Second hokage: Reason for everyone's downfall

ayush0735

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I think the role second hokage plays in narutoverse is much greater than anyone people think it is. How??

- He is the one who created edo jutsu. Without him, no edo would have been created that led the most of the destruction in this war (including Madara)

- he is the one who created time space ninjutsu which tobi used to fool everyone and make believe that he is invincible. (Tobi probably learnt it from Madara who saw Tobirama using it. Also, Madara doesnt use it coz he would rather use his chakra to create Susanoo)

- He created a system to check Uchihas in Konoha which ultimately led to the hatred and the war. If this were not the case, Itachi and the other Uchihas would have been a part of Konoha.

Also, I think Tobirama died not coz he was weak but that he wanted rto save his pupils. Since, he can use Time space ninju he could have saved him. However, I think he could use it as efficiently as Obito and thus decided to die for his pupil rather than getting them killed( same as Jiraiya)
 

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really really tobi uses his kamui for space time ninjutsu i didint know tobirama had a sharingan
 

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Personally I like Tobirama very much and I don't disagree with his actions...
But your second statements about S/T???
Boy you failed your hole thread.
Kamui is an advanced dojutsu technique which is granted by mangekyo sharingan.
It's a kekkei genkai technique,it's pretty unique (only two users), it grants another dimension for the user in which you can go in and out,you can store weapons to use for a fight etc,etc, not just moving around places which are marked etc,etc.
It's an Uchiha unique technique more advanced than any known S/T jutsu and I am pretty sure Tobirama had nothing to do with the inventing of the technique as Madara had nothing to do with the teaching of this technique.
 

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the 2nd didn't have kamui
 

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If anyone to be blame, blame the Juubi. However, if you want to stay according to history, blame the Sage kids.
 

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tobi uses Kamui and its used for being intangible but he may have learnt Space time jutsu from madara

but I am not sure how he integrated it his MS abilities

Tobirama was hokage he did separate uchiha's for safety of village
he was not weak at all he had fought many Uchiha's
may be was on par with Izuna was had MS abilities similar to Madara so he can't be weak
 
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tobi uses Kamui and its used for being intangible but he may have learnt Space time jutsu from madara

but I am not sure how he integrated it his MS abilities

Tobirama was hokage he did separate uchiha's for safety of village
he was not weak at all he had fought many Uchiha's
may be was on par with Izuna was had MS abilities similar to Madara so he can't be weak
And how did Kakashi learn S/T jutsus??He had secret classes with Madara??
 

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And how did Kakashi learn S/T jutsus??He had secret classes with Madara??

kakashi is genius....

he figured out Kamui's and its abilities.
Kakashi came back from other dimension when tobi sent him there but he can't go to place like tobi can for example here

and I was talking about this one
 

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Oops.. I guess one cannot trust naruto wikia.



here it says that tobirama can use time space ninjutsu
 
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