Sharingan can copy kkg and kkt

[Styles]

If Onoki's genetic makeup was compatible to Mu's we can infer why he was capable of learning Jinton -- Therefore canon stays concrete.

It said nothing about them having the same genetics or it being compatible. Fact is fact Jinton isn't a bloodline limit and can be learned by anyone if they have the elements for it. Same as how Muu taught Oonoki.

 

[Exaar]

No,kakashi only had lightning affinity. If I recall correctly, all the times he used jutsu of other natures,they were sharingan copied jutsu. So kakashi would never be able to copy kkg. It's like no one here understood the op

You don't need an affinity for a nature to learn it.

Simply having an affinity for a nature makes it easier to learn because that's the natural element for your chakra. Not having an affinity for a nature just make it much for difficult to learn.

 

[NarutoX28]

It said nothing about them having the same genetics or it being compatible. Fact is fact Jinton isn't a bloodline limit and can be learned by anyone if they have the elements for it. Same as how Muu taught Oonoki.

Except this is exactly what a Kekkei Genkai entails, the only difference is Jinton being a more advanced form of Kekkei Genkai.

That said, there's nothing that contradicts Onoki having a similar genetic structure to Muu either, so it works both ways.

 

[Pretentious]

It said nothing about them having the same genetics or it being compatible. Fact is fact Jinton isn't a bloodline limit and can be learned by anyone if they have the elements for it. Same as how Muu taught Oonoki.

Kekkei Tota means bloodline selection; selection. Specification isn't required when the literal meaning of the classification infers random selection.

If your genetics aren't compatible to Mu's, the teachings of Jinton will be fruitless.

 

[God Of NarutoBase]

Clearly they do as they're listed as kekkei genkai & kekkei tota.

Wow,just wow! Read the manga much?

 

[Pretentious]

Wow,just wow! Read the manga much?

Your lack of comprehension is admissible on the pretense that your mind is quite vacuous.

 

[God Of NarutoBase]

You don't need an affinity for a nature to learn it.

Simply having an affinity for a nature makes it easier to learn because that's the natural element for your chakra. Not having an affinity for a nature just make it much for difficult to learn.

Alright,but what I meant to type was lightning nature and not affinity there. But you still get the point?

 

[BlacLord™]

Not all kkg are genetic and the only kkt in the series isn't even genetic.someone like boruto could learn storm release and if he had the. Sharing an he could likely copy haku ice jutsu.

All KKG/KKT are genetic.

Kekkei Genkai translates to Bloodline Limit, and Kekkei Touta translates to Bloodline Selection. The whole point of those natures is that they are genetic. As for Onoki's statement about Jinton, all he said is that "he passed the secrets", more than likely meaning that he taught him the jutsu, or at a push, "installed" the gene into him. Or both.

If the nature isn't genetic, then it isn't Genkai, Touta or Moura.

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[Styles]

Except this is exactly what a Kekkei Genkai entails, the only difference is Jinton being a more advanced form of Kekkei Genkai.

That said, there's nothing that contradicts Onoki having a similar genetic structure to Muu either, so it works both ways.

If that was the case then. Then why don't Kurotsuchi have it? Or her dad? They're related to Oonoki who in fact isn't related at all to Muu yet still have Jinton. What Muu and Oonoki did is in a way no different than what the 3rd Raikage did when he passed on his black lightning to Darui.

Kekkei Tota means bloodline selection; selection. Specification isn't required when the literal meaning of the classification infers random selection.

If your genetics aren't compatible to Mu's, the teachings of Jinton will be fruitless.

Muu passed on Jinton to Oonoki because he had the elements for it. That's all you need to learn Jinton. Since they're in no way related it isn't because they have the same genetics.

 

[God Of NarutoBase]

Your lack of comprehension is admissible on the pretense that your mind is quite vacuous.

I'm not going be as rude and retaliate to your insult. Just a simple question for you . Since genes are hereditary and are passed within a bloodline and kkg are like genes. Then how do you explain some ninjas with no blood relation possessing the same kekkei genkai/gene?

 

[Pretentious]

If that was the case then. Then why don't Kurotsuchi have it? Or her dad? They're related to Oonoki who in fact isn't related at all to Muu yet still have Jinton. What Muu and Oonoki did is in a way no different than what the 3rd Raikage did when he passed on his black lightning to Darui.

Muu passed on Jinton to Oonoki because he had the elements for it. That's all you need to learn Jinton. Since they're in no way related it isn't because they have the same genetics.

I'm not going be as rude and retaliate to your insult. Just a simple question for you . Since genes are hereditary and are passed within a bloodline and kkg are like genes. Then how do you explain some ninjas with no blood relation possessing the same kekkei genkai/gene?

I never insulted you, I merely made an assertion from a well gathered assumption.

I'm going to make this as short as possible, as I hate cycling through repeated facts. To understand this, one must understand a sliver of how genetics work. However, even that though simplistic isn't required, a simple example should suffice.

Q: My mother, and father have brown eyes -- I have green. Why do I not have brown eyes?

A: Recessive genes.

Q: Why had Onoki's kin not inherited the capability to use Jinton?

A: Insufficient chakra natures i.e. Sasuke & Itachi were of the same blood, yet one possessed lightning, and the other water.

A2: Onoki's genes allowing him to be compatible with Mu's Kekkei Tota Jinton were recessive genes, while the dominant genes were passed on to his kin granting them the inability to perform Dust Release.

Simplistic.

 

[God Of NarutoBase]

I never insulted you, I merely made an assertion from a well gathered assumption.

I'm going to make this as short as possible, as I hate cycling through repeated facts. To understand this, one must understand a sliver of how genetics work. However, even that though simplistic isn't required, a simple example should suffice.

Q: My mother, and father have brown eyes -- I have green. Why do I not have brown eyes?

A: Recessive genes.

Q: Why had Onoki's kin not inherited the capability to use Jinton?

A: Insufficient chakra natures i.e. Sasuke & Itachi were of the same blood, yet one possessed lightning, and the other water.

A2: Onoki's genes allowing him to be compatible with Mu's Kekkei Tota Jinton were recessive genes, while the dominant genes were passed on to his kin granting them the inability to perform Dust Release.

Simplistic.

You still didn't answer my question. I'm pretty sure it was never stated that my and onoki are related in anyway apart from a master-student relation. Then how come they have the same kkt genes if there's no relation at all. And how do you also explain mei terumi having multiple kkg.

 

[Holy God]

Storm release,dust release,lava release and other do not require any genetics. for the elements to mix. And I never said anyone with all elements can use all elemental kkg. I blatantly said a sharingan user with all elemental natures can use all elemental kkg thanks to sharing an copy ability. Honestly what's hard to understand about this?

Yes, they all require certain genetics. You're completely trying to redefine the term "bloodline limit". You're saying that anyone who*has mastered Water Style and Earth Style can use Wood Style, which is blatantly false for the reason that Orochimaru had to create a clone in order to bring it back to*use. A Sharingan isn't going to allow anyone to copy an elemental technique any better whatsoever. It allows you to memorize*movements with*ease. The only movements needed to utilize Wood Style*are the handsigns, which are far too easy a task to replicate. Thus, the reason no one else*could use it, is genetics.

 

[Exaar]

You still didn't answer my question. I'm pretty sure it was never stated that my and onoki are related in anyway apart from a master-student relation. Then how come they have the same kkt genes if there's no relation at all. And how do you also explain mei terumi having multiple kkg.

Simply because it was never stated, Doesn't mean they aren't related, Even distantly. Makes far more sense for them to be related in some shape or form simply because jinton is a Jutsu based on bloodline and it's considered a KKT not a hiden technique.

If Jinton only needed required elements and training it would be labeled a Hiden technique, Like the Nara clans shadow technique, Choji's clans Multi-Size Technique or Ino's clans mind transfer technique.

 

[NarutoX28]

If that was the case then. Then why don't Kurotsuchi have it? Or her dad? They're related to Oonoki who in fact isn't related at all to Muu yet still have Jinton. What Muu and Oonoki did is in a way no different than what the 3rd Raikage did when he passed on his black lightning to Darui.

Same reason why Tsunade didn't inherit Hashirama's Mokuton. It's not guaranteed and given Jinton's rarity, it could possibly be a recessive gene. Either way, Hashirama's DNA was stated to give birth to Mokuton and Tsunade wasn't endowed with such power which suggests that even blood relatives aren't likely to inherit Bloodline Limits.

I don't think that the Black Lightning is a KKG. It's likely a Hiden technique of some sorts.

 

[God Of NarutoBase]

Yes, they all require certain genetics. You're completely trying to redefine the term "bloodline limit". You're saying that anyone who*has mastered Water Style and Earth Style can use Wood Style, which is blatantly false for the reason that Orochimaru had to create a clone in order to bring it back to*use. A Sharingan isn't going to allow anyone to copy an elemental technique any better whatsoever. It allows you to memorize*movements with*ease. The only movements needed to utilize Wood Style*are the handsigns, which are far too easy a task to replicate. Thus, the reason no one else*could use it, is genetics.

No they don't. Do a research! Several cloud ninjas possess storm release and I doubt they're all related. There's also magnet release which some sand ninjas that are not related possess. We also have dust release which onoki and my both possess and they're not related. There's also lava release which ninjas from several villages have been shown possesing and I'm pretty sure they do not have the same ancestor. Explosion release has been seen with ninjas who aren't related. So with all these kkg doesn't necessarily have to do genetics.

Also ,I never said anyone who has mastered water and earth nature's would be able to use mokuton. I said it would be possible for a sharingan user to copy a mokuton jutsu if the user had learned earth and water nature transformations.

 

[God Of NarutoBase]

Simply because it was never stated, Doesn't mean they aren't related, Even distantly. Makes far more sense for them to be related in some shape or form simply because jinton is a Jutsu based on bloodline and it's considered a KKT not a hiden technique.

If Jinton only needed required elements and training it would be labeled a Hiden technique, Like the Nara clans shadow technique, Choji's clans Multi-Size Technique or Ino's clans mind transfer technique.

But the problem here is onoki and mu aren't the only ones. They are others who share no relation and still possess the same kkg. The original definition of kkg has been retconned. It no longer classifies as gentics only. So it's either onoki had jinton because he possessed the required chakta natures or mu gave him some of his cells..

 

[Holy God]

No they don't. Do a research! Several cloud ninjas possess storm release and I doubt they're all related. There's also magnet release which some sand ninjas that are not related possess. We also have dust release which onoki and my both possess and they're not related. There's also lava release which ninjas from several villages have been shown possesing and I'm pretty sure they do not have the same ancestor. Explosion release has been seen with ninjas who aren't related. So with all these kkg doesn't necessarily have to do genetics.

You're thinking far too linearly. Many people in reality have brown eyes but that doesn't mean they are from the same direct family. Similarly, just because two people have the same bloodline limit does not mean they are from the same direct line. You also have to take in genetic mutations, which further increases the likelihood. A specific mutation like the Sharingan would infer family relation, sure, but something as simple as combining two elements can be much more common. Once again, it's been said that bloodline limits are genetic. It's even in the name itself.

Also ,I never said anyone who has mastered water and earth nature's would be able to use mokuton. I said it would be possible for a sharingan user to copy a mokuton jutsu if the user had learned earth and water nature transformations.

I already addressed that. A Sharingan isn't going to change anything. Kakashi himself said that the Sharingan could not replicate Haku's feats, even though Kakashi himself has the ability to use the two individual elements required. The eyes allow him to copy handsigns, but that's simply not enough.

 

[God Of NarutoBase]

You're thinking far too linearly. Many people in reality have brown eyes but that doesn't mean they are from the same direct family. Similarly, just because two people have the same bloodline limit does not mean they are from the same direct line. You also have to take in genetic mutations, which further increases the likelihood. A specific mutation like the Sharingan would infer family relation, sure, but something as simple as combining two elements can be much more common. Once again, it's been said that bloodline limits are genetic. It's even in the name itself.

Well sorry that doesn't apply to in this manga and genetic mutations have nothing to do kkg. As you said yourself it's called bloodlinelimit. So if we go by that the kkg user must be at least a decendant of a line with that ability.. Knowing how the naruto world is based on distinctive clan systems,it's not possible for ninjas from about 2 or 3 different villages with very different clans to have the same ancestor in which they got a kkg from. So that eventually means their kkg isn't based on genetics.

I already addressed that. A Sharingan isn't going to change anything. Kakashi himself said that the Sharingan could not replicate Haku's feats, even though Kakashi himself has the ability to use the two individual elements required. The eyes allow him to copy handsigns, but that's simply not enough.

Are you kidding right now? Since when in this series did kakashi learn to use wind and water elemental nature?

 

[Holy God]

Well sorry that doesn't apply to in this manga and genetic mutations have nothing to do kkg.

Yes it does. Genetic mutation is why humans have chakra in the first place. It is the reason why Hagoromo nor Hamura have the RinneSharingan. It is also why Hashirama is the only person in his clan to possess Wood Style.

As you said yourself it's called bloodlinelimit. So if we go by that the kkg user must be at least a decendant of a line with that ability.

Not exactly. As mentioned above, genetic mutations.

Knowing how the naruto world is based on distinctive clan systems,it's not possible for ninjas from about 2 or 3 different villages with very different clans to have the same ancestor in which they got a kkg from. So that eventually means their kkg isn't based on genetics.

Not every family is or is part of a clan. Clans are only formed for war purposes. For you to restrict the migration of people is foolish. You would also need to account for genetic mutation once again, which would specifically mean that two people from completely different families can have the same bloodline limit.

Are you kidding right now? Since when in this series did kakashi learn to use wind and water elemental nature?

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