Senju and Uchiha related questions for all. PLEASE ANSWER

[KingHashirama]

Ok this thread isn't about strength, but just questions. To help me better in my debates/arguments.

1. Do you consider Hashirama part of the whole "Senju + Uchiha = SO6P" or as a modern "SO6P"?

2. Killer B = Naruto or Killer B > Naruto or Naruto > Killer B?

3. Is Killer B not going at his full potential?

4. Is Edo tensei like any other summoning or different?

5. Do you consider all summonings the same?

6. Is everything in your arsenal your power?

7. SO6P a Uzumaki OR "senju + Uchiha"?

 

[Omnipotent]

Senju + Uchiha = Rinnegan

Naruto > Killer Bee.

He is.

Different.

No.

Not necessarily. Like Orochimaru's Edo Tensei.

SO6P wasn't in a clan as far as we know. He couldn't have been an Uzumaki, because then Uchiha would have been stated to be related to the Uzumaki as well.

 

[Dantee]

1. Are you for real :|

2. Naruto >>>>Killer Bee

3. Killer Bee is fodder when it comes to Edo Madara, Obito and Uchiha in general

4. Edo Tensei is a summoning that controls the dead and you are able to use the powers they previously had with no limitations. Like it or not it's one of the ultimate jutsus.

5. Some are better than others.

6. Yes

7. He's a Senju/Uzamaki + Uchiha

 

[KingHashirama]

Senju + Uchiha = Rinnegan

Naruto > Killer Bee.

He is.

Different.

No.

Not necessarily. Like Orochimaru's Edo Tensei.

SO6P wasn't in a clan as far as we know. He couldn't have been an Uzumaki, because then Uchiha would have been stated to be related to the Uzumaki as well.

You didn't answer the first question dawg.

1. Are you for real :|

2. Naruto >>>>Killer Bee

3. Killer Bee is fodder when it comes to Edo Madara, Obito and Uchiha in general

4. Edo Tensei is a summoning that controls the dead and you are able to use the powers they previously had with no limitations. Like it or not it's one of the ultimate jutsus.

5. Some are better than others.

6. Yes

7. He's a Senju/Uzamaki + Uchiha

I was asking you does Hashirama count as "Senju + Uchiha" since he has the mokuton and etc..

So your basically putting the Uzumaki under the senju therefore following the "Senju + UChiha" fact and no the Uzumaki = SO6P theory right?

 

[Joten Uchiha]

No, SSOSP was godlike, Hashirama was a Kage.

Naruto> Killer Bee

He could be doing alot more i feel personally..

Edo Tensei could be considered the ultimate summoning as it violates the rules of life and death

No, some summonings are way more powerful than others

SSOSP died way before Uchiha AND Senju were even established clans.

 

[KidGamer65]

Ok this thread isn't about strength, but just questions. To help me better in my debates/arguments.

1. Do you consider Hashirama part of the whole "Senju + Uchiha = SO6P" or as a modern "SO6P"?

2. Killer B = Naruto or Killer B > Naruto or Naruto > Killer B?

3. Is Killer B not going at his full potential?

4. Is Edo tensei like any other summoning or different?

5. Do you consider all summonings the same?

6. Is everything in your arsenal your power?

7. SO6P a Uzumaki OR "senju + Uchiha"?

1. I just consider him as one half of the equation, Senju+Uchiha=Rikudou.

2. Naruto>Killer B.

3. Yes, Madara was just a bad match up for him (Mokuton)

4. The ritual makes it different, but after that, it is just like any other summoning.

5. Yes.

6. Yes.

7. He is a hybrid of Senju and Uchiha as stated in the manga.

 

[KingHashirama]

No, SSOSP was godlike, Hashirama was a Kage.

Naruto> Killer Bee

He could be doing alot more i feel personally..

Edo Tensei could be considered the ultimate summoning as it violates the rules of life and death

No, some summonings are way more powerful than others

SSOSP died way before Uchiha AND Senju were even established clans.

nononon..you didn't get the question, what I asked was if Hashirama could be considered a normal Senju aka the younger son.. OR is he more like a SO6P for the modern ninja world? His Dna isn't a typical senju dna.

1. I just consider him as one half of the equation, Senju+Uchiha=Rikudou.

2. Naruto>Killer B.

3. Yes, Madara was just a bad match up for him (Mokuton)

4. The ritual makes it different, but after that, it is just like any other summoning.

5. Yes.

6. Yes.

7. He is a hybrid of Senju and Uchiha as stated in the manga.

Oh ok,

Why on the Naruto > killer B?

Well besides that, I mean he can do the same thing like make clones and etc. But why does he not? Does he not know how to make clones? thats what i meant.

 

[KidGamer65]

nononon..you didn't get the question, what I asked was if Hashirama could be considered a normal Senju aka the younger son.. OR is he more like a SO6P for the modern ninja world? His Dna isn't a typical senju dna.




Oh ok,

Why on the Naruto > killer B?

Well besides that, I mean he can do the same thing like make clones and etc. But why does he not? Does he not know how to make clones? thats what i meant.

Killer B can't makes clones in Bijuu Mode, the only reason Naruto can make clones and has access to his other jutsu in Bijuu Mode is because his Bijuu Mode is special, he can still make hand signs because he doesn't turn into his Bijuu, the Kurama cloak extends from his already present cloak..

Also Naruto's Bijuu being stronger than B's bijuu plays a big factor here, Naruto's TBB's are stronger than Bee's, Naruto is much faster than Bee, he can still use clones due to how is BM is, he can sense using SM Clones, he has chakra arms/chakra tails (Tails in Full BM, arms in Human BM).

 

[KingHashirama]

Killer B can't makes clones in Bijuu Mode, the only reason Naruto can make clones and has access to his other jutsu in Bijuu Mode is because his Bijuu Mode is special, he can still make hand signs because he doesn't turn into his Bijuu, the Kurama cloak extends from his already present cloak..

Also Naruto's Bijuu being stronger than B's bijuu plays a big factor here, Naruto's TBB's are stronger than Bee's, Naruto is much faster than Bee, he can still use clones due to how is BM is, he can sense using SM Clones, he has chakra arms/chakra tails (Tails in Full BM, arms in Human BM).

But Killer B can simply do the same thing Naruto did, Make clones before going in Bijuu mode. See what i mean?
Also, I don't think his BM is FAR superior to Killer B's... but superior by a small margain. I don't think there is a big difference between the second strongest tailed beast and the first strongest tailed beast.

 

[KidGamer65]

But Killer B can simply do the same thing Naruto did, Make clones before going in Bijuu mode. See what i mean?
Also, I don't think his BM is FAR superior to Killer B's... but superior by a small margain. I don't think there is a big difference between the second strongest tailed beast and the first strongest tailed beast.

Well, his Human clones are still inferior to Naruto's BM clones, and BM Naruto himself, who can clear them all out with a chakra roar or a TBB.

And yes, there is a noticeable difference, even Bee and the Hachibi know it:

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[KingHashirama]

Well, his Human clones are still inferior to Naruto's BM clones, and BM Naruto himself, who can clear them all out with a chakra roar or a TBB.

And yes, there is a noticeable difference, even Bee and the Hachibi know it:

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Well, he can just go into the 6-tails chakra for his clones. instead of going BM like Naruto. It would still be Usefull you know.

I believe he was just casually saying that the 9-tails is hella strong. Because before he did tell the 9-tails that more tails don't equal stronger beast. Maybe he was refering to himself?

 

[KidGamer65]

Well, he can just go into the 6-tails chakra for his clones. instead of going BM like Naruto. It would still be Usefull you know.

I believe he was just casually saying that the 9-tails is hella strong. Because before he did tell the 9-tails that more tails don't equal stronger beast. Maybe he was refering to himself?

6-Talied clones are still trumped by BM Clones, and he wasn't just saying it casually...he was viewing its power and he knew it was considerably greater than his, so he was shocked..and when he said that he was saying that tails alone isn't a deciding factor in who is more powerful...the Kyuubi is still the strongest, but tails alone isn't the right way to judge it as Gyuki said.

 

[KingHashirama]

6-Talied clones are still trumped by BM Clones, and he wasn't just saying it casually...he was viewing its power and he knew it was considerably greater than his, so he was shocked..and when he said that he was saying that tails alone isn't a deciding factor in who is more powerful...the Kyuubi is still the strongest, but tails alone isn't the right way to judge it as Gyuki said.

But the thing is Naruto's Bm is barely 10-minutes. Well I agree with you now ^_^.