Sasuke's revolution.

Status
Not open for further replies.

To Whatever

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
Mar 27, 2013
Messages
18,010
Reaction score
1,512
How do you think Sasuke would deal with the poverty and crime of his planet while defending it from aliens?

Would he allow advancements in technology and free thinking? Or governments? Would he be juror, judge, and executioner? What power would the feudal lords have? (The ones who write the villages checks and have the political power)


Keep in mind that this is if he won vote 2 and successfully killed the Kate's.
 
Last edited:

The Necromancer

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
Apr 16, 2012
Messages
18,138
Reaction score
2,096
What? Almost nothing would change, except there would be another villain out there like Madara or Obito who the villages would ally themselves against. It would be literally the same exact world, except Naruto and the old kages would be gone, and it would last as long as Sasuke could live, which is likely a long time, if not forever.

He's not sitting on a throne as his new slave colonies build him ornate temples, starving in the mud...
 

To Whatever

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
Mar 27, 2013
Messages
18,010
Reaction score
1,512
What? Almost nothing would change, except there would be another villain out there like Madara or Obito who the villages would ally themselves against.

He's not sitting on a throne as his new slave colonies build him ornate temples, starving in the mud...

I'm not implying that. I doubt Sasuke would let the less fortunate starve or live in poverty. like people in the world are. His goal is to create peace, correct? The hungry and less fortunate will steal and kill to fill their bellies.

The technology thing was because Sasuke isn't knowledgeable about such things. Scientist in the current world can weaponize jutsu for everyone to be able to use. If he is their common enemy I don't believe he would let their advancement grow enough for him to not be able to defend against it.

The government is always corrupt so I was also wondering what he would do about government. and the feudal lords.
 
Last edited:

Darth AniCetuS

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
Nov 4, 2010
Messages
14,091
Reaction score
838
How could there be free thinking when his revolution involves ruling by fear and power. His way would've been even worse than Madara's and Obito's.
 
Last edited:

The Necromancer

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
Apr 16, 2012
Messages
18,138
Reaction score
2,096
I'm not implying that. I doubt Sasuke would let the less fortunate starve or live in poverty. like people in the world are. His goal is to create peace, correct? The hungry and less fortunate will steal and kill to fill their bellies.

The technology thing was because Sasuke isn't knowledgeable about such things. Scientist in the current world can weaponize jutsu for everyone to be able to use.

That's what the police are for...? And what the hell does Sasuke have at all to do with technological advancement...?

I really don't understand what you think it happening. Literally take the state of the world during the war, replace Obito with Sasuke, and make it last forever, and you're done.

You seem to be of the mindset that peace means "sterility" and "order"
 

To Whatever

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
Mar 27, 2013
Messages
18,010
Reaction score
1,512
That's what the police are for...?

I really don't understand what you think it happening. Literally take the state of the world during the war, replace Obito with Sasuke, and make it last forever, and you're done.

You seem to be of the mindset that peace means "sterility" and "order"

So he would have police stop the less fortunate people from committing crimes rather than help them? He has the power to feed them or make others help them. That's not my mindset. Sasuke wants to create peace. The state of the world during war is not peace.
 

The Necromancer

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
Apr 16, 2012
Messages
18,138
Reaction score
2,096
So he would have police stop the less fortunate people from committing crimes rather than help them? That's not my mindset. Sasuke wants to create peace. The state of the world during war is not peace.

You're not getting this at all.

Sasuke has nothing to do with the state of the world. The villages will run the same exact way. Nothing will change. He is alone. His only purpose would be crushing any attempted violence or war on a grand scale. He's not becoming a glorified police officer, or attempting to create a utopia free from hardship, he is creating peace, as in freedom from war. That's it. He's not even going to see another person until they attempt to raise an army to come after him.

Did Obito come into the village to stop crime or hand out food to the desperate?
 

Calpal

Anbu Operative ๐ŸŽญ
Veteran
Joined
Mar 19, 2013
Messages
4,225
Reaction score
358
He probably wouldn't have done much tbh.

Just take out big enough bad guys and use intimidation tactics to try and maintain order
 

To Whatever

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
Mar 27, 2013
Messages
18,010
Reaction score
1,512
You're not getting this at all.

Sasuke has nothing to do with the state of the world. The villages will run the same exact way. Nothing will change. He is alone. His only purpose would be crushing any attempted violence or war on a grand scale. He's not becoming a glorified police officer, or attempting to create a utopia free from hardship, he is creating peace, as in freedom from war. That's it. He's not even going to see another person until they attempt to raise an army to come after him.

Did Obito come into the village to stop crime or hand out food to the desperate?

He has everything to do with the state of the world as he created it given his actions at Vote 2. How is it peaceful when people are going to bed hungry or commit crimes. He's going to try stop grand scale wars and violence but that doesn't break the cycle at all. I do not believe Sasuke would let this happen. I believe he cares about everyone. If he stops wars that's not about him and wars that are about him but doesn't help solve the issues. How does that create peace?

He's going to perpetually stop wars and uprisings against him without trying to solve the issues?

You must be registered for see images


He said, "shinobi problems" and judgement and executions.


Obito was planning on cocooning everyone into a dreamlike world where food,water and necessities to live weren't needed as everyone would be whatever they wanted in their own world.
 
Last edited:

The Necromancer

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
Apr 16, 2012
Messages
18,138
Reaction score
2,096
He has everything to do with the state of the world as he created it given his actions at Vote 2. How is it peaceful when people are going to bed hungry or commit crimes. He's going to try stop grand scale wars and violence but that doesn't break the cycle at all. I do not believe Sasuke would let this happen. I believe he cares about everyone. If he stops wars that's not about him and wars that are about him but doesn't help solve the issues. How does that create peace?





Obito was planning on cocooning everyone into a dreamlike world where food,water and necessities to live weren't needed as everyone would be whatever they wanted in their own world.

Because, as I already said, peace does not mean freedom from hardship, it means freedom from war.

Just because your definition of peace is overblown, doesn't mean Sasuke's plan was incomplete.

Obito and Madara were attempting to create a Utopia. Pain, Naruto, and Sasuke had the more realistic goal of creating peace, rather than perfection.

He's going to perpetually stop wars and uprisings against him without trying to solve the issues?

Yes...
 
Last edited:

To Whatever

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
Mar 27, 2013
Messages
18,010
Reaction score
1,512
Because, as I already said, peace does not mean freedom from hardship, it means freedom from war.

Just because your definition of peace is overblown, doesn't mean Sasuke's plan was incomplete.

Obito and Madara were attempting to create a Utopia. Pain, Naruto, and Sasuke had the more realistic goal of creating peace, rather than perfection.

I'm not saying Sasuke's plan is incomplete. I was only asking if he was going to address any issues with the world outside of war. And he isn't. He'll let tension brew to the brink of war then quell them, repeating this action forever.




Alright then. He said "Shinobi problems" and Darkness and war are only one of them. There's many more problems.
 
Last edited:

The Necromancer

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
Apr 16, 2012
Messages
18,138
Reaction score
2,096
I'm not saying Sasuke's plan is incomplete. I was only asking if he was going to address any issues with the world outside of war. And he isn't. He'll let tension brew to the brink of war then quell them, repeating this action forever.




Alright then. He said "Shinobi problems" and Darkness and war are only one of them. There's many more problems.

Provide me with a scan of any impoverished shinobi. Or a shinobi without food. Or a homeless shinobi. A shinobi with a harmful addiction that negatively affected their well-being. A shinobi involved in gang related activity.

Even orphans have been sheltered and fed consistently throughout the series. War is the only major problem in this manga.
 
Last edited:

To Whatever

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
Mar 27, 2013
Messages
18,010
Reaction score
1,512
Provide me with a scan of any impoverished shinobi. Or a shinobi without food. Or a homeless shinobi. A shinobi with a harmful addiction that negatively affected their well-being.

Even orphans have been sheltered and fed consistently throughout the series. War is the only major problem in this manga.

Orphans were not sheltered and fed consistently. Any funds they received were via missions, the feudal lords and war. That is the reason shinobi are well enough off to do what they do. If there's no threat of war due to Sasuke there's no reason for the feudal lords to give the shinobi anything and just pay the police and the villages. Whether i'm right or wrong about this part no long matters as you've already made your point and I agree with you. Sasuke will perpetually stop wars and focused efforts towards him.

You must be registered for see images
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top