ability..

 

[God Of NarutoBase]

Doesn't work like that.

If an ordinary person can't perform a technique, giving them a Sharingan will not allow them to magically use that technique. Sharingan can only copy techniques the user has the ability to replicate. If the Sharingan user can't use Mokuton, then they can't copy Mokuton.

Maybe,Maybe not. Is there a place in the manga/databook explaining why sharingan can't copy kkg?

 

[Zawerni]

Maybe,Maybe not. Is there a place in the manga/databook explaining why sharingan can't copy kkg?

There's no maybe, that's how it works.

First Databook for Sharingan states it's copy ability can only copy techniques if the user has the ability to use the technique. Just having Water and Earth Release doesn't give the ability to use Wood Release. You need the necessary bloodline to use the Kekkei Genkai.

Sharingan can't copy genes.

 

[SenseiSama]

Don't take it so literal.

It's like hiruzen knowing all Jutsu's in the leaf, By saying that they mean all learnable jutsu's not literally every jutsu. Same in this case.

Hiruzen knowing all jutsu is literal, just because we haven't seen him in his prime doesn't make it not true

 

[Holy God]

You're just making this all up and it makes no sense at all and no matter how you put it genetic mutation doesn't have anything to do with kkg.

This is just pure denial. Genetic mutation isn't made up. You said a "kkg user must be at least a decendant of a line with that ability", and yet, there are plenty of examples such as Hagoromo, Indra, and Hashirama who have attained an ability no one previously had. Do you know why? Genetic mutation. Why do you think Naruto has actual whiskers? His genes were mutated by Kurama's chakra.

As I've said, mutation isnt a thing for kkg . With what you're implying any random person in the naruto can awaken mokuton kkg or sharingan kkg because of genetic "mutations"(something you came up with.) .

No, you just don't understand what it means. No random person has a chance at awakening the Sharingan because that type of genetic mutation would involve too many changes in the DNA to be considered possible by luck. Just like in reality, were gene mutation is undeniably true, that doesn't mean a child could be born to two human parents and come out with enough DNA changed to have wings, but they can attain rare diseases that*pertain to a certain degree.

Clans were not formed for war purposes. The naruto world uses a clan system and most of the people belong to a certain clan. Most of the kkg we've seen are tied to clans
and though some may leave their clans but they still carry their clan names.

No. This entire story is based upon war and clans were only formed for that purpose. People who are not in clans, whom there are plenty of, can migrate a they please.

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Some clans are related to each other through a common ancestor,such as the senju and uzumaki clans ,that would mean a kkg ability can be passed within related clans. But clans/families that are related are.usually in the same xillage or country.

Ninjas in entirely different Continents cannot possibly descended from the same ancestor thereby attributing their possession of the same kkg ability to another thing other than genetics.

There once was a man named Hagoromo who shared chakra with the many people who lived around him. After the ever so obvious process of genetic mutation, humans were then allowed to create chakra on their own. What elements and bloodline limits do you think these children with chakra would have? It would differ with each one because of genetics. You can't possibly say they would all have the same abilities because as the world is now, everyone is different, but they all started off with the same chakra from Hagoromo. Are you going to sit there and tell me people with the natural affinity for fire all came from the same family, the Uchiha?

ll admit I'm wrong when you show me kakashi using elemental nature's (other than lightning and earth?),which wasn't gotten from sharingan copy ability..

Just like the first quote in this post, this is pure denial. I can already see arguing with you is pointless if you're just going to deny facts.

 

[SenseiSama]

This is just pure denial. Genetic mutation isn't made up. You said a "kkg user must be at least a decendant of a line with that ability", and yet, there are plenty of examples such as Hagoromo, Indra, and Hashirama who have attained an ability no one previously had. Do you know why? Genetic mutation. Why do you think Naruto has actual whiskers? His genes were mutated by Kurama's chakra.


No, you just don't understand what it means. No random person has a chance at awakening the Sharingan because that type of genetic mutation would involve too many changes in the DNA to be considered possible by luck. Just like in reality, were gene mutation is undeniably true, that doesn't mean a child could be born to two human parents and come out with enough DNA changed to have wings, but they can attain rare diseases that*pertain to a certain degree.



No. This entire story is based upon war and clans were only formed for that purpose. People who are not in clans, whom there are plenty of, can migrate a they please.

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There once was a man named Hagoromo who shared chakra with the many people who lived around him. After the ever so obvious process of genetic mutation, humans were then allowed to create chakra on their own. What elements and bloodline limits do you think these children with chakra would have? It would differ with each one because of genetics. You can't possibly say they would all have the same abilities because as the world is now, everyone is different, but they all started off with the same chakra from Hagoromo. Are you going to sit there and tell me people with the natural affinity for fire all came from the same family, the Uchiha?




Just like the first quote in this post, this is pure denial. I can already see arguing with you is pointless if you're just going to deny facts.

Hashi's Mokuton actually comes from Ashura, it's as you said the bijuu genetically mutates DNA and Hago's children are not only directly related to the Juubi but were also influenced by it due to Hagoromo conceiving them when he was JuubiJin.

The same genetic mutation caused by the Juubi is what led to Uzumaki inheriting chakra chains as a KKG despite it originally being a Gedo Mazo feat.

The reason only Hashi was able to use wood is because the tech is meant to be used by someone with Ashura's level of Yang which only someone from his lineage can inherit. It's why Naruto was the only other one capable of influencing it.

 

[Exaar]

Hiruzen knowing all jutsu is literal, just because we haven't seen him in his prime doesn't make it not true

Obviously it's not literal.

He doesn't have Mokuton, Sharingan based Techniques, Hyuga based techniques because these are based on bloodlines.

 

[Char Aznable]

Obviously it's not literal.

He doesn't have Mokuton, Sharingan based Techniques, Hyuga based techniques because these are based on bloodlines.

More importantly, Hiruzen didn't know how to do Edo Tensei, Flying Thunder God, Rasengan, Raikiri, any of the jutsus that require the Gates (Hidden Lotus, Reverse Lotus, Morning Peacock, Afternoon Tiger, Evening Elephant), Chakra Enhanced Strength, medical ninjutsus (chakra scalpel, dead soul, body path derangement, mystic palm) and a whole hose of other jutsus that require specialization or extreme hard work to master.

 

[V h o]

I don't really think so. For some reason just having the nature release doesn't give you a kkg or kkt. Manga didn't really tell why those are so exclusive despite different people having the same kkg (lava release). Perhaps it was just a skill threshold to use it? Idk tbh

 

[Exaar]

More importantly, Hiruzen didn't know how to do Edo Tensei, Flying Thunder God, Rasengan, Raikiri, any of the jutsus that require the Gates (Hidden Lotus, Reverse Lotus, Morning Peacock, Afternoon Tiger, Evening Elephant), Chakra Enhanced Strength, medical ninjutsus (chakra scalpel, dead soul, body path derangement, mystic palm) and a whole hose of other jutsus that require specialization or extreme hard work to master.

Hype says otherwise.
Both Viz manga and Databooks state he knows of and is able to use every jutsu in the leaf, Including Hidden techniques.

The only ones his Manga/databook hype leaves out are obvious kKG

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Jinton isn't genetic though. Muu and Oonoki aren't related at all and he taught him jinton. As far as i know that's the only KKT that isn't a bloodline limit.

is not something you have to be related to by Blood but something you have in you muu / Ōnoki both have the ability to combine three elements

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Kekkei Tota means bloodline selection; selection. Specification isn't required when the literal meaning of the classification infers random selection.

If your genetics aren't compatible to Mu's, the teachings of Jinton will be fruitless.

I just read it you are right

 

[Ansatsuken]

When someone going this far trying to be a stupid people. Do you even read Naruto manga or just being here to fap to Naruto without knowing anything about Naruto manga? Pathetic.

 

[SenseiSama]

That second quote proves my point. Kakashi was lightning natured but still able to copy other high level elemental jutsu. If what your saying was true madara should of been able to do the same(albeit probably at a lower level) someone else mentioned yamato too, he also
Needed hashi cells to be able to use a much crappier version of mokuton. It would of been kind of cool if someone's mangekyo ability would of allowed them and only them to copy kkg

I think that will be Sarada's MS ability because she's a reference to the Hindu goddess of knowledge.

Being able to master all jutsu will back that reference, she can't reach Naruto and Hashi's power level but having thay feat would definitely mean she surpassed the previous generation of Kages in terms of talent/skill rather than power.

One eye to see counters for every jutsu (a feat only her uncle was able to do naturally) and one eye that allows her to copy every jutsu.

 

[Liquid Snake]

yea if the user has all elements theres no reason he cant kakashi damn sure can

 

[NarutoX28]

yea if the user has all elements theres no reason he cant kakashi damn sure can

So Kakashi can copy Yamato's Mokuton yet it's explicitly stated that the only member within Konoha who can wield Mokuton is Yamato? Why the hell did Kakashi need Yamato's support if he could've simply copied Yamato's Mokuton and repressed Kurama's chakra during Naruto's FRS training. It obviously couldn't be copied by Kakashi's own affirmation.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Elemental Kekkei Genkai are the most recessive and almost non-inherited genes in the show, you're either born with the ability to combine elements or not.

That's how it works, Sasuke cannot copy Kekkei Genkai or Kekkei Touta without wielding those abilities himself. The fact that this is even a debate shows how inattentive the Naruto fanbase is as a majority.

 

[Liquid Snake]

So Kakashi can copy Yamato's Mokuton yet it's explicitly stated that the only member within Konoha who can wield Mokuton is Yamato? Why the hell did Kakashi need Yamato's support if he could've simply copied Yamato's Mokuton and repressed Kurama's chakra during Naruto's FRS training. It obviously couldn't be copied by Kakashi's own affirmation.

are u stupid i just said if u can use all elements u should be able to copy it just by weaving the right signs just as every ****ing shinobi was able to use earth jutsu in war arc . if kakashi copies yamatos water sign and earth sign that he uses to make wood its no reason why kakashi couldnt use wood style

 

[whiteboy2345]

the sharingan cannot copy kekkei genkai, jesus f****** christ, stop with the conjecture.

The ability to merge elements is a kekkei genkai, simply having the two elements at your disposal does not mean you can use the kekkei genkai. You have to be born with the ability to merge them. Good lord!


f*** this fanbase, its so uninformed about its own show/manga.