Senjutsu is weakness of Ten tails Host or was it only in case of Ten tails host Obito

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Hello guys, When Obito became Ten tails Host and it was revealed that Senjutsu is his weaknes. It was generally stated that Senjutsu is Ten tails host's weakness, but We know only two people were Ten tails host: Sage of six paths and Obito, with later being only Ten tails host on manga panels who didn't know nature energy, how to harness or use it, he lacked also Sennin mode. My question is: "Could Senjutsu still work on Juubi Jin if Juubi Jin mastered use of Sage chakra ?"... Could it or no ?

Here we have Obito stating it:
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^^ Is Obito even reffering to Senjutsu as being his weaknes in Ten tails Host mode... or is He reffering to being unable to use Kamui is that weakness.

I am confused about that stuff.

For example If Obito was able to harness and use Sage chakra by entering Sennin mode with complete mastery before becomming Ten tails host, then could he after becoming Ten tails host be still vunerable to Senjutsu ?

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If in theory Madara becomes Ten tails Host while being able to use Senjutsu, could he still has this weakness or no ?

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^^ Madara planned to use Hashirama's Hermit/Senjutsu powers to switch with Obito..., Could it be that Madara know about that weakness and planned ahead to when he becomes Ten tails Host Senjutsu was no his weakness ?

Please reply honestly adding reason why do you think that ?

Do you think Sage of six paths if he has potential mastery over Sage chakra or Current Madara with Senjutsu after becoming Ten tails host could have still weakness to Senjtusu or no ?

Conclusion
: If Host of Ten tails can harnesss and use Sage chakra then could Senjtusu would still be weakness oh him/her or no ?

Thanks for reading !
 
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like i said in your previous thread: yeah it'd work on Madara, cuz no one has shown to be able to drain/absorb Nature from someone else. You must block/dodge the Nature Based attack...

the only reason why chakra won't work is because Juubi is 100% Pure Chakra. JUUBI IS THE CHAKRA. any chakra used towards IT... will simply make IT stronger... because IT takes back what's rightfully ITS OWN POWER. but Nature will affect IT... Because Nature is not JUUBI'S POWER.

Naruto were fighting Fukasaku, both using Sage Mode... but they could still hit each other...
 
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Nice man keep it up.!!

now it all makes sense.!!

#thumbsup

:yayy:

lol, thanks ;)

Now, so you think knowing and being able to use Sage chakra could change it or no ?
 

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Senjutsu isn't actually a weakness. Its just the only thing that could harm the Juubi. I'd say the only weakness the Juubi has I'd it being mindless.
 

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shit thread

totsuka is the real weakness of ten tails host and everyone else
 

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Senjutsu isn't actually a weakness. Its just the only thing that could harm the Juubi. I'd say the only weakness the Juubi has I'd it being mindless.

I know I meant that Senjtusu is only mean to harmd Ten tails Host... but could it be the same if host of Ten tails has mastered use of Sage chakra or could it remove Senjutsu as mean to harm Ten tails Host ?
 

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Yep, it would be the same :p
 

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shit thread

totsuka is the real weakness of ten tails host and everyone else

You are shit, who can not stop about Itachi, Totsuka and Yata in your wet dreams

You blind hater and always going off-topic. You are nowhere close to my level of inteligence, come back when you will be ready.

Before I end, SOSP with closed eyes and while dying can finish Itachi in no time, get over with it fanboy

Yep, it would be the same :p

Thanks for reply, so it does not matter if host can harness and use Sage chakra or no ?

Maybe you are right
 

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I know I meant that Senjtusu is only mean to harmd Ten tails Host... but could it be the same if host of Ten tails has mastered use of Sage chakra or could it remove Senjutsu as mean to harm Ten tails Host ?

Im guessing that since there are various types of sage mode and different ways to manipulate sage chakta then yes he is still vulnerable.

For example Dragon sage mode enhances the users speed while frog sage mode manipulates the area near the users body to hurt the opponent. Like Sage naruto vs preta path.

Toad sage mode seems to be the most useful sage mode. Chakra sensing. Motion detecting. Manipulate area around opponent and enhanced strength. If Madara in sage mode is hit by that then even he will feel it.
 

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Im guessing that since there are various types of sage mode and different ways to manipulate sage chakta then yes he is still vulnerable.

For example Dragon sage mode enhances the users speed while frog sage mode manipulates the area near the users body to hurt the opponent. Like Sage naruto vs preta path.

Toad sage mode seems to be the most useful sage mode. Chakra sensing. Motion detecting. Manipulate area around opponent and enhanced strength. If Madara in sage mode is hit by that then even he will feel it.

hmm... ok that is nice explanation.

So only way to be invulnerable to Senjutsu is having mastery of all kinds of sage modes..., or at least same type of Senin mode opponent is going to use on you, AM I right ?

Do you believe that if SOSP had mastery over all types of Sage mode while being Ten tails Host could be harmed by Senjutsu ?

Thanks for your time and nice explanation of your points ;)
 

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You are shit, who can not stop about Itachi, Totsuka and Yata in your wet dreams

You blind hater and always going off-topic. You are nowhere close to my level of inteligence, come back when you will be ready.

Before I end, SOSP with closed eyes and while dying can finish Itachi in no time, get over with it fanboy

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totsuka already shitted on rinnegan lol, get over it rinnegan fanboy

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It does make sense but I really can't see a second jinchuuriki so fast. I generally can't see it to begin with.
 

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totsuka already shitted on rinnegan lol, get over it rinnegan fanboy

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Nagato != SOSP

Please buy yourself pair of glasses before you need them to see well.

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Your vision is not well man, seriously go visit oculist, then maybe visit psychologist on your way.

You need special medical help as you have problems with even using your mind well.

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Also STOP generalizing All Rinnegan users being same powerfull and loosing to your beloved and fapped every day Totsuka Blade. The Eye is as good as the wielder is.

SOSP > Madara > Nagato

SOSP > Itachi

SOSP's Rinnegan > Totsuka.

Now go and cry into corner or stay in delusion

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totsuka already shitted on rinnegan lol, get over it rinnegan fanboy

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Lol the fanboys are those who give bad name to the rest of us who read the manga or watch the anime.
 

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It does make sense but I really can't see a second jinchuuriki so fast. I generally can't see it to begin with.

Thanks , so you think Ten tails host possesing mastery over same type of Sennin mode as opponent who try to harm him with it could make Ten tails invulnerable to Senjutsu attack of opponent.

For example

Ten tails Host with Toad Sage mode vs Toad Sage mode user
Tent tails Host with Snake Sage mode vs Snake Sage mode user
Ten tails host with Hashirama's Sage mode vs Hashirama SM

or do you think it is enough to have master over free one sage mode to being able to counter Senjutsu attacks ?
 

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hmm... ok that is nice explanation.

So only way to be invulnerable to Senjutsu is having mastery of all kinds of sage modes..., or at least same type of Senin mode opponent is going to use on you, AM I right ?

Do you believe that if SOSP had mastery over all types of Sage mode while being Ten tails Host could be harmed by Senjutsu ?

Thanks for your time and nice explanation of your points ;)
No prob and I guess that if you had access to all sage modes you would be invurnable. BUT you could only activate one sage mode at a time since you need to gather natural chakra that is used up pretty fast. Unless you have Jugo's ability then your senjutsu chakra would be used up before you could get off an attack if you activated all sage modes.

Not to mention you need to stand still to gather the chakra which makes you a big target. So pretty much senjutsu could counter senjutsu so the battle will have to be decided another way.

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That was an Edo controlled Nagato. Kabuto controlled him and if it was Nagato he wouldve been able to find a counter. Kabutodidnt have full knowledge of the rinnegan so your argument is invalid.

totsuka already shitted on rinnegan lol, get over it rinnegan fanboy

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Rinnegan is more powerful than the EMS anyway. Which is an obvious fact. Rinnegan> any MS techniques including the totsuka blade
 
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Thanks , so you think Ten tails host possesing mastery over same type of Sennin mode as opponent who try to harm him with it could make Ten tails invulnerable to Senjutsu attack of opponent.

For example

Ten tails Host with Toad Sage mode vs Toad Sage mode user
Tent tails Host with Snake Sage mode vs Snake Sage mode user
Ten tails host with Hashirama's Sage mode vs Hashirama SM

or do you think it is enough to have master over free one sage mode to being able to counter Senjutsu attacks ?

Sage modes are a very difficult case, you can't examine them like that, like saying water>fire. These modes grant you completely different abilities which doesn't have to do with mere ninjutsu. For instance Naruto by learning sage mode was able to learn toads' sage mode but what if Sasuke by supposedly having the same chakra, had tried to to learn the exact same mode? I think sage modes really depend on your fighting style and can't be taught that simply by just having loads of chakra.
 

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Well since its Madara , then i doubt that Senjutsu would be a weakness to him in his Juubi jin form ( the dude has a plan for everything :| )
 

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Sage modes are a very difficult case, you can't examine them like that, like saying water>fire. These modes grant you completely different abilities which doesn't have to do with mere ninjutsu. For instance Naruto by learning sage mode was able to learn toads' sage mode but what if Sasuke by supposedly having the same chakra, had tried to to learn the exact same mode? I think sage modes really depend on your fighting style and can't be taught that simply by just having loads of chakra.

Ok, I get you points straight ;)

But could it work in "If " cases with these examples:

en tails Host with Toad Sage mode vs Toad Sage mode user
Tent tails Host with Snake Sage mode vs Snake Sage mode user
Ten tails host with Hashirama's Sage mode vs Hashirama SM

I mean, please do not think if it could be possible but if it happened ... could it work to stop Senjutsu from harming Ten tails Host ?
 
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