[Theory] Seriously........... KCM without Kurama. (For Naruto fanboys)

[The Sach]

Its not different markings...the entire base already went through this when that chapter came out. His clothes are ripped from that attack by the Juubi, hence his KCM looks like he has a cloak when he doesn't. It is not BM.

K but if we say that it is KCM, it even proves that Naruto can switch to KCM from BM, and hence without BM no KCM, currently.:yeah:

 

[KASTAWAY]

I like your ideas , This experience will upgrade Naruto past current levels we have seen. I am not sure what these new abilities will look like. But in evey hero story the hero must reach his or her lowest moment in order to unlock unknown potential . Naruto must also learn something that it seems Madara only knows . I also believe naruto is a nine tails himself because of his birth and sealing. I also see these events will let the story advance and also give true insight into why naruto is so special and its not just his ninja way or his heart. Lastly this makes it possible for naruto to seal all beast within himself at some point , giving them new forms and names.

 

[shadowcb]

I don't know if Naruto has KM or not. Honestly, I don't believe he needs it, but you have to remember, this manga now allows Uchiha to use eye jutsu with no eyes. Enough said.

 

[Troyg39]

K but if we say that it is KCM, it even proves that Naruto can switch to KCM from BM, and hence without BM no KCM, currently.:yeah:

Dude, he never SWITCHED from KCM to BM because he wasn't in BM like you tried to claim. KCM mode comes from the chakra that he took from Kurama. BM comes from the chakra that Kurama gives him.

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Here we see him in KCM mode and attempting to go full Bijuu. Only it doesn't work because Kurama hasn't gathered enough chakra to give him for that mode

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Right here Naruto asks for more chakra to enter BM. But Kurama tells him to use KCM a little while longer so he can give him enough chakra to use a total BM

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Here we see yang Kurama get chakra from Yin Kurama and give to Naruto, which causes him to transform to BM not KCM, because he get's his chakra for BM from the bijuu.

If what you are trying to say is true and it's all the same thing, since he had enough chakra to enter KCM and be in KCM that entire time, then he should've been able to use BM a long time ago.

To further prove my point, this is where Naruto first re-entered KCM

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Before this, he wasn't in any mode, and Kurama was still gathering chakra, which is why he couldn't go into BM right away.

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This is the point at which he lost his KCM and the SA lost the cloak that was protecting them. According to your logic, since he ran out of Kurama's chakra, he shouldn't have been able to re-enter KCM, yet as I showed you, he did. Also notice that after he re-enters KCM, the chakra cloak of the SA still doesn't come back, again proving that the chakra he gets from KCM isn't tied to the chakra that Kurama was giving him to supply the SA

 

[TheCCV]

Naruto has kcm same like ginkaku and kinkaku

Strange, I don't recall Naruto eating Kurama.

 

[AzR]

hmm.. what if the nature of the seal is different(duhhh), uzumaki seal is what makes naruto have KCM at the first place.. and entirely unique to other jins as well...

what if KCM is one the special feature with the seal itself... because naruto did mention the chakra he stole from kurama stored in different part in him which is within the seal itself...

so if kurama was stripped off from him, whats the point of the seal? hence the seal will shut down.. thus, makes KCM also shut down...

i hope you understand my point.. just my 2 cents

 

[Sethic]

And maybe the SA can give him back Kurama's power that he gave them with their unique ability, still think their is more to that jutsu. Also he can receive charka from the 8 and 1 tailed, lets not forget the yin half of the 9 tailed from Minato. Naruto is down right now, but not out!!!!!!!!

 

[KCMNaruto]

He will Keep KCM wether people like it or no

KCM + SM combination will come handy soon

 

[Byron123]

Just because I'm a bit too lazy to copy the whole thing here, can you please check my answer to tysoncs's thread?

 

[-ahhimane-]

I have heard a lot of NB say that Naruto can still use KCM, because of the fact that he won the Kyuubi’s chakra from, Kurama and that that chakra is now his own. Because of which even if Kurama is extracted Naruto will be able to utilize this chakra…………… That is complete bunk!!! Naruto is not the first perfect jin. According to Bee, even he had to go through that phase and therefore we can assume that other perfect jin. did so as well and they still died.

That being said there is a way for Naruto to maintain the ability to use KCM. Naruto’s mother was a jinchuuriki and since his birth even before having the kyuubi sealed within him Naruto has had the whiskers that show the presence of Kyuubi chakra. These same whiskers are shown by the legendary Ginkaku and Kinkaku and as a result these shinobi are able to become pseudo jinchuuriki with power reminiscent to kyuubi’s four tailed chakra cloak.

This leads me to believe that even without Kurama, Naruto will be able to utilize the Nine tails chakra to some degree. Also of particular interest is the eight trigram seal. Because of this seal the kyuubi’s chakra has been mixing and increasing the size of Naruto’s own chakra reserves. Normally a portion of this chakra is used to suppress the Nine tails so without his bijuu Naruto will not only have full access to his own tremendous chakra, but a great deal of kyuubi chakra as well.

This with SM probably won’t stand up as well as BSM, but Naruto will still be a threat, ONLY AFTER HE IS DONE RECUPERATING. Naruto because of having Kurama extracted will be down for quite a while and because of him only being half Uzamaki the event might take a greater toll on him than it did on Mito and Kushina.

With all this being said Naruto fans can calm down already. Naruto won’t die and he won’t be fodder. I am really getting tired of all the bashing, the butthurt, and the wanking done by BOTH Naruto and Sasuke fans. It was fun for a while, but the whole thing got REALLY STALE REALLY FAST and if things continue we are looking at 3 whole weeks of this crap. :dead: :dead: :dead:

Sorry, there are no pictures, I am at work atm and working through my phone.

I agree with you to some point. But you're forgetting that Naruto's body has become compatible with the Kyuubi's chakra and hence there are a very little chances that because of the stored Kyuubi's chakra reserves, his body will take a toll because of extracted Kyuubi.

 

[ANiMUS]

I agree with you to some point. But you're forgetting that Naruto's body has become compatible with the Kyuubi's chakra and hence there are a very little chances that because of the stored Kyuubi's chakra reserves, his body will take a toll because of extracted Kyuubi.

TBH, I think its because Naruto's body is so accustomed to the Kyuubi chakra that Naruto would be in such a grim situation. The kyuubi has been tethered to Naruto's soul since the day he was born. Separating them now would be like separating conjoined twins.

 

[Tera Path]

Naruto has kcm same like ginkaku and kinkaku

KCM is different.

Ginkaku and Kinkaku are like bee's host transformation, Bee has some kind of measly seal and Ginkaku and Kinkaku just have chakra dwelling inside of them.

Naruto has a special seal, which was pretty much used just so that the Jinchuuriki could utilize the chakra of the Bijuu better and for it to mix with his own.

Unlike Bee, Gin and Kin, Naruto can use KCM and BM, those are better than just undergoing full host transformation.
Bee can go anywhere from just 1-7 tails with a regular chakra cloak and also like when Naruto went in 4-7 tails mode.

BM>Host transformation.

 

[flyboyissac]

Naruto doesn't have any KCM left, because he used up all of the chakra he had, the last time he used KCM in chapter in chapter 628, before Juubi did this,

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and on top of that he distributed chakra to shinobi alliance in the same chapter, so overall he pretty much used that chakra, making him tired as seen below, he lost KCM too.

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as he protected people from last attack.

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Ok I get it everything u said make sense -_- I'm going sum were else

 

[Honord Sage]

I have heard a lot of NB say that Naruto can still use KCM, because of the fact that he won the Kyuubi’s chakra from, Kurama and that that chakra is now his own. Because of which even if Kurama is extracted Naruto will be able to utilize this chakra…………… That is complete bunk!!! Naruto is not the first perfect jin. According to Bee, even he had to go through that phase and therefore we can assume that other perfect jin. did so as well and they still died.

That being said there is a way for Naruto to maintain the ability to use KCM. Naruto’s mother was a jinchuuriki and since his birth even before having the kyuubi sealed within him Naruto has had the whiskers that show the presence of Kyuubi chakra. These same whiskers are shown by the legendary Ginkaku and Kinkaku and as a result these shinobi are able to become pseudo jinchuuriki with power reminiscent to kyuubi’s four tailed chakra cloak.

This leads me to believe that even without Kurama, Naruto will be able to utilize the Nine tails chakra to some degree. Also of particular interest is the eight trigram seal. Because of this seal the kyuubi’s chakra has been mixing and increasing the size of Naruto’s own chakra reserves. Normally a portion of this chakra is used to suppress the Nine tails so without his bijuu Naruto will not only have full access to his own tremendous chakra, but a great deal of kyuubi chakra as well.

This with SM probably won’t stand up as well as BSM, but Naruto will still be a threat, ONLY AFTER HE IS DONE RECUPERATING. Naruto because of having Kurama extracted will be down for quite a while and because of him only being half Uzamaki the event might take a greater toll on him than it did on Mito and Kushina.

With all this being said Naruto fans can calm down already. Naruto won’t die and he won’t be fodder. I am really getting tired of all the bashing, the butthurt, and the wanking done by BOTH Naruto and Sasuke fans. It was fun for a while, but the whole thing got REALLY STALE REALLY FAST and if things continue we are looking at 3 whole weeks of this crap. :dead: :dead: :dead:

Sorry, there are no pictures, I am at work atm and working through my phone.

What you fail to comprehend is Naruto has Kurama in Minato, Madara has not extracted Kurama from Minato so indirectly Naruto still as access to Kurama. He use that Chakra before.