[Discussion] Sasuke's Speed

Shinato

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 27, 2013
Messages
2,810
Reaction score
514
You must be registered for see images

The newest chapter gave us a glimpse into Sasuke's new powers, and naturally this sparked a rising count in fanboy and haters threads/posts among the fanbase. That is why I am making this thread, its not a theory its a discussion and view of how I see Sasuke's new found speed in combat. You are free to not agree with me and you are free to agree with me if you wish, this is just my views and analysis of the current manga chapters. So lets get this discussion/thread started!





1. Who's fastest?
The main thing about what we got to see in this chapter raised the question if Sasuke is now the newest person to hold the title of "Fastest Shinobi" in the Narutoverse or if the old holders still are faster. From my point of view, our two main stars are somewhat equal in speed, though Minato has fallen below both of them. When you judge someone's speed you cannot simply look on how quickly they move around the battlefield, well you can but you will still need to look how they move. There are several types of "speed" that you will need to look at, the ones you will need to look at are: Overall speed, foot-speed and reaction time. How quickly the shinobi can move overall using any means, how quickly they can get around using their bodies and how quickly they can react to other's attacks and actions. This forms the complete overall speed of a shinobi.

Now, why do I say that Minato has fallen below both Sasuke and Naruto? Well its simple, lets first analyze Minato, shall we? His main movement choice is using the Flying Thunder God Jutsu to move around quickly, however this jutsu has a single drawback. That is that the user can only teleport to seals that are already been placed around, Minato ignored most of this drawback by making Kunai's with the seal but it still remains there. The fastest shinobi that Minato fought was Ay, the current Raikage. During their fight, we could see that Ay tried to guess where Minato would teleport to based on where his Kunai's were. If you can analyze that correctly, then you can beat Minato's teleportation fairly easily. Also note that his teleportation is instant, meaning that you cannot really be faster than it. Now, we still have two other things to analyze.

The next being Minato's movement speed on foot, he has shown to be able to close the gap between himself and his opponent in almost an instant. Though we don't have a lot of information on this. However, we've seen Minato as a Genin using his pure speed and him now as an Edo. Minato is no doubt fast, but one thing remain. He resorted to using the FTG against Ay because he wasn't able to dodge him without it. That means that Ay's footspeed is faster than Minato's but Minato can still move around quicker thanks to his FTG. Now we only have one more thing to analyze and that is his reaction speed. Minato has shown to have somewhat of a bad reaction speed compared to his overall speed with the FTG. When Obito snuck up behind him, he reacted fairly slow and was almost caught by Obito. Later we see that he wasn't quick enough to react to Obito's Bijuu Dama attack after he became the Juubi's Jin. We also saw that he wasn't able to to react to Madara's counterattack when Minato attacked him.

Minato is still remarkably quick in reaction time, but its probably where he is the slowest of them all. Now I have covered all the points for Minato, now I will use this information to analyze Sasuke and Naruto as one. I pointed out 3 enemies that Minato have fought, all of these are enemies that Naruto and Sasuke has also fought in the past and current. These three are Ay, Obito and Madara. So I will start with Sasuke, and Ay. During their fight, we saw that Sasuke was able to react to Ay's movements thanks to his Sharingan and he even was able to counterattack Ay a few times. However, Sasuke wasn't able to keep up with Ay's speed in footspeed. This means that Sasuke is about the same footspeed as Minato, however he has better reaction speed thanks to his Sharingan. His reaction speed was further shown when he blocked and defended against Obito's Bijuu balls and when he countered Madara in the newest chapter.

That are a total of 3 places where Sasuke's reaction speed beats Minato's reaction speed. So that leaves us only with Sasuke's overall speed in battle. Which from the latest chapter it seems like he is teleporting or switching places with objects in the same manner as FTG. However, Sasuke doesn't have the drawback that Minato has and seems to be able to switch places with whatever he wishes. Meaning that there is no knowing where he will teleport to. Combine that with the fact that he doesn't need to throw a Kunai and wait for it to reach its destination makes Sasuke quicker with the teleportation than Minato, however only slightly.

2. Minato & Sasuke
Overall Speed = Sasuke is faster
Foot Speed = They are about equal
Reaction Speed = Sasuke is faster

3. Who's faster? Part II
Now lets get to Naruto and his speed. As we know, Naruto cannot and isn't teleporting around. His overall speed is his foot speed, meaning that his overall speed is automatically slower than both Sasuke and Minato. However, Naruto has shown a speed to foot that is equal or surpasses Ay, the Raikage. If you remember, then Ay is quicker than both Minato and Sasuke on foot. That means that Naruto is also faster than Minato and Sasuke on foot. However, his reaction time still remains. During Naruto's stand off with Ay, he was able to react and dodge Ay's attack in the same manner as Sasuke did. He did this thanks to his chakra cloak gained from Kurama's chakra. Later he was able to dodge Juubito and he has been able to keep up with Madara's reaction speed after returning to the battlefield. This means that his reaction speed is somewhere equal to Sasuke's reaction speed.

4. Minato & Naruto
Overall Speed = Minato is faster
Foot Speed = Naruto is faster
Reaction Speed = Naruto is faster

5. Naruto & Sasuke
Overall Speed = Sasuke is faster
Foot Speed = Naruto is faster
Reaction Speed = They are about equal

6. In the end, who's faster?
In the end, none of them are really faster. Sasuke cannot keep up with Naruto's footspeed and Naruto cannot keep up with Sasuke's overall speed in combat. This means that they are equally matched in the form of speed during combat, however as I stated. Sasuke has faster overall speed, while Naruto has faster foot speed in general. This also fits their character as Naruto is the body while Sasuke is the mind. The body moves with the feet, the mind moves with the eyes/mind. ( Teleportation )
 

Dantee

Member
Joined
Jan 29, 2012
Messages
45,244
Reaction score
3,260
I disagree with what you concluded. I think at the very least Sasukes and Narutos foot speed is equal. Sasuke caught up to Jubidara who is the fastest character in an instant and blitzed him with foot speed. I think that's enough to put him and Naruto on par. Naruto has never blitzed a God head on.


Other than that good thread and analysis on Ftg and Sasukes new tech.
 

Shinato

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 27, 2013
Messages
2,810
Reaction score
514
I disagree with what you concluded. I think at the very least Sasukes and Narutos foot speed is equal. Sasuke caught up to Jubidara who is the fastest character in an instant and blitzed him with foot speed. I think that's enough to put him and Naruto on par. Naruto has never blitzed a God head on.


Other than that good thread and analysis on Ftg and Sasukes new tech.

Though we didn't see Sasuke moving against Madara, so he may have teleported to him and not run after him. We also know that Sasuke has a limit to his new power, which may explain why he didn't catch up with Madara right away. He had to teleport small distances each time against Madara. Also, Naruto attacked Madara head on after "saving" Gai.
 

Royal Uchiha

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Mar 29, 2014
Messages
675
Reaction score
68
Thank God someone can use his mind, hope this will stop the fapboys.
 

Shinato

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 27, 2013
Messages
2,810
Reaction score
514
Thank God someone can use his mind, hope this will stop the fapboys.

Oh it never will, trust me. If anything, then the Naruto series managed to one thing very good. It managed to create a real Circle of Hatred that are among the fanboys/girls. ( I also find it funny how your name is "Royal Uchiha" but your profile is themed around Minato.. Nice choice! )
 

damon hunt

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
May 29, 2013
Messages
1,093
Reaction score
78
lol i agree with what you concluded good job fella but the foot speed naruto thingy we still don't know because we don't know if sasuke used foot speed to catch up to madara or not so we will see
 

PakTigers

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
604
Reaction score
50
Minato is still the fastest, Because of his special style of entering!! =D
 

Shinato

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 27, 2013
Messages
2,810
Reaction score
514
lol i agree with what you concluded good job fella but the foot speed naruto thingy we still don't know because we don't know if sasuke used foot speed to catch up to madara or not so we will see

That is the only thing that we're lacking. But I am taking the wild guess by saying that he teleported over smaller distances to catch up with Madara in time.
 

xxxLegacy

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 27, 2014
Messages
3,632
Reaction score
210
*Cough* Sasuke entered the battlefield in the EXACT same way.

hahahaha good one :leaf: but NO. I do not agree to all at this thread.
I am sure that Sasuke speed will have a TIME LIMIT or something like that , cuz you fans think madara can not keep up with sasuke in speed :rolleyes: Than Kishi will downgrade his speed uuuuuuh
 

Shinato

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 27, 2013
Messages
2,810
Reaction score
514
hahahaha good one :leaf: but NO. I do not agree to all at this thread.
I am sure that Sasuke speed will have a TIME LIMIT or something like that , cuz you fans think madara can not keep up with sasuke in speed :rolleyes: Than Kishi will downgrade his speed uuuuuuh

There are no fans that "thinks" that Madara cannot keep up with Sasuke, we know it from the manga. Madara was surprised more than several times by Sasuke's speed and was hit several times because he couldn't keep up fully. Also, Minato and Sasuke entered the battlefield in the exact same way. They both came jumping down from above and landed infront of Naruto in the same motion.
 
Top