Senju immunity to genjutsu?

[KingHashirama]

Just got a weird idea, Senju can be immune to genjutsu. Here is why i'm saying this.

We all know Senju have the most powerful chakras and the highest chakra control (Shown by Hashirama, Tobirama, Tsunade). Since Tsunade is a mix and not a full blood senju , and she has that strong off a chakra, it only gives ideas about how strong the other senju who were top tier must've been.


And then we know the way to break ANY genjutsu is chakra disruption. And the Senju disrupt there chakra on a whim.So basically they can break out of genjutsu easily. Even Itachi acknowledged this was one of the ways you can break out of his genjutsu , when tried to do it, but Itachi stated he was too weak.



What do you think of this weird idea?? *_*

 

[Dantee]

I don't think the amount of chakra you possess makes a difference. No one is "immune" to genjutsu some have abilities or specialties that help them break it easier or see through it faster.

 

[KingHashirama]

I don't think the amount of chakra you possess makes a difference.

No bro, i mean powerful chakra, like this:

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[The Necromancer]

If that were true, tailed beasts couldn't be controlled by the sharingan.

 

[KingHashirama]

If that were true, tailed beasts couldn't be controlled by the sharingan.

Tailed beasts haven't shown the ability to even control chakra on the level of Tsunade and Sakura and man others..... So how can they possibly disrupt it?

 

[Joon]

Um..... Izanagi? Many times it was used by Uchiha against countless foes, especially Senju. What you saying is a no. No one is immune. I assumed, they battle Uchiha's so long, they found ways to avoid Genjutsu which is way Uchiha found it pointless to use Genjutsu against them. Just an assumption, do not take it as fact.

 

[Dantee]

No bro, i mean powerful chakra, like this:

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Nah. I don't think powerful chakra gives you immunity to genjutsu.

 

[KingHashirama]

Um..... Izanagi? Many times it was used by Uchiha against countless foes, especially Senju. What you saying is a no? No one is immune. I assumed, they battle Uchiha's so long, they found ways avoid Genjutsu which is way Uchiha found it pointless to use Genjutsu against them. Just an assumption, do not take it as fact.

Izanagi is used on yourself, not others.

Nah. I don't think powerful chakra gives you immunity to genjutsu.

Not even a way of breaking it?

 

[The Necromancer]

Tailed beasts haven't shown the ability to even control chakra on the level of Tsunade and Sakura and man others..... So how can they possibly disrupt it?

You specifically mentioned powerful chakra. Hashirama hasn't shown any above average chakra control, yet you specifically referenced his powerful chakra. Tailed beasts are able to form, control, and manipulate chakra in their TBB with ease, a technique that naruto struggled with even after mastering rasengan, a technique specifically created to make TBB creation easier.

 

[Draphsin]

The senju can break genjutsu just as anybody else can, of course they have an easier time doing it. However there are exceptions to this rule such as sound genjutsu which nagato should logically have been able to break going by this logic.

Anyways the main danger of genjutsu is that it creates an opening, while the person is disrupting their own chakra they can be susceptible to an attack.

This is why I believe Hashi created B-o-d, it completely removes the possibility of a uchiha trapping him in an ocular genjutsu which gets rid of that opening.

 

[KingHashirama]

You specifically mentioned powerful chakra. Hashirama hasn't shown any above average chakra control, yet you specifically referenced his powerful chakra. Tailed beasts are able to form, control, and manipulate chakra in their TBB with ease, a technique that naruto struggled with even after mastering rasengan, a technique specifically created to make TBB creation easier.

reread bro : " powerful chakras and the highest chakra control"

Regeneration of the body already puts him above average.... Taking hold of the Bijuu bomb and using it like a rasengan..... above average... Able to do all that crazy shit and creativity with Mokuton.... above average..

Naruto had to master it, do the Bijuus? no. On top of that was Naruto breaking rooms with just turning into KCM or BM? no....To the bijuus its natural, since they are made of chakra.....

The senju can break genjutsu just as anybody else can, of course they have an easier time doing it. However there are exceptions to this rule such as sound genjutsu which nagato should logically have been able to break going by this logic.

Anyways the main danger of genjutsu is that it creates an opening, while the person is disrupting their own chakra they can be susceptible to an attack.

This is why I believe Hashi created B-o-d, it completely removes the possibility of a uchiha trapping him in an ocular genjutsu which gets rid of that opening.

That is true, but people like Hiruzen have shown to even sense while in Genjutsu. And Nagato doesn't have powerful chakra... he has huge quantity of chakra.. but powerful like Tobirama and Hashirama? no.


Though if they created techniques to avoid getting caught in genjutsu, i do hope they are shown, so it would make the whole Senju > Uchiha understandable.

 

[Prime Rib]

The uchiha clan all memebers possess strong powerfull chakra and they arent immune to genjutsu but can break it with sharingan etc.

The senju i believe can break the genjutsu if they themselves are skilled in it

 

[The Necromancer]

reread bro : " powerful chakras and the highest chakra control"

Regeneration of the body already puts him above average.... Taking hold of the Bijuu bomb and using it like a rasengan..... above average... Able to do all that crazy shit and creativity with Mokuton.... above average..

Naruto had to master it, do the Bijuus? no. On top of that was Naruto breaking rooms with just turning into KCM or BM? no....To the bijuus its natural, since they are made of chakra.....

Having strong chakra does not make you good at using it. Naruto can make 1000 clones. Why? He has enough chakra to probably make 1500, yet his lack of control limits his productivity. Hashi has a lot of chakra, as all senju do. We have no way to determine his control, but as there has been no reference to it (while there has for naruto, Tsunade, and Sakura) it's impossible to say.

I say you're wrong.
You say you're right. It doesn't matter in the end.

 

[KingHashirama]

Having strong chakra does not make you good at using it. Naruto can make 1000 clones. Why? He has enough chakra to probably make 1500, yet his lack of control limits his productivity. Hashi has a lot of chakra, as all senju do. We have no way to determine his control, but as there has been no reference to it (while there has for naruto, Tsunade, and Sakura) it's impossible to say.

I say you're wrong.
You say you're right. It doesn't matter in the end.

Strong chakra =/= high level chakra. For example, Tsunade undoubtedly has shown the best chakra control... Same for Sakura.. But the thing is Hashirama and Tobirama do have control over their chakra. Tobirama first put his hand on the wall softly, and then put cracks in it with chakra prowess.

And this is just a idea bro, no wrong or right answer here *_*. We are just discussing the possibility.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Tsukyomi is a 100% gaurantee gen they cant break free from

 

[KingHashirama]

Tsukyomi is a 100% gaurantee gen they cant break free from

Jiraiya disagrees. Itachi agrees.

Though i'll take Jiraiya on this one.

 

[Lightbringer]

Jiraiya disagrees. Itachi agrees.

Though i'll take Jiraiya on this one.

when did jiraiya break free from tsukuyomi?

 

[Aya San]

How are you going to disrupt chakra when you're immobile? Naruto showed us that you have to do the handseal thing

 

[KingHashirama]

when did jiraiya break free from tsukuyomi?

He after seeing Sasuke fall into it, and after knowing what happened to Kakashi, specifically trained Naruto for Itachi. Do you really believes he has no information on MS genjutsu?

How are you going to disrupt chakra when you're immobile? Naruto showed us that you have to do the handseal thing

SAme way Naruto was going to, but Itachi said he was too weak.

 

[Owarij]

And then we know the way to break ANY genjutsu is chakra disruption.

Bringer Of Darkness, Itachi's Tsukyomi, Izanami

Think you should what emphasized "Any" means

He after seeing Sasuke fall into it, and after knowing what happened to Kakashi, specifically trained Naruto for Itachi. Do you really believes he has no information on MS genjutsu?

Jiraya saw Sasuke get hit by a genjutsu.. he didn't even see Itachi activate MS, he was facing Itachi's back... The 2nd is pure speculation...

And lol? yea he trained Naruto to fight Itachi, and trained him in kai method of breaking genjutsu.. If he REALLY knew of MS genjutsu, esp Itachi's MS genjutsu, he'd give naruto the advice Kakashi gave , don't look in his eyes AT all, because kai won't work on Itachi's tsukyomi

Your very own claim contradicts your statement.. Unless you think Jiraya sent naruto to be captured and killed