[Discussion] Senjustu

[ShadowBandit]

So my question is, do people think Gamakichi had already gathered senjustu chakra to infuse into his justu to attack Obito or is all attacks from animals already infused with senjustu chakra?

Because my understanding was that human or frog, you had to gather natural energy to use senjustus type moves, just like when Fukasaku showed Naruto how to gather the natural energy by demonstrating himself.

 

[Neonian]

I think they have a certain amount inside of him already, but they can gather more since they're already toads.

 

[Ciao]

The nature energy comes from living things like animals and plants so it would make sense that he was able to use it.

 

[Narutoarchive101]

I think for animals it a nature thing using and gathering natural energy if you remember what fukasaku said and back in that episode when naruto was training to use sage jutsu if you also remembered gamakichi was already knowledgable about natural energy and could see it so more than like he could also use it....

 

[Penguin]

I think they have it in them.

 

[7PathSage]

Im pretty sure from the sage arc all the frogs are nature energy masters naturally. I dont know about any of the other animal summons.

 

[kickassjutsu]

Just like ma and pa, they were able to gather and use the jutsu. It shouldnt be any different for the other frogs.

 

[jaykuhz]

Most likely it's already in them.

 

[OWanime]

it comes from them as well as plants so yeah but I guess they have to train to use some ninjutsu first like oil bullet and what not xd

 

[Lost Woods Denizen]

I am not positive if the toads naturally mold sage chakra within them, since Pa toad had to demonstrate to Naruto the benefits of sage chakra by gathering the chakra to lift a giant toad statue. If it came naturally I do not see why it would be necessary to gather more. The best theory that I can think of is that no, the toads do not naturally have senjutsu chakra all the time, but by being masters and teachers of the art, they are more adept at molding it (speed wise and quality wise) and therefore have the choice of utilizing it in every one of their attacks.

Sage mode is shown to have a time limit which increases as the user becomes more proficient in its use (Naruto has constantly been shown to increase the amount of time that he spends in sage mode,) thus the toads who have probably been training in the arts since the beginning of their normal combat training have a longer limit. What do you think?

 

[ShadowBandit]

I am not positive if the toads naturally mold sage chakra within them, since Pa toad had to demonstrate to Naruto the benefits of sage chakra by gathering the chakra to lift a giant toad statue. If it came naturally I do not see why it would be necessary to gather more. The best theory that I can think of is that no, the toads do not naturally have senjutsu chakra all the time, but by being masters and teachers of the art, they are more adept at molding it (speed wise and quality wise) and therefore have the choice of utilizing it in every one of their attacks.

Sage mode is shown to have a time limit which increases as the user becomes more proficient in its use (Naruto has constantly been shown to increase the amount of time that he spends in sage mode,) thus the toads who have probably been training in the arts since the beginning of their normal combat training have a longer limit. What do you think?

That what I've always thought, that animals are more intune with nature, so they can access natural energy better than humans can. I never thought that it came naturally with all of their attacks.

It just makes me wonder, since we saw a lot of frog statues, are we made to believe that all those giant statues are humans who failed, or are some of them toads that actually failed at senjustu training. Since some of those statues are huge, it makes more sense to have some them be actually toads since they can grow to be that size. As when we saw pain absorb natural energy, the pain puppet didn't enlarge and turn into a toad statue, it stayed the relatively same size.

I just think its either on error on Kishi's part, an error that doesn't really matter. Or we are just to assume before he launched his attacked he gathered some natural energy.