Sharingan awakening explained by tobirama not MS

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one thing all of you are forgetting is that tobirama had said he had seen this happen countless times before to uchiha...
Does this mean countless members had awakened MS?, NO! tobirama was speaking specifically of the awakening of the sharingan 1,2, or 3 tomoe, due to stress or trauma.....
The MS is only attainable by the loss of someone dear to you there is no other way, where as the sharingan can be awakened in two ways
oh and did Tobirama ever say this is how you activate the MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN? cause all i seen was that this awakened a power greater then the senju not greater then the OG sharingan
 

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im sure the MS will be explained
 

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From what I recall, it was not marked as power greater that that of the Senju, but that the Uchiha first carried a love greater than that of the Senju before they became bitter.
 

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Well you might be right he maybe talking for base sharingan.Although Obito didn't go through great pain or lost a loved one.He was rather stressed and determined when he awakened his base sharingan. I was wondering since Tobirama saw Sasuke's MS and he recognised it wouldn't he explained the process of obtaining MS that moment??
I hope things get clearer in the next chapters :)
 
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most people have it in their heads that tobirama was meaning how the mangekyou was awakened when all he was meaning was how the sharingan was awakened. The Mangekyou has been explained it is due to the loss of someone very loved by the person in front of those eyes or eye in obito and kakashi's cases.the person with the sharingan has their power with it grow over time and when someone loved dies in sight of those eyes the mangekyou is activated, madara and izuna killing their bestfriends, along with itachi watching shisui die to awaken his, obito and kakashi saw rin die, sasuke watched itachi die which made it to where the story went from only killing your best friend will awaken MS to seeing a loved one die will awaken MS
 
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Well you might be right he maybe talking for base sharingan.Although Obito didn't go through great pain or lost a loved one.He was rather stressed and determined when he awakened his base sharingan. I was wondering since Tobirama saw Sasuke's MS and he recognised it wouldn't he explained the process of obtaining MS that moment??
I hope things get clearer in the next chapters :)

like i said it is due to stress or trauma for the base sharingan to be awakened in obito's case it was fear, in sasuke's case it was trauma from tsukiyomi, these are the only original awakenings we know about. i believe that was for us to see that sasuke had surpassed what normal uchihas were in power and experiences and that the mangekyou had not been stated until that moment meaning we were not talking about it beforehand
 

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Well in Japanese Sharingan means Mirror Wheel Eyes..... so did Kishi/Tobi meant that through emotiona stress the Uchiha awakened Sharingan= eyes which reflected their souls (Thus it can mean any form Sharingan). . . . translations always dont carry the poetic implications.....
 
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