Sasuke's rinnegan power and his new "speed"

[spartan_kenobi]

Not sure if this has already been put out there, but I believe Sasuke's left eye allows him to INSTANTLY switch positions with ANOTHER OBJECT within certain range of him:

1. When madara went for his eye sasuke exchanged position with his sword which he previously threw at the limbo shadow madara, reappearing near the rock where the sword was shown stuck in an early panel, as you can tell from narutos relative position

2. During their combo attack sasuke told naruto to target him, so all he needed to do is get near to madara then switch position with MADARA himself, hence how easily both of them were able to hit madara dead on, and this explains madaras look of surprise getting hit

3. This is also why sasuke was so fast slicing madara in half, all he needed to do is get "in range" of madara then exchange position with a pebble by madara's side

 

[Gatsuuga]

Interesting, can't say there's any points I'd disagree on. Seems pretty plausible to me. I wonder if he has to touch something first (like touch it with his moon tattoo) or whether he just chooses whatever. He has touched Madara and his sword since he got the moon tattoo.

Its a cool ability regardless.

 

[spartan_kenobi]

During madara's initial star wars lightning attack, sasuke presumably switched position with a rock on his right, so I guess he doesn't need to touch the object he's switching place with.

 

[Zorø]

I like sasuke new powerup...

 

[Gatsuuga]

During madara's initial star wars lightning attack, sasuke presumably switched position with a rock on his right, so I guess he doesn't need to touch the object he's switching place with.

Just had a look your right. People have been saying he ported to his sword to avoid the lightning....I wonder why?

 

[llxFLaMe]

He had his sword when he dodged the lighting so I guess he did switch spots with a rock or something

 

[spartan_kenobi]

If this is indeed how it works then I guess it qualifies as a type of space-time jutsu. I find it interesting how it compares to FTG (which naruto may get or may have already learned somehow): lacks FTG's infinite range but requires no prep time (kunai or chakra marking)

 

[ShinjuMadara]

Kinda looks like he used Kamui.

 

[spartan_kenobi]

I think Kishi mentioned a few chapters before that Kamui teleportation isn't instantaneous as shown here, besides if it's Kamui instead of switching it wouldn't have made sense for sasuke to tell naruto to target him and them succeeding afterwards. Also Madara said sasuke's dojutsu has range limit, a drawback Kamui doesn't share.

 

[Second Path of Pain]

his powerup is cool, but i expected more, tbh

 

[ssjelf]

I think its more along the lines of izanagi, the power to create something from nothing. A definite sharingan power and rinnegan power put together. I wouldn't say switching but rather a literal shift of where he was in reality. If it were like FTG i don't think naruto woul be that surprised to see sasuke on the other side of him, its more like Naruto had his realities mixed when he saw asuke over there. Not just speed but naruto's perceptions of reality seem to have mislead him and he was surprised because of it.

 

[spartan_kenobi]

I'm thinking both sasuke and naruto have other tricks up their sleeves, just like I don't think Naruto only has bijuu variations of rasengans in his sage powered arsenal.

Speaking of other sasuke upgrades, I'm finding the sword he used to cut madara in half parculiar, the energy aura surrounding the blade lacks the pointy edges of his chidori enhanced sword, and it isn't black like his enton sword. Also note how the blade was in his LEFT hand (with moon tatoo). So I wonder if it is the creation of Yin sage chakra's origin, for naruto's Yang chakra infused lava rasengan could cut down the entire god tree but wasn't able to cut madara's sage body in two.

 

[ssjelf]

I'm thinking both sasuke and naruto have other tricks up their sleeves, just like I don't think Naruto only has bijuu variations of rasengans in his sage powered arsenal.

Speaking of other sasuke upgrades, I'm finding the sword he used to cut madara in half parculiar, the energy aura surrounding the blade lacks the pointy edges of his chidori enhanced sword, and it isn't black like his enton sword. Also note how the blade was in his LEFT hand (with moon tatoo). So I wonder if it is the creation of Yin sage chakra's origin, for naruto's Yang chakra infused lava rasengan could cut down the entire god tree but wasn't able to cut madara's sage body in two.

Its his ranged chidori attack that he used to cut Deidaras dragon's wing. Perhaps infused with yin chakra.

 

[spartan_kenobi]

At first I thought about izanagi too, but on closer inspection I don't think it quite fits:

1. Izanagi is said to be a kinjutsu having been used by generations of uchiha, I think if Sasuke's using izanagi or an enhanced version of it, Madara would have recognized the chakra immediately, as Obito did during sasuke's fight with danzo, instead of taking his time to slowly "figure out" part of his jutsu

2. Izanagi makes sure the user's actions succeed, so if that's what sasuke's doing, he should simply instruct naruto to "try and hit madara" then make that a reality, instead of telling naruto to "hit me", it would make no sense

3. Most importantly, Itachi's exposition about izanami vs izanagi during their fight with Kabuto highlights how reality bending is a power of blinding arrogance (literally) and if sasuke's actually using an advanced version of the technique Itachi despises and pities so much, it would almost be like betrayal of itachi's vision

 

[spartan_kenobi]

But I think the ranged chidori attack (I think it's called Chidori True Spear) has sasuke's hand in a flat position (like when he's performing chidori), whereas here sasuke is shown holding the energy blade, abit similar as when he uses the enton blade.

 

[ssjelf]

At first I thought about izanagi too, but on closer inspection I don't think it quite fits:

1. Izanagi is said to be a kinjutsu having been used by generations of uchiha, I think if Sasuke's using izanagi or an enhanced version of it, Madara would have recognized the chakra immediately, as Obito did during sasuke's fight with danzo, instead of taking his time to slowly "figure out" part of his jutsu

2. Izanagi makes sure the user's actions succeed, so if that's what sasuke's doing, he should simply instruct naruto to "try and hit madara" then make that a reality, instead of telling naruto to "hit me", it would make no sense

3. Most importantly, Itachi's exposition about izanami vs izanagi during their fight with Kabuto highlights how reality bending is a power of blinding arrogance (literally) and if sasuke's actually using an advanced version of the technique Itachi despises and pities so much, it would almost be like betrayal of itachi's vision

All true but... when I say izanagi you interpret it as what was used by Danzo. In reality, its ability is so much more. The creation of something from nothing. this has been heavily implied with Naruto having the create life from nothing power. Using Yin chakra to give something form from nothing. i say izanagi because it is a derivation, I mean to say an izanagi like jutsu. One that has to do with creation. I mainly used izanagi as a parallel to show the mode of operation. Also Izanagi was used selfishly by the uchiha, but Sasuke isn't doing that, nor is he truly rewriting his death, more like dodging death. His ability is also limited as evidenced by the loss of tomoe which might regen. And limited by range.

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[ssjelf]

But I think the ranged chidori attack (I think it's called Chidori True Spear) has sasuke's hand in a flat position (like when he's performing chidori), whereas here sasuke is shown holding the energy blade, abit similar as when he uses the enton blade.

The blade might be a bit misaligned there. It looks like he is holding something, but it also looks flat and pointing behind him.

 

[spartan_kenobi]

I think when madara said to himself "so this is your eye's power" after getting pierced by sasuke's sword it is a key point.

When sasuke first "dodged" the lightning, it looked extremely like reality warping in line with izanagi's power. But when madara was pierced by sasuke's SWORD while charging at SASUKE, he turned his head and saw how Sasuke and the sword are at EACH OTHER'S PREVIOUS POSITION he was shown to have understood something important.

This sequence of events is very special and in madara's eyes more illuminating than sasuke first dodging the lightning attack, and I actually think the fact that sasuke was suddenly at the sword's location made Madara realize it's space time jutsu instead of reality warping, for in the latter's case the precise arrangement of the key objects' coordinates (sasuke and the sword's) would be unexplained and meaningless.

 

[spartan_kenobi]

But nice catch ssjelf in your theory about sasuke temporarily losing the outer circle of tomoes in his left eye after using his ability. An extra drawback aside from range for such a powerful technique sounds very reasonable.

 

[Behemoth55]

Not sure if this has already been put out there, but I believe Sasuke's left eye allows him to INSTANTLY switch positions with ANOTHER OBJECT within certain range of him:

How did Sasuke escape Madaras Inton Jutsu? There was no object to switch positions.