[Theory] Sasuke's upcoming powerup

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Great theory bro Already discussed everything. I agree with you

Thanks, man.

Something else worth discussing.

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In the compilation showing Kabuto's body modifications, one entrant is somewhat unexplained. Sasuke is included among them. He took Sasori's in order conceal his chakra like a puppet, Juugo's to utilize Sage Transformation, Kimamaro's for his Kekkei Genkai, the Sound 4 for their various abilities, Suigetsu and Karin for their Kekkei Genkai, as well as Orochimaru for the ability of the White Snake, Sasuke though? Never saw anything that connects him to Kabuto, unless, it was used for his ability to control Juugo's Sage Transformation.

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This as well as Orochimaru's excitement for Sasuke in fact growing after he, against his initial wishes, controlled the Cursed Seal and prevented it's transformation.

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Interestingly, chapter title "The Uchiha Blood". Kabuto perhaps used cells from Sasuke in order to gain stronger control over Juugo's ability, so, Sasuke himself would be half of the components to achieving DSM.

 

[Hebi Sasuke]

I don't think he used Sasuke's cells,I think it's just that he was thinking like Orochimaru or rather he wanted to finish what Orochimaru started. I guess they had the same goal,Sharingan and all his secrets.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

I don't think he used Sasuke's cells,I think it's just that he was thinking like Orochimaru or rather he wanted to finish what Orochimaru started. I guess they had the same goal,Sharingan and all his secrets.

But Orochimaru didn't just want him for his eyes, his body was priority one. Kabuto only seemed interested in the Sharingan, perhaps since he had already taken what he'd needed from his body? He didn't have any training with the Cursed Seal, his ability to use and control Juugo's Transformation to such a high degree without any supplement would be pretty remarkable. Sasuke's is the only inclusion that Kabuto wouldn't have taken abilities from, so I think that's what the compilation is for, rather than his and Orochimaru's ideals.

 

[Hebi Sasuke]

But Orochimaru didn't just want him for his eyes, his body was priority one. Kabuto only seemed interested in the Sharingan, perhaps since he had already taken what he'd needed from his body? He didn't have any training with the Cursed Seal, his ability to use and control Juugo's Transformation to such a high degree without any supplement would be pretty remarkable. Sasuke's is the only inclusion that Kabuto wouldn't have taken abilities from, so I think that's what the compilation is for, rather than his and Orochimaru's ideals.

Well yeah,I guess Orochimaru's obsession with Sasuke transferred to Kabuto . I think Kabuto of course not comparable to Sasuke ,did have a strong body and was a medical ninja so I think he just wanted the eyes. But who knows...I think Kishimoto would highlighted that part if it happened. Or maybe he will in the next chapter

 

[ANiMUS]

But Orochimaru didn't just want him for his eyes, his body was priority one. Kabuto only seemed interested in the Sharingan, perhaps since he had already taken what he'd needed from his body? He didn't have any training with the Cursed Seal, his ability to use and control Juugo's Transformation to such a high degree without any supplement would be pretty remarkable. Sasuke's is the only inclusion that Kabuto wouldn't have taken abilities from, so I think that's what the compilation is for, rather than his and Orochimaru's ideals.

Actually, as far as Kabuto's abilities my sig thread talks about that, its long though

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Actually, as far as Kabuto's abilities my sig thread talks about that, its long though

I'll give it a good read later, but skimming, I agree with the gist of it.

Well yeah,I guess Orochimaru's obsession with Sasuke transferred to Kabuto . I think Kabuto of course not comparable to Sasuke ,did have a strong body and was a medical ninja so I think he just wanted the eyes. But who knows...I think Kishimoto would highlighted that part if it happened. Or maybe he will in the next chapter

He already did though in including Sasuke in the compilation of those Kabuto took abilities from. Sasuke's body was considered special by Orochimaru, and his ability to control the Cursed Seal was especially highlighted, Kabuto just out of the blue having that ability would be kinda hooey.

 

[adeshina365]

@The Robot With Human Hair

You can't forget that Kimimaro was also able to control Juugo's power. It could simply have been his DNA that allowed Kabuto to control Juugo's power.

I don't even think Sasuke was the type to allow himself to be experimented on.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

@The Robot With Human Hair

You can't forget that Kimimaro was also able to control Juugo's power. It could simply have been his DNA that allowed Kabuto to control Juugo's power.

I don't even think Sasuke was the type to allow himself to be experimented on.

But he surpassed Kimimaro, at least from Orochimaru's perspective. And his inclusion there doesn't really make any sense aside from that purpose.

I agree, doesn't mean he was against giving blood, if pressed, though. That would suffice.

 

[adeshina365]

But he surpassed Kimimaro, at least from Orochimaru's perspective. And his inclusion there doesn't really make any sense aside from that purpose.

I agree, doesn't mean he was against giving blood, if pressed, though. That would suffice.

You have a point. In which scan does Orochimaru say that?

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

You have a point. In which scan does Orochimaru say that?

Having trouble finding the scan, but he mentions it to Kabuto during part one, I think. Most he had at that point was his ability to control the mark, demonstrated in front of Orochimaru, and an incomplete Sharingan.

EDIT: I think I found it.

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Yeah, different from what I was thinking. It can be indicative of casting out Kimimaro in favor of Sasuke, but it's almost definitely to do with his illness. It's still possible that Sasuke has greater control over the Cursed Seal, but it's not stated, at least to my knowledge. Either way, Sasuke's inclusion in Kabuto's flashback is puzzling. At the very least, Sasuke's blood is associated with his control over it.

 

[OG9TAILS]

If it is a truly reformed Kabuto it's a good thing he's a medical ninja. Should help since he knows how to work with Hashi chakra and Juugo flesh.

 

[Hebi Sasuke]

It would be interesting too see Orochimaru's reaction and will he try to steal Sasuke's body

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

It would be interesting too see Orochimaru's reaction and will he try to steal Sasuke's body

I don't think that he will. I think he'd rather see Sasuke shape his own path, at this time.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Nice tgread

 

[Hebi Sasuke]

I don't think that he will. I think he'd rather see Sasuke shape his own path, at this time.

You never know with that hebi,but I think so too. I like Orochimaru this way.

 

[NaruSasuRival]

The OP is great, and I especially like the documentation here. It is the kind of post I like because it contains much logic, making the human brain dive into it easily. Kudos for making a difference in this era of asspullistic threads.

Now, I would like to note a couple of things:

1. Chapter 664 shows that actually Orochimaru has not changed his mind about the Sasuke body take-over. Juugo noted that, and Oro himself said it as well. We will certainly know the outcome of Juugo's thoughts.

2. Juugo's cell do not regenerate anyone. Apart from fitting in a wound so far, they have the poperty of drawing natural energy. Here again, we don't know if spare or localized cell can do the job. In addition, it is proven that Juugo's body is actually not a good vessel for natural energy because it transforms into a beast-like appearance. Even using Karin DNA, Kabuto was still an imperfect sage. I could even say that we should find another name for that sage mode as the human has to transform into snakes or dragon or bird. As far as I am concerned, it is a malevolent power.

3. For my personal enjoyment, I am more inclined to believe that Kabuto will not give free juice to Sasuke. In fact, I think the Uchiha fanservice is over, and Sasuke's fanboys will cry and complain for a while because Kabuto did not free himself from Izanagi by changing his way. The reason is that Itachi's statement about accepting one self was BS. Kabuto's self as a ninja is a scientist who study and emulate power. That science will prevail against some BS Uchiha asspul.

(4) Moreover, there are hint recently: (1) Susanoo without Sharingan, (2) cancelling of Amaterasu by absorbing it, (3) Freaky Rinngan-like Jutsus while madara is blind. All these tend to confirm what Kabuto said - that is he was the most closest to Rikudo - which Suggested that even without eyes, you can attain some level of Rikudo's power.

(5) Finally, think about it. Now is the right time for an honorable take-over of Sasuke's body. His fanboys can blame on the fact that he is dying and cannot fight back. Later, Kishi will start a new crazy arc where naruto fight corrupt Sasuke (by Oro or Kabuto) and free him after a deadly battle. This will be the best ending and will make Naruto's promises to Itachi count.

 

[adeshina365]

1. Chapter 664 shows that actually Orochimaru has not changed his mind about the Sasuke body take-over. Juugo noted that, and Oro himself said it as well. We will certainly know the outcome of Juugo's thoughts.

That's what Jugo assumed; Orochimaru's thoughts imply otherwise.

2. Juugo's cell do not regenerate anyone. Apart from fitting in a wound so far, they have the poperty of drawing natural energy. Here again, we don't know if spare or localized cell can do the job. In addition, it is proven that Juugo's body is actually not a good vessel for natural energy because it transforms into a beast-like appearance. Even using Karin DNA, Kabuto was still an imperfect sage. I could even say that we should find another name for that sage mode as the human has to transform into snakes or dragon or bird. As far as I am concerned, it is a malevolent power.

- Kabuto was a perfect Sage
- Jugo loses control because of a lack of balance. It has nothing to do with his inherent ability of gathering natural energy.

For my personal enjoyment, I am more inclined to believe that Kabuto will not give free juice to Sasuke. In fact, I think the Uchiha fanservice is over, and Sasuke's fanboys will cry and complain for a while because Kabuto did not free himself from Izanagi by changing his way. The reason is that Itachi's statement about accepting one self was BS. Kabuto's self as a ninja is a scientist who study and emulate power. That science will prevail against some BS Uchiha asspul.

Boy are you in for a world of disappointment.

(5) Finally, think about it. Now is the right time for an honorable take-over of Sasuke's body. His fanboys can blame on the fact that he is dying and cannot fight back. Later, Kishi will start a new crazy arc where naruto fight corrupt Sasuke (by Oro or Kabuto) and free him after a deadly battle. This will be the best ending and will make Naruto's promises to Itachi count.

Keep on fighting the good fight.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

1. Chapter 664 shows that actually Orochimaru has not changed his mind about the Sasuke body take-over. Juugo noted that, and Oro himself said it as well. We will certainly know the outcome of Juugo's thoughts.

On the next page, Orochimaru highlights his will to see Sasuke's path.

2. Juugo's cell do not regenerate anyone. Apart from fitting in a wound so far, they have the poperty of drawing natural energy. Here again, we don't know if spare or localized cell can do the job. In addition, it is proven that Juugo's body is actually not a good vessel for natural energy because it transforms into a beast-like appearance. Even using Karin DNA, Kabuto was still an imperfect sage. I could even say that we should find another name for that sage mode as the human has to transform into snakes or dragon or bird. As far as I am concerned, it is a malevolent power.

Yet they rebuilt vital organs that were completely blasted out from Sasuke's chest. Rest is unfounded.

3. For my personal enjoyment, I am more inclined to believe that Kabuto will not give free juice to Sasuke. In fact, I think the Uchiha fanservice is over, and Sasuke's fanboys will cry and complain for a while because Kabuto did not free himself from Izanagi by changing his way. The reason is that Itachi's statement about accepting one self was BS. Kabuto's self as a ninja is a scientist who study and emulate power. That science will prevail against some BS Uchiha asspul.

Scientists emulate power? Where did you get that idea? They study and analyse what exists.

(4) Moreover, there are hint recently: (1) Susanoo without Sharingan, (2) cancelling of Amaterasu by absorbing it, (3) Freaky Rinngan-like Jutsus while madara is blind. All these tend to confirm what Kabuto said - that is he was the most closest to Rikudo - which Suggested that even without eyes, you can attain some level of Rikudo's power.

Kabuto needed Sasuke's eyes. And you made quite a leap, here.

(5) Finally, think about it. Now is the right time for an honorable take-over of Sasuke's body. His fanboys can blame on the fact that he is dying and cannot fight back. Later, Kishi will start a new crazy arc where naruto fight corrupt Sasuke (by Oro or Kabuto) and free him after a deadly battle. This will be the best ending and will make Naruto's promises to Itachi count.

Highly unlikely.

 

[Vicen]

Having trouble finding the scan, but he mentions it to Kabuto during part one, I think. Most he had at that point was his ability to control the mark, demonstrated in front of Orochimaru, and an incomplete Sharingan.

EDIT: I think I found it.

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Yeah, different from what I was thinking. It can be indicative of casting out Kimimaro in favor of Sasuke, but it's almost definitely to do with his illness. It's still possible that Sasuke has greater control over the Cursed Seal, but it's not stated, at least to my knowledge. Either way, Sasuke's inclusion in Kabuto's flashback is puzzling. At the very least, Sasuke's blood is associated with his control over it.

That panel was merely illustrating Sasuke defeating Orochimaru. Hence why we see Oro's body in the grinder on the next panel.

 

[ANiMUS]

That panel was merely illustrating Sasuke defeating Orochimaru. Hence why we see Oro's body in the grinder on the next panel.

That could be part of it, but you have to think, Orochimaru turned himself into a snake and though his host bodies haven't been able to withstand SM Oro can still use it himself. (Example:CM=Senjutsu chakra) Orochimaru turned himself into a snake most likely because animals have the benefit of being one with nature. Orochimaru's ability to create an entire dimension inside himself is most likely senjutsu (toad stomach could be also). This would mean that Sasuke's chakra when working for Orochimaru was stronger than Orochimaru's senjutsu chakra (already stated by Karin)
Kabuto probably wanted to own and study the power that allowed a child like Sasuke to overpower Orochimaru (Kabuto's ideal)