[Discussion] Shanks, BB, Zoro, Mihawk, Shiryuu theory

[ziggyZ]

Firstly, let me say that BB is the weakest Emperor. And Akagami is either the strongest character or equal with the likes of Dragon, Kong, Gorosei (not all time just those who are alive). Why? Once BB got the power of WB, he stated

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"sinking marineford" but what happens then?

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"It's not the time to fight you." This shows that even though BB was willing to destroy MF, he bitches it when Akagami rocks up, implying that BB acknowledged Akagami and knew while having the (arguablly) 2 strongest DF's, he can't handle Akagami yet. Providing enough claim to support the theory of him being strongest. He clashed with WB and it opened the sky which shows that with one arm he can do so much. This man's spirit is so strong that it
can damage the Moby ****. As for the others who I believe are equal first, they are just based on other points and specualtion but that's for a different time.

Now for Zoro's part:
I believe that he won't fight Hawky in a war or crew battle (EL, MF ETC...), but he'll fight him with the rest of the crew spectating.Just like the Barratie arc. Why? This is how I see it. Zoro will do something incredible or show feats that'll amaze Hawky and then he'll finally decide that Zoro deserves another shot. He will personally go find him and they'll meet on an island or they'll see eachother of their boats and stop at an island. With the others watching on, they'll fight for however long and Zoro will prevail but he won't die.

Now BB's part:
Eventually he'll finally go insearch of Akagami so he can finally fight him. Akagami will know of Shiryuu and he'll ask Hawky to help him since as respect for him

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(he doesn't want to fight Akagami due to a mutual bond). And obviously BB will kill him and thus becoming the strongest.

Lastly Shiryuu:
Hawky will fight Shiryuu and Shiryuu will win. Before he kills him, he'll gloat in his face that he is now the WSS. But the Hawky will tell him that he lost that title. Shiryuu will ask to who. Hawky will tell him and then he'll be killed by him. Once Shiryuu knows this, BB pirates will find remaining WB's and BB will somehow extract Jozu's DF and give it to Shiryuu so we can finally see Zoro fight his forshadowed opponent.

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After Zoro defeated Daz, Daz asked him if he's gonna go and cut diamond but Zoro said it'll be a waste. But now he has a chance to fight someone who is diamond.

And Zoro will triumph.

 

[GenKiDama]

interesting theory, but I don't see it happening for a loooonnngggg time.

 

[ziggyZ]

interesting theory, but I don't see it happening for a loooonnngggg time.

Well that's obvious Zol is only Mid-TIER currently.

 

[Fujitora]

Good theory.

 

[Punk Hazard]

That's a good theory.

However, the reason BB didn't take on Shanks was because he was still inexperienced with the Goro Goro no Mi. We have no idea if he's still the weakest Yonko.

 

[ziggyZ]

That's a good theory.

However, the reason BB didn't take on Shanks was because he was still inexperienced with the Goro Goro no Mi. We have no idea if he's still the weakest Yonko.

IMO, the order in which the Emperor's fall are most likely strongest. E.G. Kaidou is incredibly strong that's why there's an alliance. Luffy will have experience when he deals with BM. And Akagami is reserved for BB.

 

[VongolaX]

I just can't see Mihawk losing to Shiryuu, i mean just episode 30-50 we have seen Mihawk own fodders with his buttering knife and cut ships while he is sleeping.


I'm still convinced that Mihawk use that same butter knive to train zoro for 2 years, and you expect me to believe that the guy who stalemated Magellan in the impel down (pre timeskip) would beat a guy who was already competing with yonkous?


Mihawk geats stronger too after timeskip, those need to factor in.

 

[ziggyZ]

I just can't see Mihawk losing to Shiryuu, i mean just episode 30-50 we have seen Mihawk own fodders with his buttering knife and cut ships while he is sleeping.


I'm still convinced that Mihawk use that same butter knive to train zoro for 2 years, and you expect me to believe that the guy who stalemated Magellan in the impel down (pre timeskip) would beat a guy who was already competing with yonkous?


Mihawk geats stronger too after timeskip, those need to factor in.

Yeah I understand what you're saying, so perhaps he has Jozu's fruit before they fight if that helps. Also, when you say about him also getting stronger, I don't doubt that for a second. But there's the question of how does the WSS get any better? Not that he may not but doesn't that make you curious?

 

[kmrasengan]

That's interesting and I can see it happening but I don't want Mihawk to die, he's too cool for that.

 

[VongolaX]

Yeah I understand what you're saying, so perhaps he has Jozu's fruit before they fight if that helps. Also, when you say about him also getting stronger, I don't doubt that for a second. But there's the question of how does the WSS get any better? Not that he may not but doesn't that make you curious?

WSS? Don't know what that is, but i can say that pre timeskip no one can cut through diamond except for diamond. Diamond is impenetrable can not be broken unless you use the same substance.

If Mihawk cut through diamond with his sword then he should be going up against people like WB in his prime. You also have to remember that jozu use full body diamond, that's saying something, even doflamingo couldn't cut through him with his strings, only stop his movement.

 

[Fujitora]

WSS? Don't know what that is, but i can say that pre timeskip no one can cut through diamond except for diamond. Diamond is impenetrable can not be broken unless you use the same substance.

If Mihawk cut through diamond with his sword then he should be going up against people like WB in his prime. You also have to remember that jozu use full body diamond, that's saying something, even doflamingo couldn't cut through him with his strings, only stop his movement.

World's strongest swordsman.

 

[WhistleBlower]

Bloody interesting & logical read!!

But one thing, i don't see Mihawk loosing to Shiryuu.

But i do like the Zoro fighting Mihawk for title thing

 

[chad062388]

Great theory man.

 

[shri3kbat]

I like the idea of Zoro defeating Mihawk before Shiryu does. This got me thinking. In the near end, Zoro defeats Mihawk thus claiming his title (This would be near Raftel). Then Shiryu shows up later.. with the DF of Jozu which he got when he killed him
during the big showdown between the Shanks alliance and the Blackbeard alliance (A war in which BB kills Shanks and Shiryu kills Jozu, which won't be like Marineford and more like say Shiki vs Roger). The BB alliance have rookies as Kid, Apoo, Hawkins on his side while
Shanks have Luffy, Law, Bonney, what's left of the WB pirates (Under the command of Marco). So Shiryu defeats Mihawk and Mihawk tells him that the title belongs to Zoro and then dies.
That would make Shiryu a really good side villain

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

I can see a lot of this happening. My guess would be that if Mihawk did fight Shiryuu, someone would most likely intervene to give Shiryuu the edge. As others have said...I just can't see Mihawk losing to him, but at the same time, we haven't seen the best of either competiter.

If Blackbeard managed to get Diamond Jozu's DF...I can see Shiryuu winning....for example, he uses it last minute, and Mihawk wasn't aware of Jozu's death. That and he most likely cannot cut Daimond. That will end up being Zoro's defining moment as the World's Greatest Swordsmen.

Why the Hawk have to die :'(...still, him saying that he lost the title would be an awesome pimp slap to Shiryuu's face XD!

 

[TheHokage]

Wow really good theory I actually like the idea of Zoro and Mihawk fighting while everyone is watching them.

Also I can totally see that diamond part happening.

 

[ziggyZ]

That's interesting and I can see it happening but I don't want Mihawk to die, he's too cool for that.

But what about WB xD

WSS? Don't know what that is, but i can say that pre timeskip no one can cut through diamond except for diamond. Diamond is impenetrable can not be broken unless you use the same substance.

If Mihawk cut through diamond with his sword then he should be going up against people like WB in his prime. You also have to remember that jozu use full body diamond, that's saying something, even doflamingo couldn't cut through him with his strings, only stop his movement.

But remember at the end of the day Jozu's diamond ability is derived from the DF. And CoA nullifies DF power. So essentially, with the "power of destructioon" and CoA, one such as Hawky could cut through diamond.

Great theory man.

Thanks.

 

[ziggyZ]

That's interesting and I can see it happening but I don't want Mihawk to die, he's too cool for that.

But what about WB xD

WSS? Don't know what that is, but i can say that pre timeskip no one can cut through diamond except for diamond. Diamond is impenetrable can not be broken unless you use the same substance.

If Mihawk cut through diamond with his sword then he should be going up against people like WB in his prime. You also have to remember that jozu use full body diamond, that's saying something, even doflamingo couldn't cut through him with his strings, only stop his movement.

But remember at the end of the day Jozu's diamond ability is derived from the DF. And CoA nullifies DF power. So essentially, with the "power of destructioon" and CoA, one such as Hawky could cut through diamond.

Great theory man.

Thanks.

Wow really good theory I actually like the idea of Zoro and Mihawk fighting while everyone is watching them.

Also I can totally see that diamond part happening.

Thanks.

I can see a lot of this happening. My guess would be that if Mihawk did fight Shiryuu, someone would most likely intervene to give Shiryuu the edge. As others have said...I just can't see Mihawk losing to him, but at the same time, we haven't seen the best of either competiter.

If Blackbeard managed to get Diamond Jozu's DF...I can see Shiryuu winning....for example, he uses it last minute, and Mihawk wasn't aware of Jozu's death. That and he most likely cannot cut Daimond. That will end up being Zoro's defining moment as the World's Greatest Swordsmen.

Why the Hawk have to die :'(...still, him saying that he lost the title would be an awesome pimp slap to Shiryuu's face XD!

I find it difficult for Hawky to lose to him as well. But Goda knows what he's doing if he does it like this.
Exactly!

 

[The 1 who knows]

I just can't see Mihawk losing to Shiryuu, i mean just episode 30-50 we have seen Mihawk own fodders with his buttering knife and cut ships while he is sleeping.


I'm still convinced that Mihawk use that same butter knive to train zoro for 2 years, and you expect me to believe that the guy who stalemated Magellan in the impel down (pre timeskip) would beat a guy who was already competing with yonkous?


Mihawk geats stronger too after timeskip, those need to factor in.

maybe hawk eyes looses but goes on to train zoro even more: Kind of what happened in hajime no ippo!

 

[ziggyZ]

maybe hawk eyes looses but goes on to train zoro even more: Kind of what happened in hajime no ippo!

But could he make him even stronger?