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You do realize Madara taught Obito the Six Paths Technique who taught Nagato and Madara already stated he can use all the abilities of the Rinnegan.

As for the topic like I said before Dimension hopping isn't something that's gonna be useful in a battle considering it's not like Kaguya where he can send everything in the surrounding area to other dimensions without touching them.
Still doesn't mean susanoo enhances all of ones jutsu and nagato has more experience.
Edit: Madara has knowledge on the six paths jutsu but he's never been shown to use asura path, animal path and human path in battle. Besides don't you debaters put actions over words?
 
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Still doesn't mean susanoo enhances all of ones jutsu and nagato has more experience.

Then how do u explain the drastic increase of the range of Sasuke's S/T jutsu or a chidori being able to compete against a tbb :|
 

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Then how do u explain the drastic increase of the range of Sasuke's S/T jutsu or a chidori being able to compete against a tbb :|
Sasuke somehow used the bijuu chakra in the susanoo to enhance his range and sasuke channeled more lightning into his susanoo arm cos you know PS hand is much bigger than a normal hand. :|
 

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Sasuke somehow used the bijuu chakra in the susanoo to enhance his range and sasuke channeled more lightning into his susanoo arm cos you know PS hand is much bigger than a normal hand. :|

The bijuu chakra was contained only within his susano'o. It didn't go through Sasuke himself so it wouldn't have increased his range. Also, Chou mini tbb>>>Chidori if u increase the scale nothing changes
 

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The bijuu chakra was contained only within his susano'o. It didn't go through Sasuke himself so it wouldn't have increased his range. Also, Chou mini tbb>>>Chidori if u increase the scale nothing changes
Then sasukes amenos range increased when he got used to the rinnegan. Susanoo doesn't increase his chakra and you've seen what a regular chidori did to the mountain sized meteor in the last. PS chidori is obviously stronger than that.
 

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Then sasukes amenos range increased when he got used to the rinnegan. Susanoo doesn't increase his chakra and you've seen what a regular chidori did to the mountain sized meteor in the last. PS chidori is obviously stronger than that.

VoTE 2 Sasuke wouldn't have been able to do that to that meteor. Susano'o simply works as an amplifier. Susano'o=the Sage's powerful chakra that was given to Indra. That chakra is of a stronger grade than ones Uchiha normally use
 

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VoTE 2 Sasuke wouldn't have been able to do that to that meteor. Susano'o simply works as an amplifier. Susano'o=the Sage's powerful chakra that was given to Indra. That chakra is of a stronger grade than ones Uchiha normally use
Hmm, I can agree that susanoo enhances certain jutsu. :p
 

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What can Dimension hopping do in a real battle besides retreat once you get your ass whooped?

Trap Naruto like Kaguya did Sasuke .. left for dead basically.

You really want to downgrade him and that so bad.. its not always about battle skill fool.
 

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Chidori was clearly enhanced by PS. All jutsu can be used on a much larger scale when PS is in use. Same applies to the Chidori Senbons he used which were casually popping TBB's whereas they could barely pierce 3 inches into trees before PS. After the last chapter, we now know PS can also enhance normal Rinnegan jutsu, as it has already done so via Bansho Tennin on the Meteors. At the end of the day, it means PS is a multiplier for Sasuke's abilities, meaning his current Chidori which can explode and vaporise much more than a meteor (in The Last) would be multiplied by the same amount his Chidori was powered-up from VOTE to the Last. The same multiplier would affect PS since PS is dependant on chakra potency, and then this enhanced PS would act as a multiplier for the already enhanced Chidori to create some massive level attack. So if anything, Sasuke is mad OP right now. Not to mention the Meteor vaporising Chidori occurred 10+ years ago, so his current one should be far stronger (and then those multipliers would have to be applied again).

- Because more chakra was poured into it. It simply became a larger sized technique with more chakra.

- Same for senbons.

- How can PS enhance a Rinnegan technique? That is a ninjutsu that is a physical manifestation of chakra and Rinnegan has its own paths and subsequent ninjutsus. How would, for example, Genjutsu be enhanced by PS or Amaterasu, unless it isn't wielded by Susano'o? Rinnegan and PS have no co-relation between one another. None at all. It simply means that Sasuke's technique improved. Nothing out of the world, as his Chakra Control rivals the sage.

- It can't be and it isn't. Like I said, unless the technique isn't wielded by PS, it isn't receiving the 'large chakra' treatment. PS is merely a large sized warrior, which means, more chakra for a technique. PS doesn't have any affect on Rinnegan. Why would it? How would, for example, Deva Path be enhanced by a Ninjutsu that has no link to Rinnegan? How can Genjutsu be enhanced by PS? How can teleportation be enhanced by PS, when it's directly linked to Sasuke's Rinnegan?

- The Last Chidori, you mean? I have only seen a clip. I don't consider the movie canon, to be honest.
 

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- Because more chakra was poured into it. It simply became a larger sized technique with more chakra.

- Same for senbons.

- How can PS enhance a Rinnegan technique? That is a ninjutsu that is a physical manifestation of chakra and Rinnegan has its own paths and subsequent ninjutsus. How would, for example, Genjutsu be enhanced by PS or Amaterasu, unless it isn't wielded by Susano'o? Rinnegan and PS have no co-relation between one another. None at all. It simply means that Sasuke's technique improved. Nothing out of the world, as his Chakra Control rivals the sage.

- It can't be and it isn't. Like I said, unless the technique isn't wielded by PS, it isn't receiving the 'large chakra' treatment. PS is merely a large sized warrior, which means, more chakra for a technique. PS doesn't have any affect on Rinnegan. Why would it? How would, for example, Deva Path be enhanced by a Ninjutsu that has no link to Rinnegan? How can Genjutsu be enhanced by PS? How can teleportation be enhanced by PS, when it's directly linked to Sasuke's Rinnegan?

- The Last Chidori, you mean? I have only seen a clip. I don't consider the movie canon, to be honest.

Yes, point is there's a limit to the amount of chakra you can mould at once. PS seems to remove that limit. Same applies with BM, Naruto could never generate Rasengans as large as he did next to Minato's avatar, his mini-TBB could never reach the size of a avatar TBB. The same is applied to all jutsus in PS.

-Genjutsu that is intended to work on a single person wouldn't have any change as the amount of genjutsu required won't change. Enton has already been created in large amounts forming massive Enton orbs that he'd never be capable of forming on his hand or close to it. Amateratsu? Well the ninjutsu would be released from his eyes, it hasn't been shown to have the ability to work through chakra linked with him as has the Rinnegan and Enton. Rinnegan has already been used in conjunction with PS when he was capable of using his PS as a medium for the outter path absorption of all the Bijuus. So one can insinuate it is in fact capable of using the other paths.

-And the Rinnegan does actually have an effect on the Perfect Susano [ ]. His Rinnegan was capable of blocking the light through his PS. I already gave you the example of outer path using PS as a medium for absorption. I see no reason as to why Deva Path cannot be used through his PS. And anyways, Deva path uses the perfect manipulation of all 5 chakra elements according to the databook. Furthermore, you can see here [ ] that Madara's Susano used hand seals to pull down the meteor from the sky. It clearly works with gravitation as there'd be no other way to bring down a meteor in the sky. Just goes to show the amplification of a Rinnegan jutsu even if it wasn't Tendo, as the Susano itself was making the hand seals. And Sasuke used a PS head before he was about to use his Dimensional teleportation, so it means he's enhancing his Rinnegan tech with Susano in order to take everyone with him.

-Fair enough.
 

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You do realize Madara taught Obito the Six Paths Technique who taught Nagato and Madara already stated he can use all the abilities of the Rinnegan.

As for the topic like I said before Dimension hopping isn't something that's gonna be useful in a battle considering it's not like Kaguya where he can send everything in the surrounding area to other dimensions without touching them.
we dont yet know the full mechanics of his jutsu so dont jump to conclusions
 

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Yes, point is there's a limit to the amount of chakra you can mould at once. PS seems to remove that limit. Same applies with BM, Naruto could never generate Rasengans as large as he did next to Minato's avatar, his mini-TBB could never reach the size of a avatar TBB. The same is applied to all jutsus in PS.

-Genjutsu that is intended to work on a single person wouldn't have any change as the amount of genjutsu required won't change. Enton has already been created in large amounts forming massive Enton orbs that he'd never be capable of forming on his hand or close to it. Amateratsu? Well the ninjutsu would be released from his eyes, it hasn't been shown to have the ability to work through chakra linked with him as has the Rinnegan and Enton. Rinnegan has already been used in conjunction with PS when he was capable of using his PS as a medium for the outter path absorption of all the Bijuus. So one can insinuate it is in fact capable of using the other paths.

-And the Rinnegan does actually have an effect on the Perfect Susano [ ]. His Rinnegan was capable of blocking the light through his PS. I already gave you the example of outer path using PS as a medium for absorption. I see no reason as to why Deva Path cannot be used through his PS. And anyways, Deva path uses the perfect manipulation of all 5 chakra elements according to the databook. Furthermore, you can see here [ ] that Madara's Susano used hand seals to pull down the meteor from the sky. It clearly works with gravitation as there'd be no other way to bring down a meteor in the sky. Just goes to show the amplification of a Rinnegan jutsu even if it wasn't Tendo, as the Susano itself was making the hand seals. And Sasuke used a PS head before he was about to use his Dimensional teleportation, so it means he's enhancing his Rinnegan tech with Susano in order to take everyone with him.

-Fair enough.

- He should have used the term power and volume. Enhancement means improving quality at its crux. What we saw with PS and BM avatar is simply more chakra volume.

- As I explained, because it was wielded by the Susano'o. That ninjutsu is directly connected to Susano'o and used. The same above logic implies. But it's still Sasuke pouring in the chakra. He can use that amount on his own as well without the use of Susano'o.

- The light blocking is a very slippery slope kinda argument. For one, Rinnegan and PS are two very different things - the manga has never made any co-relation between them and both of them (EMS and Rinnegan) are completely different things, despite stemming from the same base Doujutsu, Sharingan. Sasuke has being given immunity through this Rinnegan plus Sharingan combination, and more importantly, through Sage's chakra fueled abilities.

Secondly, it most probably has something to do with his one eye being neither Rinnegan nor Sharingan and carrying the Sage's chakra. That power of Genjutsu immunity extends to Susano'o as well, as Sasuke is using it. Remember, Sharingan AND Rinnegan are both immune to visual Genjutsu and his PS is running on Sage's chakra now. Otherwise, Susano'o, after it is locked, worked independently from the eyes. For example, had this been a sound genjutsu, then neither Sasuke nor PS would have been protected. It's Sasuke's immunity that is being extended to his PS as the jutsu is made from his body. Whatever immunity Sasuke will have in regards to these techs, his Susan'o will mimic it. That is what I have been able to grasp. I am going to wait for a full Databook IV statement though.

- You do realize that the Susano'o mimics the user's movements or his reactions, or in some cases both, right? How can Susano'o enhance a Rinnegan tech, when both of them have no co-relation between one another? One of them is directly linked to the eye (paths) and the other has no link to eye at all after it's formed? It's simply enhancement and stabilization of the chakra?
 
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