Sasuke's suasnoo is NOT, in anyway equal madara's.

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I don't know where all these sasuke fan boys are getting this bs from but sasuke is not that strong. Sasuke hasn't gotten anymore charity since kabuto was kicking his ass and itachi was saving him. There's reasons why sasuke's suasnoo isn't as strong, 1 cause madara is a certified REAL *****, 2 because his chakra is no where near as strong as madara's, NO WHERE NEAR. If sasuke at this point made a suasnoo that big his water would probably break and he'd die given birth. Sasuke's chakra is not formidable, he's chakra is not super strong, he's slightly above average. 3 he doesn't have rinnegan so he can't stabilize the chakra of his suasnoo, he doesn't have the skill to yet. So until his suasnoo has actually shown some true power that's even half madara's please STOP. I actually like sasuke but you guys are ruining him I swear.

And plleeeasd stop saying he can beat nagato, amaterasu can't save him in this fight, Nagato can sense it and can counter it in a instant with almighty push or devs paths shield like he used against 6 rails naruto and his suasnoo ain't shit to someone who controls gravity and will just yank him right out of it. I swear this will be the last time I say anything to anyone about them fight, stop ruining sasuke with lies.
 

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Orochimaru said the sauce has the potential to pass Maddy and fans took it and ran wild with it saying a slash of his sword can do as much damage as Maddy's, I've even heard of ppl claiming his cross bow basically shoots out TBB sized blast, but I agree, anyone who brings up Sasuke's PS in a debate needs to be slapped, we know nothing about it or it's capabilities.
 

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Orochimaru said the sauce has the potential to pass Maddy and fans took it and ran wild with it saying a slash of his sword can do as much damage as Maddy's, I've even heard of ppl claiming his cross bow basically shoots out TBB sized blast, but I agree, anyone who brings up Sasuke's PS in a debate needs to be slapped, we know nothing about it or it's capabilities.

Thank you. Besides oro said that before he even saw madara in action, the flip does that weirdo know lol
 

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Lol

You're as biased as always.​
 

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No, it's better.
 

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I don't know where all these sasuke fan boys are getting this bs from but sasuke is not that strong. Sasuke hasn't gotten anymore charity since kabuto was kicking his ass and itachi was saving him. There's reasons why sasuke's suasnoo isn't as strong, 1 cause madara is a certified REAL *****, 2 because his chakra is no where near as strong as madara's, NO WHERE NEAR. If sasuke at this point made a suasnoo that big his water would probably break and he'd die given birth. Sasuke's chakra is not formidable, he's chakra is not super strong, he's slightly above average. 3 he doesn't have rinnegan so he can't stabilize the chakra of his suasnoo, he doesn't have the skill to yet. So until his suasnoo has actually shown some true power that's even half madara's please STOP. I actually like sasuke but you guys are ruining him I swear.

And plleeeasd stop saying he can beat nagato, amaterasu can't save him in this fight, Nagato can sense it and can counter it in a instant with almighty push or devs paths shield like he used against 6 rails naruto and his suasnoo ain't shit to someone who controls gravity and will just yank him right out of it. I swear this will be the last time I say anything to anyone about them fight, stop ruining sasuke with lies.

technically the kyuubi did say sasuke's chakra was as strong as madara's when sasuke just had 3 tomoe, and sasuke did kind of get to madara's ems level quite fast, and he's just 16 or 17...

no sasuke cant beat nagato

u dnt need rinnegan to stabilize the chakra of the final susano to get perfect susano, its simply stabilizing the chakra, which is another way of saying your susano chakra is under control

and sasuke's chakra is more than above average, i understand these dickriders piss u off because they get to me sometimes too but lets be real sasuke is top 10
 

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Thank you. Besides oro said that before he even saw madara in action, the flip does that weirdo know lol

he seems to knw a lot since everyone comes to him for answers
 

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Of course not most people who say that are fanboys and girls
 

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Lol

You're as biased as always.​

Besides the fact that most of what he said doesn't even apply.

1. Kurama compared early part 1 sasuke to Madara in terms of sinister, powerful chakra which has canonically improved vastly since then.
2. Orochimau stated he would surpass Madara
3. Sasuke has PS
4. Levels of susano'o have a base power, as far as we've seen susano'o does not improve in strength from user to user. Ribcage is just as strong with Sasuke as it is with Itachi and Madara until proven otherwise.
 

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technically the kyuubi did say sasuke's chakra was as strong as madara's when sasuke just had 3 tomoe, and sasuke did kind of get to madara's ems level quite fast, and he's just 16 or 17...

no sasuke cant beat nagato

u dnt need rinnegan to stabilize the chakra of the final susano to get perfect susano, its simply stabilizing the chakra, which is another way of saying your susano chakra is under control

and sasuke's chakra is more than above average, i understand these dickriders piss u off because they get to me sometimes too but lets be real sasuke is top 10

If your talking about the manga panel that the guy above you posted he said there eyes are the same, and its not difficult for the sharingan to control the 9 rails so of course its powerful to him
 

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Besides the fact that most of what he said doesn't even apply.

1. Kurama compared early part 1 sasuke to Madara in terms of sinister, powerful chakra which has canonically improved vastly since then.
2. Orochimau stated he would surpass Madara
3. Sasuke has PS
4. Levels of susano'o have a base power, as far as we've seen susano'o does not improve in strength from user to user. Ribcage is just as strong with Sasuke as it is with Itachi and Madara until proven otherwise.

Sasuke's power is not on madara's level and it will remain so until proven that it is. And what does oro saying that have to do with anything, why do yall take everything these characters say so religiously? You ever think that what kishi makes the characters say is just him making the characters say them? Like when madara said hashirama is the only one who can beat him couldn't that just as easily be kishi showing a bit about madara's personality? Like yall hang on words instead of actual facts. If sasuke's suasnoo was even half as strong as madara's why hasn't he used it like that? Cause he's been out match just like everyone else out there
 

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technically the kyuubi did say sasuke's chakra was as strong as madara's when sasuke just had 3 tomoe, and sasuke did kind of get to madara's ems level quite fast, and he's just 16 or 17...

no sasuke cant beat nagato

u dnt need rinnegan to stabilize the chakra of the final susano to get perfect susano, its simply stabilizing the chakra, which is another way of saying your susano chakra is under control

and sasuke's chakra is more than above average, i understand these dickriders piss u off because they get to me sometimes too but lets be real sasuke is top 10

But I thought the stabilizing was what made the suasnoo perfect. You said that that means his chakra's under control but it being under control completely would mean he can better focus power where its necessary wouldn't it?
 

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Sasuke's power is not on madara's level and it will remain so until proven that it is. And what does oro saying that have to do with anything, why do yall take everything these characters say so religiously? You ever think that what kishi makes the characters say is just him making the characters say them? Like when madara said hashirama is the only one who can beat him couldn't that just as easily be kishi showing a bit about madara's personality? Like yall hang on words instead of actual facts. If sasuke's suasnoo was even half as strong as madara's why hasn't he used it like that? Cause he's been out match just like everyone else out there

Because Orochimaru knows the second most in the manga behind Madara and Black Zetsu. His word holds great weight. He even states that Sasuke has been holding his power back during these war fights which Sasuke consistently backs up.
 

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Sasuke's chakra has been getting stronger since the time it was compared to madara
 

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Because Orochimaru knows the second most in the manga behind Madara and Black Zetsu. His word holds great weight. He even states that Sasuke has been holding his power back during these war fights which Sasuke consistently backs up.

Oro didn't know as much about madara as kabuto. Kabuto actually got his body and was able to examine it, and even he was surprised at madaras power. So how can oro accuratly speak on power that he hasn't seen? And when did he say sasukes been holding back?
 

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It looks exactly the same as Madara's VOTE Susanoo, So id say it equals that.
 

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Sasuke's chakra has been getting stronger since the time it was compared to madara

Like I said, when his powers shown to be half of madara's then ok until then, your just a blindly following a comparison. Sasuke has no reason to hold back power against the last 2 people he's faced. He's not holding back he's just not that strong.
 

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It looks exactly the same as Madara's VOTE Susanoo, So id say it equals that.

Sasukes suasnoo isn't as big and he can't stablize it. Him being able to wrap suasnoo over 9 tails was impressive, but does make him as strong as madara or even close.
 

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Like I said, when his powers shown to be half of madara's then ok until then, your just a blindly following a comparison. Sasuke has no reason to hold back power against the last 2 people he's faced. He's not holding back he's just not that strong.
Foreshadowing is for a reason in this manga. You cannot expect sasuke to go through same trials as madara went just to be sure its the same susanoo. Kishi clearly wont be wasting panels on that just for haters like you.

All rasengans of same size are of same power no matter the user, susanoo is ninjutsu like it or not and it shares similar capabilities among all users.
Manga suggests thats sasuke has stronger chakra logically his susanoo can be stronger.
 
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