Second Mizukage & Kisame vs Minato & Tobirama

[ARGUS]

Second Mizukage & Kisame vs Minato & Tobirama​

--Minato is base
--All characters are alive


Location: Destroyed Konoha
Starting Distance: 65m
Intel: NONE apart from Team 1 knowing about FTG,
Intent: To Kill
Mindset: IC
Restrictions: ET, frog song, MA&PA

Who Wins?

 

[Touken]

They really can't do anything about the Mizukage's genjutsu if finger sensing doesn't work.

 

[DMT]

Actually senseing abilities are useless against the clam
it has been already explained that only Gaara's sand
can sense it, with Edo Tensei and sm restricted I think
team 1 wins mid-high difficulty

 

[TRE MERCER]

Kisame can solo.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kisame can solo.

...Log out.

 

[Conspirator.]

First off, can the 2nd mizukage control who gets put under the genjutsu? Either way with no knowledge, I think team 1 wins high diff.

 

[Beans2]

...Log out.

He's not wrong actually, imo. Kisame would do better on his own than with the 2nd mizukage present.

 

[KidGamer65]

He's not wrong actually, imo. Kisame would do better on his own than with the 2nd mizukage present.

Lol, stop. Kisame is not soloing both of them. That is pure wank right there.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Lol, stop. Kisame is not soloing both of them. That is pure wank right there.

What can Minato and Tobirama do once Kisame absorbs Samehada. Ftg is useless all of there other techs is uselss.

Enough with ftg wank.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Kisame can't use his Water Dome while his team member is present. And how can 2nd Mizukage can't his genjutsu without Affecting Kisame as well?

 

[KidGamer65]

What can Minato and Tobirama do once Kisame absorbs Samehada. Ftg is useless all of there other techs is uselss.

Enough with ftg wank.

Lol. You are the last one to talk about wank. All they need to do is mark each other and use

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to end this guy. Gamabunta attacks Minato with his Toad Sword Beheading,

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and Tobirama grabs Kisame just like he did to Juubito, then they swap places and Kisame ends up losing half of his body.

This is assuming he doesn't get killed before he ever makes it Kisamehada mode.

 

[Beans2]

Kisame can't use his Water Dome while his team member is present. And how can 2nd Mizukage can't his genjutsu without Affecting Kisame as well?

That's why I'm saying Kisame would do better on his own. If he uses water dome, there will be an invisible space devoid of water where the clam is, so Minato and Tobirama would see it and destroy the clam.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Lol. You are the last one to talk about wank. All they need to do is mark each other and use

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to end this guy. Gamabunta attacks Minato with his Toad Sword Beheading,

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and Tobirama grabs Kisame just like he did to Juubito, then they swap places and Kisame ends up losing half of his body.

This is assuming he doesn't get killed before he ever makes it Kisamehada mode.

The distance is 65 meters there not blitzing shit from this range. Once he absorbs Samehada water dome comes out. The he goes in for a full assault. GSB would annihilate Gamabunta they can ftg dodge all day long but Kisame has more chakra so in a battle of outlasting Kisame wins that aswell. They literally have no way to stop him once fused with Samehada. On top of that Kisame can use water clones to confused the duo. There is no way possible they can win.

 

[slaton02]

Kisame probably would solo tbh. Waterdome shark dance is Minatos worst match up tech. His speed and FTG is neutralized, and the fact Kisame can absorb chakra just by touch there is nothing Tobirama or Minato can do. ET kamakaze is the only thing that would hurt Kisame bur ET is restricted.
Plus you have the muzukage able to become water, clam genjutsu and steam emp.

Team mist mid diff. It's a bad matchup imo
Waterdome would be a death pit filled with a shark monster, 1000 sharks, steam emp, water beast.

 

[KidGamer65]

The distance is 65 meters there not blitzing shit from this range. Once he absorbs Samehada water dome comes out. The he goes in for a full assault. GSB would annihilate Gamabunta they can ftg dodge all day long but Kisame has more chakra so in a battle of outlasting Kisame wins that aswell. They literally have no way to stop him once fused with Samehada. On top of that Kisame can use water clones to confused the duo. There is no way possible they can win.

-Never said they blitz, so you must be reading something else. Using Goshun Mawashi doesn't require them to blitz, it only requires them to touch Kisame. Not to mention they can get in range and blitz with Hiraishin Kunai if the Dome isn't out of place. Tobirama can link to Minato's markings and teleport to them, and they can each make a clone or two. If Kisame isn't in the dome when they get in range, he gets lolblitzed. No way its not going to happen, not against two Hiraishin users.

-Great Shark Bullet gets sucked in by Space Time Barrier and warped away.

-Water Dome isn't an issue here. They can each make Shadow Clones, have them swim in the opposite direction and Kisame has to chase after one of them, which will let anyone who isn't being chased escape the Dome. Since he won't be able to tell which of the Minatos and Tobiramas is the original, using this method they both escape. Or Minato can summon a Toad, mark it, and have it swim in the opposite direction. If it gets out, they can warp to it. If they get out...well, they get out.

-Water Clones contain 10% of the original's chakra, Minato and Tobiram are both sensors, it won't be hard to tell which one is the original one.

 

[slaton02]

-Never said they blitz, so you must be reading something else. Using Goshun Mawashi doesn't require them to blitz, it only requires them to touch Kisame. Not to mention they can get in range and blitz with Hiraishin Kunai if the Dome isn't out of place. Tobirama can link to Minato's markings and teleport to them, and they can each make a clone or two. If Kisame isn't in the dome when they get in range, he gets lolblitzed. No way its not going to happen, not against two Hiraishin users.

-Great Shark Bullet gets sucked in by Space Time Barrier and warped away.

-Water Dome isn't an issue here. They can each make Shadow Clones, have them swim in the opposite direction and Kisame has to chase after one of them, which will let anyone who isn't being chased escape the Dome. Since he won't be able to tell which of the Minatos and Tobiramas is the original, using this method they both escape. Or Minato can summon a Toad, mark it, and have it swim in the opposite direction. If it gets out, they can warp to it. If they get out...well, they get out.

-Water Clones contain 10% of the original's chakra, Minato and Tobiram are both sensors, it won't be hard to tell which one is the original one.

Sorry but no, Kisame would have water sharks and clones chasing them as well. Them making it out of the dome is highly unlikely and if one some how gets out what can he possibly do to help the other? I don't see how they could kill either, and we are not even talkin about mizukage. I'm a tobirama fan but even I kniw he can win this.

 

[KidGamer65]

Sorry but no, Kisame would have water sharks and clones chasing them as well. Them making it out of the dome is highly unlikely and if one some how gets out what can he possibly do to help the other? I don't see how they could kill either, and we are not even talkin about mizukage. I'm a tobirama fan but even I kniw he can win this.

His Sharks can't take hits and his Clones are fodder, they can be wiped out by Gamabunta's attacks with ease allowing them to continue the chase. Not to mention the original Kisame is the focus of the dome, it doesn't matter if he has clones chasing them unless he doesn't do anything himself, and if he doesn't then his clones get obliterated and they continue on.

@bold: He claimed that Kisame can solo, so of course he's not involved. Together they'd win, but no one is soloing.

 

[slaton02]

His Sharks can't take hits and his Clones are fodder, they can be wiped out by Gamabunta's attacks with ease allowing them to continue the chase. Not to mention the original Kisame is the focus of the dome, it doesn't matter if he has clones chasing them unless he doesn't do anything himself, and if he doesn't then his clones get obliterated and they continue on.

@bold: He claimed that Kisame can solo, so of course he's not involved. Together they'd win, but no one is soloing.

5 man eating sharks tanked and healed from Gais punches and kicks. Plus we are talking about 1000 6th gate gai who has faster and wider range punches could not take them all on without noon tiger which had island size explosion. Water dome is huge Kisame won't have to move and if he does matters little. Sharks and clone take on minato and tobi till Kisame finish gama with GSB. Then Kisame picks them off 1 at a time. Possibly both if they are not far apart. Kisame is faster than them by at least 3x under water they are not escaping.

Let's say 1 does get out. Kisame would just kill the other then target the remaining 1 and they're back in waterdome. If the touch kisamehada their chakra would absorbed and get pierced by spikes. Bee who has more chakra than both combine could barely use a jutsu after being hit.

 

[sharingansennin]

His Sharks can't take hits and his Clones are fodder, they can be wiped out by Gamabunta's attacks with ease allowing them to continue the chase. Not to mention the original Kisame is the focus of the dome, it doesn't matter if he has clones chasing them unless he doesn't do anything himself, and if he doesn't then his clones get obliterated and they continue on.

@bold: He claimed that Kisame can solo, so of course he's not involved. Together they'd win, but no one is soloing.

a 30% clone beat Team Gai(Lee, Neji, Tenten) neg difficulty and forced Gai to use high gates

 

[KidGamer65]

5 man eating sharks tanked and healed from Gais punches and kicks. Plus we are talking about 1000 6th gate gai who has faster and wider range punches could not take them all on without noon tiger which had island size explosion. Water dome is huge Kisame won't have to move and if he does matters little. Sharks and clone take on minato and tobi till Kisame finish gama with GSB. Then Kisame picks them off 1 at a time. Possibly both if they are not far apart. Kisame is faster than them by at least 3x under water they are not escaping.

Scans of the bold please. I just need to see.

Sharks and fodder water clones with aren't going to defeat Minato, Tobirama, and their clones...which are Shadow Clones, meaning they aren't fodder, and like I said above, GSB gets absorbed via Space Time Barrier.

If he comes after them directly, no, they won't escape. But he won't know which ones to go after since he can't tell the difference between clones and the original.

If you are talking about his a thousand feeding sharks attack, Gai destroyed them all with Hirudora. Hirudora was for GSB. Either way, S/T Barrier would block and absorb the Thousand Feeding Sharks and send them away, as its merely a giant wall of sharks coming down at the opponent. [

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] Any other sharks get obliterated by Gamabunta's attacks.

Let's say 1 does get out. Kisame would just kill the other then target the remaining 1 and they're back in waterdome. If the touch kisamehada their chakra would absorbed and get pierced by spikes. Bee who has more chakra than both combine could barely use a jutsu after being hit.

Not only did Samehada take a liking to his chakra (Meaning it absorbed more than usual at a time) that was after Kisame had hit him multiple times with Samehada.

a 30% clone beat Team Gai(Lee, Neji, Tenten) neg difficulty and forced Gai to use high gates

That was a clone of Kisame made from Nagato's jutsu. We're talking about Water Clones. They turn into water after 1 hit and they only have 10% of the user's chakra.