Sasuke's Senjutsu Susanoo

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Please quote me on when I said it was a theory.. I'll wait.

Wait, so you're saying this shit as a fact?

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Wait, so you're saying this shit as a fact?

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Read my last quote you quoted lol. Then you would need to say the same shit because you were proved wrong lol
 

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Read my last quote you quoted lol. Then you would need to say the same shit because you were proved wrong lol

Alright man. Answer this.

Are you saying this shit as a fact or theory?
 

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I've already answer your question.. My answer hasn't changed.
 

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So much wrong here.. Read the replys..

Oh please, you're just grasping anything you can and trying to make it sound logical, at this point it's baseless fanfiction.
 

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Lol wow...

I had no ideal that so many people don't know the difference between Rikidou chakra and Rikidou sage mode..

Of course, you can't refute the fact that a person awakened "Hagoromo Chakra" without gaining Senjutsu ;)
 

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Black chidori = senjutsu.
What part do you not understand that Hagoromo's chakra is senjutsu??

Darui used black lightning so he has senjutsu too? Or just strong chakra?
 

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I agree for once with you, and never doubted it was senjustu.
Except the part where you claim he can recreate senjustu susanoo on his
own.
 

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Naruto never overpowered him. Naruto=Sasuke, The chakra both Naruto, and Sasuke lost before the Sage power up is irrelevant. That chakra was replaced and surpassed by the Sage when he gave them half of his chakra, and at that time Naruto was also able to use chakra from all the Bijuu. Also, Naruto was using the Yang Kyuubi's chakra during the war, which was also replaced by the Yin Kyuubi.
Someone else brought up the the chakra lvl
 

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Lol okay I'll entertain you for a little while...

In the Viz scan Sasuke says "I have senjutsu to" and prepares a black chidori.. So yea he has senjutsu just not a senjutsu mode.

pls scene i didnt know that
 

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That could explain why Sasuke is so compatible with senjutsu without even having to train for it.

Yes, pretty much.

The Bijuu's chakra not the bijuu themselves,

Yeah, we all know that.

therefore it had nothing to do with the juubi.

Exactly. That's why Sasuke did not have any Juubi related powers like TBBs etc. The only thing it was related to was the Juubi's chakra, not the Juubi itself.

Juubi chakra doesn't come from the Bijuu

Of course it does. Juubi's chakra is formed by the aggregation of all the 9 bijuus' chakra. How can you say something so ignorant as that?

it comes from the juubi itself

Yes, it does. But not necessarily. The chakra does not particularly have to come after Juubi is created.

First, you say that bijuus chakra was individual so it could not produce Juubi's chakra just by being together. But then, when I gave proof of chakra being merged, so now you're resorting to this non-supported biased argument without any solid logic or evidence, just because you don't want to accept the truth.

and that's only when the 9 bodies fuse to make the juubi.

Juubi is formed when 9 bijuus fuse together. Juubi's chakra is formed when 9 bijuus' chakra is combined together. It's so damn simple...

You're saying when all the bijuu chakra merge it magically turns into juubi chakra.

There is no point of "magic" here. And yes, it does. The Juubi's chakra is the aggregation of the tailed beasts chakra. And Juubi itself is the aggregate of the tailed beasts.

First, you say that

Them being unable to kned senjutsu is obviously another point i'm trying to make.

They don't need to kneed senjutsu. Plus, they can't do that anyway. They aren't even existent, so how can they possibly "do" something like kneeding senjutsu? Or are you saying tailed beasts chakra can kneed senjutsu on their own?

tbh this isn't worth arguing since this is just a theory on you and the OP's part.

It's not a theory. It's a factual conclusion. And a very non-confusing and inarguable one. But you Naruto fans always have something to counter no matter how false or illogical it is.

Hmmmm why don't just call it Outer Path Susanoo

Because Outer Path is not required to create it. The Outer Path only deals with merging the bijuus' chakra and integrating it with Susanoo. If Sasuke creates that using his own Six Paths chakra, then Outer Path has no business there.

This is all assumptions, merging the Bijuu chakra doesn't just magically create Juubi chakra that was a collection of Bijuu chakra. The Juubi chakra is from the Juubi end of story. The movie shows Sasuke with the Bijuu cloak before creating the Bijuu Susanoo thus they are linked by chakra, Bijuu Susanoo is the combination of Bijuu chakra and a Susanoo container and last time I checked Kurama was a Bijuu.

Sasuke doesn't have Bijuu Susanoo thought it doesn't mean Naruto is stronger, they are equal.

Your response is about as delusional and illogical as Nips's response, so please read my response to that. But I'll address a few things separately.

Firstly, if Kurama particularly COMPARED Sasuke's merger of bijuus' chakra to Hagomoro's separation, then they ARE linked processes. In this case, they're inverse processes of each other (Juubi to Bijuus and Bijuus to Juubi, we're talking about chakra of course, Hagomoro has the added benefit of creating forms). There is absolutely no point about "magic" in all of this. It's a natural and logical phenomenon.

Secondly, we know the fact that Sasuke merged the chakra through Kurama's dialogue. So according to you, what is created by MERGING/FUSING all 9 bijuus' chakra? It obviously has to be the Juubi's chakra. If your answer is different, then state it and explain it.

And your point about "Juubi's chakra coming from Juubi itself" is lame. We know that. But there is more to it. If Juubi is the aggregate of all 9 bijuus, then obviously Juubi's chakra is created by the aggregation of the 9 bijuus chakra, because that's what creates the Juubi.

I do and the sage chakra sasuke got produced the rinnegan not senjutsu Naruto got the sage chakra that upped his senjutsu basically

Sasuke got the Six Paths Yin chakra which is senjutsu chakra by default. The rest is irrelevant. Explaining things to YOU is my biggest challenge and the most difficult task I've to face on NB, but I'll try to make my point clear anyway.

Sasuke didn't get Sage's chakra that created the Rinnegan, neither did Naruto get Sage's chakra that upped his Senjutsu. Sasuke got Six Paths chakra (source of power) AND Rinnegan (power). And Naruto got Six Paths chakra (source of power) and Six Paths Senjutsu (power). They did come as a package, but they weren't "created" by each other.

Sasuke's Six Paths chakra is senjutsu chakra itself. It's NOT Senjutsu itself, only the Senjutsu chakra. And it's NOT Six Paths Senjutsu chakra, only Senjutsu chakra.

IF Sasuke HAD Senjutsu Susanoo THAN KISHI WOULD'VE GIVEN

NARUTO RINNEGAN ASURA MOD THAT YOU WOUDN'T LIK IT

NOW WHAT ARE YOU DOING ONLY MAKE YOUR FAV LOOK BAD

You are actually making yourself look pretty bad by not understanding anything.

Sasuke does not have Senjutsu, so naturally that removes any question about Six Paths Senjutsu. He has Senjutsu chakra ONLY, and that also not Six Paths Senjutsu chakra, but just Senjutsu chakra. The reason for that is Sage's chakra is Senjutsu chakra by default.

Senjutsu is Naruto's power. And Sasuke does not have Senjutsu (he only has senjutsu chakra). So don't feel insecure about Sasuke getting Naruto's powers. And yeah, your counterclaim of "Naruto's Rinnegan" is moot now, because Sasuke doesn't have Naruto's powers, so Naruto should also not have Sasuke's powers.

Naruto never overpowered him. Naruto=Sasuke, The chakra both Naruto, and Sasuke lost before the Sage power up is irrelevant. That chakra was replaced and surpassed by the Sage when he gave them half of his chakra, and at that time Naruto was also able to use chakra from all the Bijuu. Also, Naruto was using the Yang Kyuubi's chakra during the war, which was also replaced by the Yin Kyuubi.

Exactly! Both Naruto and Sasuke started out with fresh and COMPLETELY replenished chakra reserves after meeting the Sage. All they lost prior to that is irrelevant. And even though Sasuke doesn't have Kurama's massive surplus supplies, he still managed to last almost as long as Naruto.

Sasuke is like iPhone 6S and Naruto is like a Galaxy S6. Sasuke (iPhone 6S) has Six Paths Yin chakra reserves (DUAL CORE A9 processor) whereas Naruto (Galaxy S6) has Six Paths Yang chakra reserves + Kurama's chakra reserves (OCTA CORE processor), yet Sasuke's (iPhone 6S's) chakra w.r.t. power and consumption (performance/benchmark scores) is on par with Naruto (Galaxy S6) due to high quality chakra (better CPU architecture/better software optimization) which gives same power with less quantity of chakra (same performance with less CPU cores).
 
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***** you sayin' my S6 is a Naruto? It hurts me man, even my phone's crying right now. Jk.

Not surprised that people are deying the Juubi Chakra part, nitpicking at its best. Anyway the whole assumption of BM making Susanoo shift is nonsensical because Sasuke showed his PS pattern (equipped on Kurama) while fighting Momo in Konoha, and only later the TPS (calling this True Perfect Susanoo until it gets an official name) one, indicating that Naruto's Rikudou Chakra doesn't resonate with it but it's up to Sasuke to decide which version to use.
 

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Yes, pretty much.



Yeah, we all know that.



Exactly. That's why Sasuke did not have any Juubi related powers like TBBs etc. The only thing it was related to was the Juubi's chakra, not the Juubi itself.



Of course it does. Juubi's chakra is formed by the aggregation of all the 9 bijuus' chakra. How can you say something so ignorant as that?



Yes, it does. But not necessarily. The chakra does not particularly have to come after Juubi is created.

First, you say that bijuus chakra was individual so it could not produce Juubi's chakra just by being together. But then, when I gave proof of chakra being merged, so now you're resorting to this non-supported biased argument without any solid logic or evidence, just because you don't want to accept the truth.



Juubi is formed when 9 bijuus fuse together. Juubi's chakra is formed when 9 bijuus' chakra is combined together. It's so damn simple...



There is no point of "magic" here. And yes, it does. The Juubi's chakra is the aggregation of the tailed beasts chakra. And Juubi itself is the aggregate of the tailed beasts.

First, you say that



They don't need to kneed senjutsu. Plus, they can't do that anyway. They aren't even existent, so how can they possibly "do" something like kneeding senjutsu? Or are you saying tailed beasts chakra can kneed senjutsu on their own?



It's not a theory. It's a factual conclusion. And a very non-confusing and inarguable one. But you Naruto fans always have something to counter no matter how false or illogical it is.



Because Outer Path is not required to create it. The Outer Path only deals with merging the bijuus' chakra and integrating it with Susanoo. If Sasuke creates that using his own Six Paths chakra, then Outer Path has no business there.



Your response is about as delusional and illogical as Nips's response, so please read my response to that. But I'll address a few things separately.

Firstly, if Kurama particularly COMPARED Sasuke's merger of bijuus' chakra to Hagomoro's separation, then they ARE linked processes. In this case, they're inverse processes of each other (Juubi to Bijuus and Bijuus to Juubi, we're talking about chakra of course, Hagomoro has the added benefit of creating forms). There is absolutely no point about "magic" in all of this. It's a natural and logical phenomenon.

Secondly, we know the fact that Sasuke merged the chakra through Kurama's dialogue. So according to you, what is created by MERGING/FUSING all 9 bijuus' chakra? It obviously has to be the Juubi's chakra. If your answer is different, then state it and explain it.

And your point about "Juubi's chakra coming from Juubi itself" is lame. We know that. But there is more to it. If Juubi is the aggregate of all 9 bijuus, then obviously Juubi's chakra is created by the aggregation of the 9 bijuus chakra, because that's what creates the Juubi.



Sasuke got the Six Paths Yin chakra which is senjutsu chakra by default. The rest is irrelevant. Explaining things to YOU is my biggest challenge and the most difficult task I've to face on NB, but I'll try to make my point clear anyway.

Sasuke didn't get Sage's chakra that created the Rinnegan, neither did Naruto get Sage's chakra that upped his Senjutsu. Sasuke got Six Paths chakra (source of power) AND Rinnegan (power). And Naruto got Six Paths chakra (source of power) and Six Paths Senjutsu (power). They did come as a package, but they weren't "created" by each other.

Sasuke's Six Paths chakra is senjutsu chakra itself. It's NOT Senjutsu itself, only the Senjutsu chakra. And it's NOT Six Paths Senjutsu chakra, only Senjutsu chakra.



You are actually making yourself look pretty bad by not understanding anything.

Sasuke does not have Senjutsu, so naturally that removes any question about Six Paths Senjutsu. He has Senjutsu chakra ONLY, and that also not Six Paths Senjutsu chakra, but just Senjutsu chakra. The reason for that is Sage's chakra is Senjutsu chakra by default.

Senjutsu is Naruto's power. And Sasuke does not have Senjutsu (he only has senjutsu chakra). So don't feel insecure about Sasuke getting Naruto's powers. And yeah, your counterclaim of "Naruto's Rinnegan" is moot now, because Sasuke doesn't have Naruto's powers, so Naruto should also not have Sasuke's powers.



Exactly! Both Naruto and Sasuke started out with fresh and COMPLETELY replenished chakra reserves after meeting the Sage. All they lost prior to that is irrelevant. And even though Sasuke doesn't have Kurama's massive surplus supplies, he still managed to last almost as long as Naruto.

Sasuke is like iPhone 6S and Naruto is like a Galaxy S6. Sasuke (iPhone 6S) has Six Paths Yin chakra reserves (DUAL CORE A9 processor) whereas Naruto (Galaxy S6) has Six Paths Yang chakra reserves + Kurama's chakra reserves (OCTA CORE processor), yet Sasuke's (iPhone 6S's) chakra w.r.t. power and consumption (performance/benchmark scores) is on par with Naruto (Galaxy S6) due to high quality chakra (better CPU architecture/better software optimization) which gives same power with less quantity of chakra (same performance with less CPU cores).

THREAD!!

Hope you clowns learned something and can accept the truth..
 

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It's not a theory. It's a factual conclusion. And a very non-confusing and inarguable one. But you Naruto fans always have something to counter no matter how false or illogical it is.



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It's a theory man. A very good theory but a theory in the end. You have no proof or scans showing that Tailed beasts fusing their chakra together (without becoming the juubi) would bring about juubi chakra.


 
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Yes, pretty much.



Yeah, we all know that.



Exactly. That's why Sasuke did not have any Juubi related powers like TBBs etc. The only thing it was related to was the Juubi's chakra, not the Juubi itself.



Of course it does. Juubi's chakra is formed by the aggregation of all the 9 bijuus' chakra. How can you say something so ignorant as that?



Yes, it does. But not necessarily. The chakra does not particularly have to come after Juubi is created.

First, you say that bijuus chakra was individual so it could not produce Juubi's chakra just by being together. But then, when I gave proof of chakra being merged, so now you're resorting to this non-supported biased argument without any solid logic or evidence, just because you don't want to accept the truth.



Juubi is formed when 9 bijuus fuse together. Juubi's chakra is formed when 9 bijuus' chakra is combined together. It's so damn simple...



There is no point of "magic" here. And yes, it does. The Juubi's chakra is the aggregation of the tailed beasts chakra. And Juubi itself is the aggregate of the tailed beasts.

First, you say that



They don't need to kneed senjutsu. Plus, they can't do that anyway. They aren't even existent, so how can they possibly "do" something like kneeding senjutsu? Or are you saying tailed beasts chakra can kneed senjutsu on their own?



It's not a theory. It's a factual conclusion. And a very non-confusing and inarguable one. But you Naruto fans always have something to counter no matter how false or illogical it is.



Because Outer Path is not required to create it. The Outer Path only deals with merging the bijuus' chakra and integrating it with Susanoo. If Sasuke creates that using his own Six Paths chakra, then Outer Path has no business there.



Your response is about as delusional and illogical as Nips's response, so please read my response to that. But I'll address a few things separately.

Firstly, if Kurama particularly COMPARED Sasuke's merger of bijuus' chakra to Hagomoro's separation, then they ARE linked processes. In this case, they're inverse processes of each other (Juubi to Bijuus and Bijuus to Juubi, we're talking about chakra of course, Hagomoro has the added benefit of creating forms). There is absolutely no point about "magic" in all of this. It's a natural and logical phenomenon.

Secondly, we know the fact that Sasuke merged the chakra through Kurama's dialogue. So according to you, what is created by MERGING/FUSING all 9 bijuus' chakra? It obviously has to be the Juubi's chakra. If your answer is different, then state it and explain it.

And your point about "Juubi's chakra coming from Juubi itself" is lame. We know that. But there is more to it. If Juubi is the aggregate of all 9 bijuus, then obviously Juubi's chakra is created by the aggregation of the 9 bijuus chakra, because that's what creates the Juubi.



Sasuke got the Six Paths Yin chakra which is senjutsu chakra by default. The rest is irrelevant. Explaining things to YOU is my biggest challenge and the most difficult task I've to face on NB, but I'll try to make my point clear anyway.

Sasuke didn't get Sage's chakra that created the Rinnegan, neither did Naruto get Sage's chakra that upped his Senjutsu. Sasuke got Six Paths chakra (source of power) AND Rinnegan (power). And Naruto got Six Paths chakra (source of power) and Six Paths Senjutsu (power). They did come as a package, but they weren't "created" by each other.

Sasuke's Six Paths chakra is senjutsu chakra itself. It's NOT Senjutsu itself, only the Senjutsu chakra. And it's NOT Six Paths Senjutsu chakra, only Senjutsu chakra.



You are actually making yourself look pretty bad by not understanding anything.

Sasuke does not have Senjutsu, so naturally that removes any question about Six Paths Senjutsu. He has Senjutsu chakra ONLY, and that also not Six Paths Senjutsu chakra, but just Senjutsu chakra. The reason for that is Sage's chakra is Senjutsu chakra by default.

Senjutsu is Naruto's power. And Sasuke does not have Senjutsu (he only has senjutsu chakra). So don't feel insecure about Sasuke getting Naruto's powers. And yeah, your counterclaim of "Naruto's Rinnegan" is moot now, because Sasuke doesn't have Naruto's powers, so Naruto should also not have Sasuke's powers.



Exactly! Both Naruto and Sasuke started out with fresh and COMPLETELY replenished chakra reserves after meeting the Sage. All they lost prior to that is irrelevant. And even though Sasuke doesn't have Kurama's massive surplus supplies, he still managed to last almost as long as Naruto.

Sasuke is like iPhone 6S and Naruto is like a Galaxy S6. Sasuke (iPhone 6S) has Six Paths Yin chakra reserves (DUAL CORE A9 processor) whereas Naruto (Galaxy S6) has Six Paths Yang chakra reserves + Kurama's chakra reserves (OCTA CORE processor), yet Sasuke's (iPhone 6S's) chakra w.r.t. power and consumption (performance/benchmark scores) is on par with Naruto (Galaxy S6) due to high quality chakra (better CPU architecture/better software optimization) which gives same power with less quantity of chakra (same performance with less CPU cores).

Dude madara even said it's the sage of six path senjutsu . Narutos toad sm is not the same as what he got from hago and sasuke doesn't have senjutsu he still only affected madara with melee attacks and that chidori he hit madara was a melee attack even kakashi was able to hit kaguya and she nullifies all jutsu except melee attacks. I get ur point tho it's confusing really it's hard to tell if sasuke has senjutsu or he is just compatible with other people that use senjutsu or he can somehow manipulate it if it's there for him if u get what I'm saying
 

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I don't really see the point of this thread.

It needs Bijuu Chakra to fuel, right? No one should be capable of producing that without Bijuu Chakra, no matter what it forms into it. Heck by that logic Sasuke uses Six Path Senjutsu by using Kurama in the Boruto Movie but he doesn't. He just uses Bijuu Chakra :lol

Though outside of the understanding of what Sasuke uses to create this Susano'o ... we all understand he uses Outer Path right?
 
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Sorry but i say no, so you can go.

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