[Spoilers] Shanks and mihawk relationship

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shanks over mihawk but not by much. shanks is a yonkou, mihawk is not. shanks has kings haki and mihawk hasn't proven he does. he might but its not a canon feat yet so theres no argument. now if mihawk shows kings haki this thread will then be relevant.
Kings haki is only useful against fodder, Luffy have kings haki yet he could still get punked by admirals whi don't have it. Kings haki is no argument for determining the strength of a character. Also Mihawk is the worlds strongest swordsman and Shanks is a swordsman so there you have it.
 

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Kings haki is only useful against fodder, Luffy have kings haki yet he could still get punked by admirals whi don't have it. Kings haki is no argument for determining the strength of a character. Also Mihawk is the worlds strongest swordsman and Shanks is a swordsman so there you have it.
Luffy literally just learned how to control his CoC you can't compare him to someone that has at least ten years more experience we don't even know what CoC is really capable of hell we're just getting to see an awakening in full effect
 

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There is an astronomical difference b/w Moriah and Mihawk. Shanks still considers him to be his rival but Kaido doesn't with Moriah. Mihawk even now believes that having a match with Shanks is unfair in his favor which says something about the guy. None uses Moriah to explain Kaido's greatness but even the man who once hailed as the strongest pirate finds it necessary to mention Mihawk while talking about how great his fellow Yonko is, Shanks specifically singled out Mihawk from his adventures when talking about the possibilities that could've inflected damage on his face.

That's why I said Moria before he got destroyed by kaidou. Before then there was no difference and going off of a whim here doesn't make it any different. Just because Mihawk is satisfied with fighting Shanks with both arms doesn't take away or add anything to his hype, it just means that Mihawk is confident. The funny thing is that during Shanks' journey he mentioned that all the damages he's taken from all his battles, the one that greatly hurt him the most was the scar over his eye. Mihawk had nothing to do with that scar.
So why can't take character pride as a means of canon strength. Whitebeard made mentions of all the shichibakui that he cam in contact with, him mentioning Hawk eyes doesn't say anything really.
Whenever there is something about Shanks happens Mihawk is there either directly or indirectly like how Roger has always been mentioned whenever someone talks about Whitebeard. That's the kind of relation they hold. They're being mentioned even now along side each other because both are at the top.
No, Shanks isn't always brought up with Mihawk. When Shanks was said to get into battle with Kaidou, nothing was said about Mihawk directly or indirectly. When the Dukes saw Luffy's hat and mention shanks, he said nothing about Mihawk either. So they don't hold that relationship to that degree, Whitebeard mentioned Mihawk once when associating with Shanks but besides that they were never mentioned together in the same sentence again.
 

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That's why I said Moria before he got destroyed by kaidou. Before then there was no difference and going off of a whim here doesn't make it any different. Just because Mihawk is satisfied with fighting Shanks with both arms doesn't take away or add anything to his hype, it just means that Mihawk is confident. The funny thing is that during Shanks' journey he mentioned that all the damages he's taken from all his battles, the one that greatly hurt him the most was the scar over his eye. Mihawk had nothing to do with that scar.
So why can't take character pride as a means of canon strength. Whitebeard made mentions of all the shichibakui that he cam in contact with, him mentioning Hawk eyes doesn't say anything really.
I don't understand what you're trying to say here. How does the statement about Moriah change anything here? It changes nothing because Mihawk is nothing like Moriah in any sense. It's not about being satisfied, he was looking down on Shanks when he mocked him for thinking about challenging him with one arm. He implied that he's superior with that statement, he literally turned down a yonko who's willing to have a duel with him. Do you think someone who's a level or two below Shanks would say that? Confidence? Shanks is freaking Yonko, the whole world knows that he's someone who proved himself to be on par with the strongest man. Do you seriously think Mihawk would act as if he's superior just because he's confidant despite being completely aware of how strong Shanks is? Only a retard who lost his brain cells would make such a ridiculous claim.

The wound was likely inflected even before Roger's death, He had that wound for at least more than 10 years so it definitely can't physically hurts him the most. It hurts him mentally/emotionally because it's an indication of unsettled business with Blackbeard. He doesn't have anything with the scar. Mihawk was singled out when he was talking about threats that can potentially hurt him, that's clearly something that hypes Mihawk.

Whitebeard never said anything about warlords when was talking with Shanks. The point is that he specifically bought Mihawk to hype Shanks. If Mihawk is nothing more than a pointless relic in his Shanks history who was far surpassed by Shanks then people doesn't use him to hype Shanks even now just like there is no need to use Moriah to hype Kaido.


No, Shanks isn't always brought up with Mihawk. When Shanks was said to get into battle with Kaidou, nothing was said about Mihawk directly or indirectly. When the Dukes saw Luffy's hat and mention shanks, he said nothing about Mihawk either. So they don't hold that relationship to that degree, Whitebeard mentioned Mihawk once when associating with Shanks but besides that they were never mentioned together in the same sentence again.
I am not even sure if this is serious. :|Why would they mention Mihawk in these cases? If I say he was always bought into the equation, it doesn't mean that he must be present in every single panel that involves Shanks. He was mentioned by Whitebeard when they were talking about Shanks. Who were bought into the equation when Whitebeard remembers his past? It was Roger and Garp followed by Sengoku because they're most important figures in his life who competed with him. Mihawk is like them to Shanks.
 

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Luffy literally just learned how to control his CoC you can't compare him to someone that has at least ten years more experience we don't even know what CoC is really capable of hell we're just getting to see an awakening in full effect
It doesn't matter, Chinjao had kings haki but that didn't stop him from getting wasted by Lao G who don't have it.
 

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I don't understand what you're trying to say here. How does the statement about Moriah change anything here? It changes nothing because Mihawk is nothing like Moriah in any sense. It's not about being satisfied, he was looking down on Shanks when he mocked him for thinking about challenging him with one arm. He implied that he's superior with that statement, he literally turned down a yonko who's willing to have a duel with him. Do you think someone who's a level or two below Shanks would say that? Confidence? Shanks is freaking Yonko, the whole world knows that he's someone who proved himself to be on par with the strongest man. Do you seriously think Mihawk would act as if he's superior just because he's confidant despite being completely aware of how strong Shanks is? Only a retard who lost his brain cells would make such a ridiculous claim.

He is like Moria in a sense because both of them are warlords and both of their rivals was a yonkou before Moria lost.
Nothing implies that Mihawk is stronger, only a stupid retard would come up with such moronic speculations.
I didn't reply to here your stupid theories, this is about what is factual here and in no way shape or form did he state or imply that he was superior.
The wound was likely inflected even before Roger's death, He had that wound for at least more than 10 years so it definitely can't physically hurts him the most. It hurts him mentally/emotionally because it's an indication of unsettled business with Blackbeard. He doesn't have anything with the scar. Mihawk was singled out when he was talking about threats that can potentially hurt him, that's clearly something that hypes Mihawk.
Again with your retarded theories.
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Shanks made no mention of an emotional pain, that's stupid because neither Shanks or BB are conflicted against each other on a deeper level. The only reason why he even mention Hawk eyes in the first place is because Whitebeard brought up how they use to fight each other as kids back in the day. He even said that this aching pain he recieved, he wasn't careless at all. So he's hyping BB and not Hawk eyes.

Whitebeard never said anything about warlords when was talking with Shanks. The point is that he specifically bought Mihawk to hype Shanks. If Mihawk is nothing more than a pointless relic in his Shanks history who was far surpassed by Shanks then people doesn't use him to hype Shanks even now just like there is no need to use Moriah to hype Kaido.
Whitebeard didn't hype up anyone, where the hell did you get this context from?
He brought up Buggy to, so I guess that means he's hyping up that clown too huh? Nonsense, he only brought up Shanks because they use to clash in the new world when they were kids. Whitebeard made no praises to Mihawk whatsoever.
I am not even sure if this is serious. :|Why would they mention Mihawk in these cases? If I say he was always bought into the equation, it doesn't mean that he must be present in every single panel that involves Shanks. He was mentioned by Whitebeard when they were talking about Shanks. Who were bought into the equation when Whitebeard remembers his past? It was Roger and Garp followed by Sengoku because they're most important figures in his life who competed with him. Mihawk is like them to Shanks.


:| What the hell kind of backwards logic is this now? Him remembering his past doesn't have anything to do with hyping up Mihawk, that's completel stupid because he talked about Buggy during his flashback. And buggy is weak. So you're silly speculations got you nowhere.
 
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