[Discussion] Screw Attacks Failures

[BrillyMac]

I like some of their videos but i dont think people should take every one of their videos for facts. Lol ironic since they use facts for their videos but they dont use all the facts. Example: Batman vs Spiderman. Batman has beaten darkseid. Spiderman cant dream of beating darkseid. Screw attack doesnt add all of the character traits to their videos (more specifically that one, it irritated me alot). Like seriously, hes batman. Spiderman is spiderman. Batman is a master of manipulation. Hes fights the unexpected all the time (first time he fought superman, first time he fought bane, every time he fights joker). They didnt put all the possibilities int he video. And if spidermans spidy senses were that good, he would never get hit by any enemy since he can "react" to it after "sensing" it. His spidey senses are coo but he cant dodge everything.

Also, superman beat goku. Im not denying that superman can beat goku, but the video was kinda stupid to me. At least add more sense to it. Goku can destroy a planet without going super saiyan with a simple ki blast. Superman might still win but they could add more of how and why rather than superman destroyed the earth. Thats more of a desperate fighting move than being more powerful. If you use that same desparatness to batmans situation, if he were truly desperate, he would defeat spiderman. Batman has the guts to do what other heroes cant.

 

[Lilvic92]

Nah man both of those were legit lol

I'm mad Leonardo beat Raphael, Doom beat Darth Vader, and that Raiden beat Wolverine even though that was legit too.

 

[Goetia]

You're an idiot if you think Batman would beat Darkseid in a fair fight. He can go further than other heroes, but he won't kill. Darkseid was the only exception he made to his "no-guns" and "no-kill" rules. Batman used a ****ing gun on the guy, loaded with a bullet designed for killing New Gods.

And Batman was still hit by Darkseid's Omega Beams, and was sent back in time. If anything, Batman won, but only for the greater good. Batman would not, under any circumstance, beat Darkseid in even a fist fight where Darkseid is holding back to combat a human.

 

[Commander Axe]

Stupid ****s made Toph beat Gaara. f*ck em

 

[Lilvic92]

You're an idiot if you think Batman would beat Darkseid in a fair fight. He can go further than other heroes, but he won't kill. Darkseid was the only exception he made to his "no-guns" and "no-kill" rules. Batman used a ****ing gun on the guy, loaded with a bullet designed for killing New Gods.

And Batman was still hit by Darkseid's Omega Beams, and was sent back in time. If anything, Batman won, but only for the greater good. Batman would not, under any circumstance, beat Darkseid in even a fist fight where Darkseid is holding back to combat a human.

Yeah Batman is overrated by alot of his fans, but only from a fighting standpoint. He's an awesome written character with so many great storylines in his history, but some people actually try to argue that he can defeat cosmic level characters.

 

[BrillyMac]

You're an idiot if you think Batman would beat Darkseid in a fair fight. He can go further than other heroes, but he won't kill. Darkseid was the only exception he made to his "no-guns" and "no-kill" rules. Batman used a ****ing gun on the guy, loaded with a bullet designed for killing New Gods.

And Batman was still hit by Darkseid's Omega Beams, and was sent back in time. If anything, Batman won, but only for the greater good. Batman would not, under any circumstance, beat Darkseid in even a fist fight where Darkseid is holding back to combat a human.

of course he wouldnt but if you saw the movie, batman was gona blow up darkseids world and darkseid have him props saying batman had a darkness in him that other heroes wouldnt and he was willing to kill. Thats what darkseid said. Batman doesnt fight goda fair. That would be stupid. But since hes batman, he takes risks and goes to extremes to get the job done

Stupid ****s made Toph beat Gaara. f*ck em

Yessssssssssssss! Man i feel the same way! And people take their videos for facts like gtfo

 

[Goetia]

of course he wouldnt but if you saw the movie, batman was gona blow up darkseids world and darkseid have him props saying batman had a darkness in him that other heroes wouldnt and he was willing to kill. Thats what darkseid said. Batman doesnt fight goda fair. That would be stupid. But since hes batman, he takes risks and goes to extremes to get the job done

He wouldn't have actually blown up Apokolips, not while the Justice League or their objective was still there. He was bluffing. Darkseid commended him for having the nerve to threaten Darkseid's world, even if it killed him and everyone else. It doesn't matter how Batman fights, he would lose against Darkseid. In every single scenario. The only person that can combat Darkseid is Superman. Using Darkseid's defeat at the hands of the Batman doesn't instantly mean that Batman can beat Spiderman. It's just a bad matchup.

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

That moment when Goku put up a better fight against supes while in a weaker form.
That moment when screw attack thinks sun energy is closing a gap with characters this high when frieza survived a spirit bomb with the genki of three suns and a solar system and buu had to be killed by one with the energy of the after life gohan gotenks etc and other planets plus the kaoishin realm.
They think kirby stands a chance against buu,Buu speed blitzes before kirby can even feel his little pink scrotum itch from fear. And Toph gets shitted on by gaara

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Stupid ****s made Toph beat Gaara. f*ck em

Forreal they dumb as shit.

 

[SSU]

I'm not sure on the Batman v Spiderman but Superman vs Goku was fine with me. And I'm a Goku fan lol.

Superman is a character made to be perfect and unbeatable. It's just who he was when he was created. Because of this he has asspull abilities that put him above Goku.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

I prefer cartoonholigans over them.

 

[Jack Spicer]

I agree with them. I think they make great points. Spiderman beating Batman made sense. No prep for old Batman in that video to my knowledge. If they had prep, well, then I might disagree. Love Gaara more than Toph, but go Toph! And finally, Superman will always beat Goku. #dealwithit

 

[Hokage4]

Spiderman beats Batman any day of the week.

 

[iNotorious]

Goku can destroy a planet without going super saiyan with a simple ki blast.

Prove that he can destroy a planet. Not accepting NLF statements.

Superman might still win but they could add more of how and why rather than superman destroyed the earth. Thats more of a desperate fighting move than being more powerful. If you use that same desparatness to batmans situation, if he were truly desperate, he would defeat spiderman. Batman has the guts to do what other heroes cant.

You know that there are many variants of superman.

 

[iNotorious]

I'm not sure on the Batman v Spiderman but Superman vs Goku was fine with me. And I'm a Goku fan lol.

Superman is a character made to be perfect and unbeatable. It's just who he was when he was created. Because of this he has asspull abilities that put him above Goku.

Disagreed with bold. He's nowhere perfect and he has been beaten up.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Disagreed with bold. He's nowhere perfect and he has been beaten up.

He is perfect all the way. You should not disagree with perfection.

 

[Punk Hazard]

The reason Batman beat Spider-Man was because Batman's greatest weapons are his mind and his stealth combined with martial arts. Because the Death Battles have no pre-preparedness, Batman's mind isn't THAT great of an asset in this fight. Not that Batman can't think quickly on his feet, but because Batman's mind works best at being a detective, at planning ahead. Thing is, Spider-Man has genius level intellect as well. While he's brash and naive, the only reason Spider-Man doesn't spend as much time as Batman planning things out is because of his hectic life, which requires him to just go charging into crime-fighting. He doesn't have the calm double life Batman has a multi-billionaire that can spend all his time doing whatever. Stealth means nothing to Spider-Man because of Spider Sense, and close-combat easily goes to Spider-Man. Batman is at the peak of human conditioning, Spider-Man is superhumanly strong, he knocked out a T-Rex with one punch. Batman has a lot of gadgets, but so do a lot of Spider-Man's enemies, like Goblin, which Spidey gets around just fine. It makes far more sense to Spider-Man to beat Batman. You can't say "Oh Batman randomly encountered Bane, so obviously he can handle Spider-man." Uhhh, did you forget what happened in that fight?

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Stupid ****s made Toph beat Gaara. f*ck em

This fight was also legit. Gaara tires out from using his abilities, Toph does not. There is no way of knowing what has greater control over the earthen materials, chi or chakra, so there is no way of knowing if "Toph can force control from Gaara" or "Gaara can force control from Toph" is true on either ends. Even though Gaara's attacks are of larger scale, Toph's control is just as good and she can control far more materials. Gaara was at a disadvantage because ninjutsu drains your stamina, bending doesn't. It just ended up getting to the point that Gaara ran out of chakra, so he couldn't control the sand enough to keep on fighting.

 

[chopstickchakra]

The reason Batman beat Spider-Man was because Batman's greatest weapons are his mind and his stealth combined with martial arts. Because the Death Battles have no pre-preparedness, Batman's mind isn't THAT great of an asset in this fight. Not that Batman can't think quickly on his feet, but because Batman's mind works best at being a detective, at planning ahead. Thing is, Spider-Man has genius level intellect as well. While he's brash and naive, the only reason Spider-Man doesn't spend as much time as Batman planning things out is because of his hectic life, which requires him to just go charging into crime-fighting. He doesn't have the calm double life Batman has a multi-billionaire that can spend all his time doing whatever. Stealth means nothing to Spider-Man because of Spider Sense, and close-combat easily goes to Spider-Man. Batman is at the peak of human conditioning, Spider-Man is superhumanly strong, he knocked out a T-Rex with one punch. Batman has a lot of gadgets, but so do a lot of Spider-Man's enemies, like Goblin, which Spidey gets around just fine. It makes far more sense to Spider-Man to beat Batman. You can't say "Oh Batman randomly encountered Bane, so obviously he can handle Spider-man." Uhhh, did you forget what happened in that fight?

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This fight was also legit. Gaara tires out from using his abilities, Toph does not. There is no way of knowing what has greater control over the earthen materials, chi or chakra, so there is no way of knowing if "Toph can force control from Gaara" or "Gaara can force control from Toph" is true on either ends. Even though Gaara's attacks are of larger scale, Toph's control is just as good and she can control far more materials. Gaara was at a disadvantage because ninjutsu drains your stamina, bending doesn't. It just ended up getting to the point that Gaara ran out of chakra, so he couldn't control the sand enough to keep on fighting.

I didn't see the vid or don't remember the details, did they cover Toph not being able to see floating enemies? Couldn't Gaara just float and attack with shuriken?

 

[Punk Hazard]

I didn't see the vid or don't remember the details, did they cover Toph not being able to see floating enemies? Couldn't Gaara just float and attack with shuriken?

They covered the fact that Avatar Extras confirmed Toph can sense whatever she can bend even while it's detached from the ground. Meaning, Gaara floating on a sand cloud=she can detect it. Gaara throwing a kunai=she can detect it. Gaara's sand armor=she can detect it.

 

[chopstickchakra]

They covered the fact that Avatar Extras confirmed Toph can sense whatever she can bend even while it's detached from the ground. Meaning, Gaara floating on a sand cloud=she can detect it. Gaara throwing a kunai=she can detect it. Gaara's sand armor=she can detect it.

Oh ok, I hadn't read many of the comics that came out after Ozai's defeat(that is what you meant by extras correct?) Then yeah if she can detect that well she does win.