Sasuke's Senjutsu Susanoo

[Ootoriyu Jin]

Yes, pretty much.



Yeah, we all know that.



Exactly. That's why Sasuke did not have any Juubi related powers like TBBs etc. The only thing it was related to was the Juubi's chakra, not the Juubi itself.



Of course it does. Juubi's chakra is formed by the aggregation of all the 9 bijuus' chakra. How can you say something so ignorant as that?



Yes, it does. But not necessarily. The chakra does not particularly have to come after Juubi is created.

First, you say that bijuus chakra was individual so it could not produce Juubi's chakra just by being together. But then, when I gave proof of chakra being merged, so now you're resorting to this non-supported biased argument without any solid logic or evidence, just because you don't want to accept the truth.



Juubi is formed when 9 bijuus fuse together. Juubi's chakra is formed when 9 bijuus' chakra is combined together. It's so damn simple...



There is no point of "magic" here. And yes, it does. The Juubi's chakra is the aggregation of the tailed beasts chakra. And Juubi itself is the aggregate of the tailed beasts.

First, you say that



They don't need to kneed senjutsu. Plus, they can't do that anyway. They aren't even existent, so how can they possibly "do" something like kneeding senjutsu? Or are you saying tailed beasts chakra can kneed senjutsu on their own?



It's not a theory. It's a factual conclusion. And a very non-confusing and inarguable one. But you Naruto fans always have something to counter no matter how false or illogical it is.



Because Outer Path is not required to create it. The Outer Path only deals with merging the bijuus' chakra and integrating it with Susanoo. If Sasuke creates that using his own Six Paths chakra, then Outer Path has no business there.



Your response is about as delusional and illogical as Nips's response, so please read my response to that. But I'll address a few things separately.

Firstly, if Kurama particularly COMPARED Sasuke's merger of bijuus' chakra to Hagomoro's separation, then they ARE linked processes. In this case, they're inverse processes of each other (Juubi to Bijuus and Bijuus to Juubi, we're talking about chakra of course, Hagomoro has the added benefit of creating forms). There is absolutely no point about "magic" in all of this. It's a natural and logical phenomenon.

Secondly, we know the fact that Sasuke merged the chakra through Kurama's dialogue. So according to you, what is created by MERGING/FUSING all 9 bijuus' chakra? It obviously has to be the Juubi's chakra. If your answer is different, then state it and explain it.

And your point about "Juubi's chakra coming from Juubi itself" is lame. We know that. But there is more to it. If Juubi is the aggregate of all 9 bijuus, then obviously Juubi's chakra is created by the aggregation of the 9 bijuus chakra, because that's what creates the Juubi.



Sasuke got the Six Paths Yin chakra which is senjutsu chakra by default. The rest is irrelevant. Explaining things to YOU is my biggest challenge and the most difficult task I've to face on NB, but I'll try to make my point clear anyway.

Sasuke didn't get Sage's chakra that created the Rinnegan, neither did Naruto get Sage's chakra that upped his Senjutsu. Sasuke got Six Paths chakra (source of power) AND Rinnegan (power). And Naruto got Six Paths chakra (source of power) and Six Paths Senjutsu (power). They did come as a package, but they weren't "created" by each other.

Sasuke's Six Paths chakra is senjutsu chakra itself. It's NOT Senjutsu itself, only the Senjutsu chakra. And it's NOT Six Paths Senjutsu chakra, only Senjutsu chakra.



You are actually making yourself look pretty bad by not understanding anything.

Sasuke does not have Senjutsu, so naturally that removes any question about Six Paths Senjutsu. He has Senjutsu chakra ONLY, and that also not Six Paths Senjutsu chakra, but just Senjutsu chakra. The reason for that is Sage's chakra is Senjutsu chakra by default.

Senjutsu is Naruto's power. And Sasuke does not have Senjutsu (he only has senjutsu chakra). So don't feel insecure about Sasuke getting Naruto's powers. And yeah, your counterclaim of "Naruto's Rinnegan" is moot now, because Sasuke doesn't have Naruto's powers, so Naruto should also not have Sasuke's powers.



Exactly! Both Naruto and Sasuke started out with fresh and COMPLETELY replenished chakra reserves after meeting the Sage. All they lost prior to that is irrelevant. And even though Sasuke doesn't have Kurama's massive surplus supplies, he still managed to last almost as long as Naruto.

Sasuke is like iPhone 6S and Naruto is like a Galaxy S6. Sasuke (iPhone 6S) has Six Paths Yin chakra reserves (DUAL CORE A9 processor) whereas Naruto (Galaxy S6) has Six Paths Yang chakra reserves + Kurama's chakra reserves (OCTA CORE processor), yet Sasuke's (iPhone 6S's) chakra w.r.t. power and consumption (performance/benchmark scores) is on par with Naruto (Galaxy S6) due to high quality chakra (better CPU architecture/better software optimization) which gives same power with less quantity of chakra (same performance with less CPU cores).

Show me some scans then I might reconsider, untill then it's just a theory.

 

[DHOH]

I don't really see the point of this thread.

It needs Bijuu Chakra to fuel, right? No one should be capable of producing that without Bijuu Chakra, no matter what it forms into it. Heck by that logic Sasuke uses Six Path Senjutsu by using Kurama in the Boruto Movie but he doesn't. He just uses Bijuu Chakra :lol

Though outside of the understanding of what Sasuke uses to create this Susano'o ... we all understand he uses Outer Path right?

I thought you had a little more common sense than most of the Naruto fans around but in the end you all are the same lol..

I'll say this one last time and leave demon hawk to school the rest because my patience is running thin..

Bijuu chakra?? Not one and I mean not one did Sasuke EVER USE Bijuu chakra to make Senjutsu Susanoo..

Combining all 9 bijuu chakra is no longer Bijuu chakra it's now the jyuubi's chakra.
Jyuubi's chakra = Senjutsu chakra
Hagorom's chakra = Senjutsu chakra
Sasuke's chakra =1/3 Hagorom's chakra = having 1/3 Senjutsu chakra

Sasuke didn't absorb any of Kurama's chakra(while performing SS) in the boruto movie.. Meaning his chakra didn't influence Sasuke's Susanoo in any way shape or form.. Good day.

 

[DHOH]

Show me some scans then I might reconsider, untill then it's just a theory.

Scans of what?!?!?

 

[lndra]

I thought you had a little more common sense than most of the Naruto fans around but in the end you all are the same lol..

I'll say this one last time and leave demon hawk to school the rest because my patience is running thin..

Bijuu chakra?? Not one and I mean not one did Sasuke EVER USE Bijuu chakra to make Senjutsu Susanoo..

Combining all 9 bijuu chakra is no longer Bijuu chakra it's now the jyuubi's chakra.
Jyuubi's chakra = Senjutsu chakra
Hagorom's chakra = Senjutsu chakra
Sasuke's chakra =1/3 Hagorom's chakra = having 1/3 Senjutsu chakra

Sasuke didn't absorb any of Kurama's chakra(while performing SS) in the boruto movie.. Meaning his chakra didn't influence Sasuke's Susanoo in any way shape or form.. Good day.

This post doesn't make sense at all, in fact you just broke down your own logic all together. First of all, I don't need you or Demon Hawk to try to persuade anyone with common sense here. Second of all, I don't think you even understand what Sasuke did to create that Bijuu Susano'o.

Sasuke used his Susano'o as a Gedo Manzou to take in the Bijuu chakra and merge it together. More commonly known as Outer Path, but since he couldn't bring out the Gedo at this time he had to use his Susano'o as the container for the chakra itself.

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Next. You basically just said in your post "Bijuu chakra?? Not one and I mean not one did Sasuke EVER USE Bijuu chakra to make Senjutsu Susanoo..

Combining all 9 bijuu chakra is no longer Bijuu chakra it's now the jyuubi's chakra."

Do you know how this sounds to the average reader? You basically just said, Sasuke doesn't use Bijuu chakra to make this Susano'o. He just uses Bijuu chakra to make a different type of chakra. What kind of....

Lastly, nope. Of course I've seen the Movie, so I know each and every-time Sasuke's Susano'o transformed. Thankfully the scenes are already leaked and out in GIF form.

I. Sasuke uses the same method he did in VoTe2, but instead of not having all the Bijuu Chakra to merge with his Susano'o through Outer Path. He used Kurama's Chakra. Proving my point anyway.

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II. Again, just as above. Each time Sasuke's Susano'o transformed, it was because it had taken in Kurama's chakra when they merged together.

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Good-day.​

 

[DHOH]

This post doesn't make sense at all, in fact you just broke down your own logic all together. First of all, I don't need you or Demon Hawk to try to persuade anyone with common sense here. Second of all, I don't think you even understand what Sasuke did to create that Bijuu Susano'o.

Sasuke used his Susano'o as a Gedo Manzou to take in the Bijuu chakra and merge it together. More commonly known as Outer Path, but since he couldn't bring out the Gedo at this time he had to use his Susano'o as the container for the chakra itself.

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Next. You basically just said in your post "Bijuu chakra?? Not one and I mean not one did Sasuke EVER USE Bijuu chakra to make Senjutsu Susanoo..

Combining all 9 bijuu chakra is no longer Bijuu chakra it's now the jyuubi's chakra."

Do you know how this sounds to the average reader? You basically just said, Sasuke doesn't use Bijuu chakra to make this Susano'o. He just uses Bijuu chakra to make a different type of chakra. What kind of....

Lastly, nope. Of course I've seen the Movie, so I know each and every-time Sasuke's Susano'o transformed. Thankfully the scenes are already leaked and out in GIF form.

I. Sasuke uses the same method he did in VoTe2, but instead of not having all the Bijuu Chakra to merge with his Susano'o through Outer Path. He used Kurama's Chakra. Proving my point anyway.

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II. Again, just as above. Each time Sasuke's Susano'o transformed, it was because it had taken in Kurama's chakra when they merged together.

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Good-day.​

Lol you can't be serious? Are you really trying to tell me that it's the same Susanno in the first and second clip?

Merging?? More like coating..smh​

 

[lndra]

Lol you can't be serious? Are you really trying to tell me that it's the same Susanno in the first and second clip?

Merging?? More like coating..smh

The physical characteristics of that and the Bijuu Susano'o are there. Difference is, one merged with a head, and the other merged with an Avatar.

He can only make that type of Susano'o when he's linked to Bijuu Chakra in some way, shape, or form. Each time his Susano'o formed in that way, it was due to Kurama's chakra.

 

[DHOH]

The physical characteristics of that and the Bijuu Susano'o are there. Difference is, one merged with a head, and the other merged with an Avatar.

He can only make that type of Susano'o when he's linked to Bijuu Chakra in some way, shape, or form. Each time his Susano'o formed in that way, it was due to Kurama's chakra.

Yes please find it.. But still don't see how that proves anything..

I see it as no different in the way Sasuke makes a chidori... He can choose to add Senjutsu chakra to it whenever he feels like it.. The same principle should apply to Susano

 

[lndra]

Yes please find it.. But still don't see how that proves anything..

I see it as no different in the way Sasuke makes a chidori... He can choose to add Senjutsu chakra to it whenever he feels like it.. The same principle should apply to Susano

I'm just trying to understand how you think on this one, because I just don't get it.

Your saying that Sasuke doesn't need the Bijuu chakra to form his Susano'o but where exactly is he going to get the chakra to use OP to make it the Susano'o in the first place? We haven't seen Sasuke ever make the Iso'Susano'o without some type of Tailed Beast chakra in the mix-up either.

Though I'm trying my hardest to be patient and understanding, if you look back I didn't say anything rude to you at all but you said some words and generalized me immediately when I wasn't following :lol

 

[DHOH]

I'm just trying to understand how you think on this one, because I just don't get it.

Your saying that Sasuke doesn't need the Bijuu chakra to form his Susano'o but where exactly is he going to get the chakra to use OP to make it the Susano'o in the first place? We haven't seen Sasuke ever make the Iso'Susano'o without some type of Tailed Beast chakra in the mix-up either.

Though I'm trying my hardest to be patient and understanding, if you look back I didn't say anything rude to you at all but you said some words and generalized me immediately when I wasn't following :lol

Okay. I appreciate the patient and understanding, and I apologize for being rude.

My point of this thread is that Sasuke can use this new form of Susanoo (whatever you want to call it)without any outside source of power/chakra that he doesn't already have.

I'll ask you some questions and we can see what we agree with and don't agree with.

Do you agree that Sasuke merged all nine bijuu chakra together?
Do you agree that all bijuu chakra mering together formed jyuubi's chakra?
Do you agree the jyuubi's chakra is Senjutsu chakra?
Do you agree Hagoromo and jyuubi share the same kind of chakra which happens to be Senjutsu chakra?
Do you agree that Sasuke's chakra pool is 1/3 hagorom's (Senjutsu) chakra?

This should prove that Sasuke's new form of Susanoo source of power is Senjutsu chakra, not Senjutsu(mode)
If your answer is yes to all questions, what is stopping Sasuke from using the new Susanoo on his own?

 

[Warlocks]

Okay. I appreciate the patient and understanding, and I apologize for being rude.

My point of this thread is that Sasuke can use this new form of Susanoo (whatever you want to call it)without any outside source of power/chakra that he doesn't already have.

I'll ask you some questions and we can see what we agree with and don't agree with.

Do you agree that Sasuke merged all nine bijuu chakra together?
Do you agree that all bijuu chakra mering together formed jyuubi's chakra?
Do you agree the jyuubi's chakra is Senjutsu chakra?
Do you agree Hagoromo and jyuubi share the same kind of chakra which happens to be Senjutsu chakra?
Do you agree that Sasuke's chakra pool is 1/3 hagorom's (Senjutsu) chakra?

This should prove that Sasuke's new form of Susanoo source of power is Senjutsu chakra, not Senjutsu(mode)
If your answer is yes to all questions, what is stopping Sasuke from using the new Susanoo on his own?

aren't you gonna show the scene sasuke saying he using senjutsu chakra you said viz has shown so are you fappin without the proof
show us 1st then fap

 

[DHOH]

aren't you gonna show the scene sasuke saying he using senjutsu chakra you said viz has shown so are you fappin without the proof
show us 1st then fap

Indra can you also pull up the scan this guy is asking for? Thanks in advance..

 

[Ansatsuken]

1. Merging all Bijuus chakra inside PS was not the same as merging all Bijuu chakra inside Gedo Mazo. The later will gave you Juubi chakra and not the former. I debates this matter with SenseiSama and Hashirama Senjuu many times.

2. Hagoromo chakra was Six Path chakra and not Six Path Senjutsu chakra all the time. If he not activated his RSM with all that TSB, his chakra back to normal. Six Path chakra what we called it.

3. Sasuke received Hagoromo's chakra/power up when the old man was inside RSM. Thats mean he may get some of Six Path Senjutsu chakra from Hagoromo like how Juuga gave Sasuke his Senjutsu chakra. But not as strong/massive like what Naruto received.

4. Iso Susanoo level two/V2 what I called it(Referring to Sasuke Bijuu PS) doesnt need any senjutsu chakra from all Bijuu. Sasuke can shaped it at will using his own power, chakra and yin mastery.(I think this thread talked about this).

Bye:bye:

 

[Honord Sage]

Manga Fact Sasuke is not a Sage and has not received Sage training of any kind period. To use Senju energy in the war arc He had to have Jugo provided for Him. Jugo can gather and used Sage energy due to Orochimaru’s curse seal but its also the reason Jugo is Bi polar,sines Jugo newer had Sage training.

 

[Ootoriyu Jin]

Scans of what?!?!?

Exactly :bdpf:

 

[Ootoriyu Jin]

This post doesn't make sense at all, in fact you just broke down your own logic all together. First of all, I don't need you or Demon Hawk to try to persuade anyone with common sense here. Second of all, I don't think you even understand what Sasuke did to create that Bijuu Susano'o.

Sasuke used his Susano'o as a Gedo Manzou to take in the Bijuu chakra and merge it together. More commonly known as Outer Path, but since he couldn't bring out the Gedo at this time he had to use his Susano'o as the container for the chakra itself.

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Next. You basically just said in your post "Bijuu chakra?? Not one and I mean not one did Sasuke EVER USE Bijuu chakra to make Senjutsu Susanoo..

Combining all 9 bijuu chakra is no longer Bijuu chakra it's now the jyuubi's chakra."

Do you know how this sounds to the average reader? You basically just said, Sasuke doesn't use Bijuu chakra to make this Susano'o. He just uses Bijuu chakra to make a different type of chakra. What kind of....

Lastly, nope. Of course I've seen the Movie, so I know each and every-time Sasuke's Susano'o transformed. Thankfully the scenes are already leaked and out in GIF form.

I. Sasuke uses the same method he did in VoTe2, but instead of not having all the Bijuu Chakra to merge with his Susano'o through Outer Path. He used Kurama's Chakra. Proving my point anyway.

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II. Again, just as above. Each time Sasuke's Susano'o transformed, it was because it had taken in Kurama's chakra when they merged together.

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Good-day.​

Solo'ed, /Thread​

 

[DHOH]

Exactly :bdpf:

So you want scans but don't know of what? Lol sounds about right.

 

[Ripple Hole]

So you want scans but don't know of what? Lol sounds about right.

He requested scans, and there's only been 1 that you've been holding out
on that we actually wanted- the only who doesn't know what is you.

Scans of what?!?!?

 

[DHOH]

^^ seems like you are clueless as well lol.

 

[Warlocks]

^^ seems like you are clueless as well lol.

lol to you all clueless is it and sasuke had never claimed he can can use senjutsu

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where

 

[lndra]

Okay. I appreciate the patient and understanding, and I apologize for being rude.

I understand though, having a thread and trying to prove something while having to deal with lots of comments can be frustrating at times.

My point of this thread is that Sasuke can use this new form of Susanoo (whatever you want to call it)without any outside source of power/chakra that he doesn't already have.

I'll ask you some questions and we can see what we agree with and don't agree with.

Okay i'm listening.

Do you agree that Sasuke merged all nine bijuu chakra together?

Yes he used Outer Path to place them in his Susano'o as the Gedo Manzou vessel replacement.

Do you agree that all bijuu chakra mering together formed jyuubi's chakra?

Sort of. Originally the Tailed Beasts were the Juubi, so placing their chakra into the vessel can create a Juubi-like creation.

Do you agree the jyuubi's chakra is Senjutsu chakra?

I explained above.

Do you agree Hagoromo and jyuubi share the same kind of chakra which happens to be Senjutsu chakra?

Well Hagoromo was the Juubi Jinchuriki, but they don't have the same chakra. Six Path Senjutsu came from the Fruit via Kaguya who birthed two sons. That's why they have Truth Seeking Balls and such. Even Hamura despite him not having any contact with the Tailed Beast, and younger Hagoromo who wasn't a Jinchuriki yet.

Do you agree that Sasuke's chakra pool is 1/3 hagorom's (Senjutsu) chakra?

I don't know how to calculate that at all.

This should prove that Sasuke's new form of Susanoo source of power is Senjutsu chakra, not Senjutsu(mode)
If your answer is yes to all questions, what is stopping Sasuke from using the new Susanoo on his own?

I replied to your questions