Senjutsu Five vs Doujutsu Five

[MadaraReturns]

Lol blind madara took out hashirama, people still saying that hashirama beats madara

 

[Red Slayer]

Yes it does, if you are referring to when danzo used it then u seem to have forgot although danzo covered his eyes, MIFUNES'S eyes were still wide open. Kabuto sealing his eyes makes him imune to genjutsu. Why do u think itachi couldn't use tsukuyomi.

Danzo never used KA ;/ he used Izanagi ;/

 

[Namikaze Haru]

Lol blind madara took out hashirama, people still saying that hashirama beats madara

Although I agree that in a 1v1 madara will win, your scenario dosen't really help coz madara had already put the black rods in hashirama's's body when was still an edo, and blind madara had SM.

Danzo never used KA ;/ he used Izanagi ;/

Yes he did, he used it on mifune at the kage summit.

 

[Red Slayer]

Although I agree that in a 1v1 madara will win, your scenario dosen't really help coz madara had already put the black rods in hashirama's's body when was still an edo, and blind madara had SM.



Yes he did, he used it on mifune at the kage summit.

XDXD scan :X:X

 

[Mr SwizZz]

Lol im surprised at the amount of people that say that the doujutsu team beats the senjutsu team.

First point, a lot of people said that because shisui's KA could make 1, maybe 2 people from team 1 change sides, however im pretty sure that KA can be countered. Any genjutsu used by team 2 will be countered by team 1. Kabuto can close off his eyes, naruto and minato have tailed beasts and jiraiya has the 2 elder toads. Only hashirama is vulnerable and I think any of the other 4 can break him out as this is a team fight.

That brings me to my second point, this is a 5v5, not 5 1v1s. People keep making their own match ups which unbalances the fight. People make the obvious naruto vs sasuke and madara vs hashirama and then make their own match ups and the wrong 1s at that.

Third point, people are forgetting important details, like the guy who said that shisui uses KA on kabuto to uses edo tensei against team 1. Did you forget that kabuto can seal his eyes off? Other points include:

1. Susanoo is weak against sound based attacks which are used by kabuto and jiraiya's toads.

2. Kabuto can use edo tensei (although no madara or itachi) and only madara or itachi can deal with it with rinnegan human path or totsuka blade.

3. Team 2 may have two PS plus itachi's susanoo but team 1 has wood golem, true 1 thousand hands, kurama and other tailed beasts

4. Obito's kamui has been overcome before by minato's FTG but obito's kamui gets a speed upgrade when he has 2 eyes.

5. Only jiraiya and kabuto are vulnerable to amaterasu, naruto can speed blitz it as can minato who also has FTG barrier and hashirama can use wood to separate the blames from his body

6. Like I said above, this is a 5v5 not 5 1v1s so there can be combination moves like naruto sharing chakra, minato teleporting people after linking his chakra to everyone and susanoos attacking simultaneously.

In my opinion team 1 wins because if naruto shares his chakra with everyone then links with minato's FTG, then jiraiya and kabuto overcome their vulnerability to amaterasu. The shared chakra means that hashirama is no longer vulnerable to genjutsu. Plus kabuto's edo tensei, jiraiya's sound genjutsu + kabuto's white dragon jutsu, minato's FTG, hashirama's wood and naruto's chakra. Team 1 has to win.

Even obito's kamui and sasuke's s/t cannot keep up with minato teleporting 5 people around and to match 2 PS, we have hashirama's wood golem and true 1 thousand hands with minato's bijuu mode and naruto's bijuu mode.

Probably best post on this thread.
However, I found some flaws.

1. Kabuto evaded Sasuke's kagutsuchi arrow, not to mention he can just peel his skin off if amaterasu hits him. Not to mention he can probably sense Amaterasu building up, and due to sage mode he is incredibly fast.

2. Obito's kamui doesnt get faster, unless he touches an opponent which he can use his right kamui to wrap him at the same time as his left snipe.
Otherwise, it is just Kamui snipe+own intangibility.
I wish people will stop for once thining Obito can become intangible through twice as fast. No, he cant
Unless someone snipes him at the same time has he starts to become intangible, he can only use his right eye, he cannot snipe himself, thats stupid.

As for Hashirama, I cant see how he can separate the flames once the flames hit his face, but again I dont think Hashirama doesnt have some kind of counter.

But yeah, I agree Senjutsu Team does win.

Sound genjutsu + FTG + Bijuu Rasengan or mini-bijuu bomb is going to wreck them.
I dont even see why Hashirama would be needed here.

 

[Mr SwizZz]

XDXD scan :X:X

He used it, Ao spotted him with the Byakugan, Mifune got pissed off and thats why Danzo couldnt use it against Sasuke.

 

[Namikaze Haru]

Probably best post on this thread.
However, I found some flaws.

1. Kabuto evaded Sasuke's kagutsuchi arrow, not to mention he can just peel his skin off if amaterasu hits him. Not to mention he can probably sense Amaterasu building up, and due to sage mode he is incredibly fast.

2. Obito's kamui doesnt get faster, unless he touches an opponent which he can use his right kamui to wrap him at the same time as his left snipe.
Otherwise, it is just Kamui snipe+own intangibility.
I wish people will stop for once thining Obito can become intangible through twice as fast. No, he cant
Unless someone snipes him at the same time has he starts to become intangible, he can only use his right eye, he cannot snipe himself, thats stupid.

As for Hashirama, I cant see how he can separate the flames once the flames hit his face, but again I dont think Hashirama doesnt have some kind of counter.

But yeah, I agree Senjutsu Team does win.

Sound genjutsu + FTG + Bijuu Rasengan or mini-bijuu bomb is going to wreck them.
I dont even see why Hashirama would be needed here.

Great finds. Agree with 1. In 2 I only meant his teleporting speed increases, remember when he and kakashi both used kamui against madara, he was able to teleport to the kamui dimension faster. And on hashirama, I meant that he could use wood to separate the flames from his body in similar fashion to how the juubi did it.

He used it, Ao spotted him with the Byakugan, Mifune got pissed off and thats why Danzo couldnt use it against Sasuke.

Thank you, lol I don't know why he needs someone to remind him.

 

[Mr SwizZz]

Great finds. Agree with 1. In 2 I only meant his teleporting speed increases, remember when he and kakashi both used kamui against madara, he was able to teleport to the kamui dimension faster. And on hashirama, I meant that he could use wood to separate the flames from his body in similar fashion to how the juubi did it.



Thank you, lol I don't know why he needs someone to remind him.

Unless someone snipes him at the same time as he starts to become intangible, he can only use his right eye, he cannot snipe himself.

Kakashi sniped him while Obito used his defensive ability at the same time.
Kakashi can only snipe, he cannot become intangible like Obito, so its not like Obito can use both eyes to become intangible, he can only use one for intangibility and one for sniping.
Unless he can snipe himself to his dimension, he cannot teleport himself at twice the speed.

Do you get it?

Kakashi sniped Obito's body to kamui dimension and Obito teleported himself at the same time, so hence he teleported at twice the speed.
But since he canno snipe himself, he can only use his normal right eye to teleport his own body to kamui dimension.

hahah
I cannot express myself any simpler way =))

But yeah, thats just how I see it man.
We both agree Senjutsu Team wins so its ok =))

 

[Namikaze Haru]

Unless someone snipes him at the same time as he starts to become intangible, he can only use his right eye, he cannot snipe himself.

Kakashi sniped him while Obito used his defensive ability at the same time.
Kakashi can only snipe, he cannot become intangible like Obito, so its not like Obito can use both eyes to become intangible, he can only use one for intangibility and one for sniping.
Unless he can snipe himself to his dimension, he cannot teleport himself at twice the speed.

Do you get it?

Kakashi sniped Obito's body to kamui dimension and Obito teleported himself at the same time, so hence he teleported at twice the speed.
But since he canno snipe himself, he can only use his normal right eye to teleport his own body to kamui dimension.

hahah
I cannot express myself any simpler way =))

But yeah, thats just how I see it man.
We both agree Senjutsu Team wins so its ok =))

Lol I get it now

 

[Oblivionx]

team senjutsu takes it... everyone there is stronger than their counterparts other than hashirama who is weaker than madara... but other 4 easily make up for that since shisui is weakest here....

 

[Inert Brian]

Team one wins.

DSM Kabuto gets every edo tensei excluding Itachi and Madara. This includes Nagato, gokages, Akatsuki, and 7 swordsmen + more. It only takes seconds to summon them all.

Naruto is initially going to give them all BM cloaks so KA will not work.

Limbo can be a problem, but Naruto can sense limbo clones.

Sausage's Rinnegan can be a problem. But long ranged TBBs are the perfect counter.

Hashi can take on the other 3. Obito is the biggest issue, but frog song will take out Obito.

Hashi, Kabuto, Jman, and Minato + ET army will come to Naruto's aid and overwhelm Maddy and Sasuke.

 

[MadaraReturns]

Although I agree that in a 1v1 madara will win, your scenario dosen't really help coz madara had already put the black rods in hashirama's's body when was still an edo, and blind madara had SM.

Yeah true, but that proofs even more how dumb it is that people still think hashi beats ALIVE rinnegan madara (capable of using 100% of his rinnegan) when he lost to edo madara

 

[Mr SwizZz]

Yeah true, but that proofs even more how dumb it is that people still think hashi beats ALIVE rinnegan madara (capable of using 100% of his rinnegan) when he lost to edo madara

He didnt lose to Edo Madara. In fact, Edo Madara was locked until BZ forced Obito to use RT.
^^

 

[MadaraReturns]

He didnt lose to Edo Madara. In fact, Edo Madara was locked until BZ forced Obito to use RT.
^^

That was because of naruto's help lol, how would he win 1 on 1.. but if you want it like that, both got help, but madara still won haha

 

[TRE MERCER]

Team one wins.

DSM Kabuto gets every edo tensei excluding Itachi and Madara. This includes Nagato, gokages, Akatsuki, and 7 swordsmen + more. It only takes seconds to summon them all.

Naruto is initially going to give them all BM cloaks so KA will not work.

Limbo can be a problem, but Naruto can sense limbo clones.

Sausage's Rinnegan can be a problem. But long ranged TBBs are the perfect counter.

Hashi can take on the other 3. Obito is the biggest issue, but frog song will take out Obito.

Hashi, Kabuto, Jman, and Minato + ET army will come to Naruto's aid and overwhelm Maddy and Sasuke.

Not b4 Obito snipes him. Or shisui controlls him via KA. Also how the hell is going to control all those damn edo's at once?

 

[Inert Brian]

Not b4 Obito snipes him. Or shisui controlls him via KA. Also how the hell is going to control all those damn edo's at once?

He controlled them all at once during the war...?

Kabuto got ET off within seconds, hell he starts in sage mode so dodging Kamui is easy enough for him.

 

[naruto7861]

Team 2 have 2 renniegan users that's 2 negatos that are uchiha they absorb any justu jiriaya or kabuto throw at them madara susasno is op plus sasuke with renniegan and manipulating amaterasu what can team I do to avoid amaterasu and combined with obito kamui plus itachi has amaterasu team 2 have 3 susasno users and in all that how are team 1 going to do agasint shisuis ka all team 2 needs to do is distract team 1 and someone will get hit with ka amaterasu kamui I see team 2 in the offensive and team 1 in the defensive but I personally think in this match up will be decided by luck or something

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Shisui makes Hashi commit suicide and Minato commit suicide.

Obito then proceeds to Kamui snipe while Madara instantly uses his 5 limbos to hold down jiriyai. Jiriyai gets his bones broken by the Limbos then gets his head kamui'd. Then itachi uses izanami on Kabuto. Then rest is just chakra rods after chakra rods.

 

[ultraChalk]

Team one wins.

DSM Kabuto gets every edo tensei excluding Itachi and Madara. This includes Nagato, gokages, Akatsuki, and 7 swordsmen + more. It only takes seconds to summon them all. [/quotes]Those coffins can be defeated by kunai, or DMS obito.

Naruto is initially going to give them all BM cloaks so KA will not work.

What is this? Only jinchuuriki are immune to genjutsu, the others do not have any inner creature to wake them up, and they wouldn't any way since they don't have the same connection to them that Naruto does. You need to be in sync with your Bijuu for them to wake you up.

Limbo can be a problem, but Naruto can sense limbo clones.

Your point..? he can't defend everybody at once, especially not living rinne madara. He already proved he was stronger than him, so BSM is pretty much a non factor in the light of living Madara and current Sasuke.

Sausage's Rinnegan can be a problem. But long ranged TBBs are the perfect counter.

They are also objects for him to swap with.

Hashi can take on the other 3. Obito is the biggest issue, but frog song will take out Obito.

It's his one genjutsu that requires prep time against literally every person from Doujutsu 5 that can cast it instantly.

He's not Frog songing anybody, and Obito can use the time it will take him to prep to kamui him.

Hashi, Kabuto, Jman, and Minato + ET army will come to Naruto's aid and overwhelm Maddy and Sasuke.

If they turn into zombies, yeah

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Every coffin gets kamui sniped