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Cause he isn't weak.......

Dude.... go look at my threads.. and actually see how many threads out of the total were about Hashirama before actually saying stuff..... lmao.

Hashirama's powers: Strongest chakra, Better Mokuton, Weapon master, Scroll of Seals, Many other seals......... So how exactly can't he take Madara on?
we never seen hashirama use any seals so you can't just jump to conclusions on what kind they are

We've seen Madara fooled around the whole time and created the wood dragon.....it looked exactly the same as the wood dragon Hashirama used.....hashirama just used other techs along with it

you can't really compare who's better until we see them go toe to toe with it. It's not like Madara wasn't effective with mokuton, he was incredibly effective

where does it say he was a better weapon master? Again you're comparing the EMS Madara to Hashirama

Madara now has rinnegan.....do you know what that means? It means he has mastery over all of the elements and capable of using any jutsu he desires

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The senju clan was the strongest clan followed by the uchiha clan. Edo Madara HIMSELF said that only Hashirama could face him. That says a lot about the 1st Hokage.

-Also, it seems that people are forgetting that the SO6P had two sons. I think that the older one had the EYES and the younger one the BODY. We don't know who won that fight. Saying that the Uchiha clan wins because they have OP jutsus isn't true because the Senju knew more then a 1000 jutsus.

-Tobi says himself that the Senjus were the strongest clan in CHAPTER 399, first page.
-Chapter 624 shows that they were better overall then the Uchiha clan
-In chapter 462, we can clearly see that the older son of the SO6P had the RINNEGAN. Having the most powerful eyes in the serie didn't garanty him a victory over the younger brother.

Senju>Uchihas but not by a wide margin. They are still the two best clans in the manga.
 

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LOL FAIL

and I never said Hashirama has no chance, I said he isn't as powerful as Rinnegan Madara who has mokuton, rinnegan, juubi, and EMS

.....WOW HE CRACKED A ROOM ERMAHGERD.....and Madara summoned two meteors.....which is more impressive? U_U
lol your really bragging that madara needs hashirama cells in order to defeat hashirama? that just might be the saddest thing I have seen in a while. You uchiha boys are really grasping at straws arent you.
 

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lol your really bragging that madara needs hashirama cells in order to defeat hashirama? that just might be the saddest thing I have seen in a while. You uchiha boys are really grasping at straws arent you.
Power is power

DNA is something you're born with, not trained....and it seems that Hashirama was born with stronger DNA

Hashirama was using a summon.....I guess that means it's not his strength

Hashirama was using ninjutsu, which was something that SO6P invented.....I guess that means it's not his power


Naruto is using the kyuubi's power

Sasuke is using Itachi's eyes

Orochimaru uses senju DNA

The sword can be wielded by many people......what matters is how good they are with it.

Madara took Hashirama's sword and added it to his arsenal.
 
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the only reason madara need the first hokage cells is so he can have both sides of the dna of the SO6P the first would have to do the same to the uchiha if he wanted to be as strong as the SO6P
lol your really bragging that madara needs hashirama cells in order to defeat hashirama? that just might be the saddest thing I have seen in a while. You uchiha boys are really grasping at straws arent you.
 

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lol your really bragging that madara needs hashirama cells in order to defeat hashirama? that just might be the saddest thing I have seen in a while. You uchiha boys are really grasping at straws arent you.
Lets not fuel the flame here. Madara displayed overwhelming power in VoTE fight, and could have easily deny SM to hashirama and kill him there. He never needed hashi power for that, but the plot wouldnt be the same would it?
 

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Power is power

DNA is something you're born with, not trained....and it seems that Hashirama was born with stronger DNA

Hashirama was using a summon.....I guess that means it's not his strength

Hashirama was using ninjutsu, which was something that SO6P invented.....I guess that means it's not his power


The sword can be wielded by many people......what matters is how good they are with it.

Madara took Hashirama's sword and added it to his arsenal.
Your born with the ability to summon. you need to have the chakra and talent and then train with the tech. And they didnt steal anything from the so6p, the sage tought the world jutsu and it carried over. DNA is not the same as a sword it is something your born with and therefore something you can be proud of. If madara had been born with the ability to use moukton or if hashi had tought him how and madara trained for it then he could be proud of it. BUt all he did was steal it. Madara wasnt strong enough to beat hashi ON HIS OWN it makes him look bad. And the fact that you cant see that just shows the damage control mode all you madara fans are in. Lol and im not even a hashirama fan I could take him or leave him
 

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Lets not fuel the flame here. Madara displayed overwhelming power in VoTE fight, and could have easily deny SM to hashirama and kill him there. He never needed hashi power for that, but the plot wouldnt be the same would it?

And you cant just call hashi winning a plot device, everything in this manga every fact every detail is technically plot. Its a moot point
 

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Senju Clan of Sages
of Shinrin (forest in japanese)
of Jōmon Sugi (oldest living tree in possibly the world located in japan Yakushima Kagoshima The Osumi Island est 5,000 to 7,000 y/o )
 

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And you cant just call hashi winning a plot device, everything in this manga every fact every detail is technically plot. Its a moot point
Sure i can call it. When i see a character with the great power. And his opponent doesnt have the ability to counter that power at all times. It can mean many thing, like PIS/CIS or poor kishi writing. W/e it is in my mind that character loses despite the written outcome.
I played mmorpg for years, and i know all too well, how much it sux not to be able to counter KO attack in time. Timing is of essence in any fight. Despite ur excuse, or kishi writing, madara could have won easily. Cuz SM is great power, but it takes preparation which u dont have while in middle of fight
 

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fact is when madara fought hashi he hadn't unlock all of his powers the 2nd hokage even siad the uchiha power is stornger than senju,when madara unlocked all of his power he unlocked perfect susanoo power equal to the 10 tails....10 tails. and the rinnegan the original eyes of SO6P which does everything...wood not going to stop the raw power to change reality.plus madara has all hashi's power because of his cells lol, y will madara lose? lol tell me ....plz
 

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fact is when madara fought hashi he hadn't unlock all of his powers the 2nd hokage even siad the uchiha power is stornger than senju,when madara unlocked all of his power he unlocked perfect susanoo power equal to the 10 tails....10 tails. and the rinnegan the original eyes of SO6P which does everything...wood not going to stop the raw power to change reality.plus madara has all hashi's power because of his cells lol, y will madara lose? lol tell me ....plz
When the hell did this happen? lmao.
 
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