[Discussion] Shanks can control time confirmed?

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We saw in the latest chapter that time manipulation is possible with mastery over Haki.
And since most fans agree that Shanks is the very definition of Haki, this confirms an old theory that Shanks can indeed manipulate time.
 

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I think that's a bit of a stretch, I believe he has all forms of Haki advanced as far as humanly possible. I'm guessing his durability isn't his strongest feature, it's his speed and offensive abilities. His raw strength, speed and perception are on another level entirely, so much so that he is perceived to be as inhuman as the other Yonko.
 

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Seeing further in time is not manipulating time. This is not the first time we've seen Katakuri's ability either, so if it wasn't "confirmed" in previous chapters, why the hell would it be in this one?
 

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Confirmed eh??? plz do give me Oda's private number....
 

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Seeing further in time is not manipulating time. This is not the first time we've seen Katakuri's ability either, so if it wasn't "confirmed" in previous chapters, why the hell would it be in this one?

But Katakuri knew exactly what the organ donor was going to say.
 

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I would like to see usppo when that kind of observation haki. I mean he by far must have the best observation in the SH with the whole sugar thing. That range tho was insane and he had a glimpse of him if he would've missed the shot in the anime.
 

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Knowing the future and controlling time are different. How are they same?

Idk man.
But Shanks appeared instantly to save Luffy from the sea king and Coby from Akainu.
Either its time manipulation or Shanks has trained with Minato.
 

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It has in no way been confirmed. SO this post is a bit of a reach, but i like that theory, that Shanks has even stronger observation Haki and can somehow basically have a ridiculous precognition. Thats a good theory but we have nothing to confirm it, we only have katakuri being able to do it for an unspecified, short period of time.
 

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Idk man.
But Shanks appeared instantly to save Luffy from the sea king and Coby from Akainu.
Either its time manipulation or Shanks has trained with Minato.

Never trust a thread that has "confirmed" in the title as you can be certain that whatever is supposed to be confirmed isn't remotely confirmed.

For starters time manipulation is something quite of a different nature than what Dogtooth did. In the end he didn't even do anything inherently different than what the CoO allows normally, which is able to anticipate on attacks just before they are even launched by the attacker. Dogtooth simply can extend that period for a few seconds. Most likely it's probably not so much that he can actually see the future, but instinctively understands how a scene would unfold in the next couple of seconds.

Secondly Dogtooth himself can already be considered to be highly adept in using CoO, pretty much a master. Shanks being a Yonkou might mean that he's even better at it than Dogtooth, however even for a Yonkou making such a huge leap from a few seconds to a time lord is flat out ridiculous.

Lastly you would think that a guy who apparently can control time would have been able to save Luffy from a 13th rate monster without the loss of an arm...or in fact would have been able to completely avoid that situation altogether and same thing with the War of the Best. I also don't get why you are apparently shocked about Shanks being able to save Coby from Akainu and limit that to either time manipulation or teleportation while a scene like this is quite common in any kind of battle manga. In fact it happened several times in the chapters preceding the chapter where Shanks blocks Akainu's attack as both Ace and Jinbei did the exact same thing, albeit less efficiently.

This chapter confirms absolutely nothing in regards to Shanks, let alone time manipulation.
 

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seeing the future = time manipulation confirmed XD

also, this is not hte first time someone saw the future, so I guess time manipulation was confirmed a while ago
 
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