Sasuke's revenge, isn't it contradictory to the message of the series?

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Well as we all know Sasuke doesn't know the truth about the Uchiha massacre, of course once he does find out he will go straight after Obito and Madara. But if this were to happen, wouldn't this contradict many aspects of what Kishi has been portraying through the series? Kakashi stated back in part 1 'that the path of revenge only ends badly'. But if Sasuke kills Obito or seals Madara then the purpose of that line would be defeated. Kishi has portrayed many times that revenge is not the answer to anything and only ends up in a horrid life, So wouldn't Sasuke getting revenge for the Uchiha contradict Kishi's ideals?
 

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Well yes but who says he beats either of them.

And I still think that the actions he performed while seeking revenge will eventually catch up to him.
 

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Well as we all know Sasuke doesn't know the truth about the Uchiha massacre, of course once he does find out he will go straight after Obito and Madara. But if this were to happen, wouldn't this contradict many aspects of what Kishi has been portraying through the series? Kakashi stated back in part 1 'that the path of revenge only ends badly'. But if Sasuke kills Obito or seals Madara then the purpose of that line would be defeated. Kishi has portrayed many times that revenge is not the answer to anything and only ends up in a horrid life, So wouldn't Sasuke getting revenge for the Uchiha contradict Kishi's ideals?

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In a way, Kishimoto is trapping himself in a corner like he did with Tobi's Identity. Madara and Obito are the Two Main Villains of the whole series. Madara is essentially the cause of everything that went wrong in Konoha and basically the Ninja System. He is the flaw of the Ninja System personified. Obito is the reason for everything wrong in Naruto and Sasuke's lives so it only makes sense that Naruto/Sasuke will defeat him. But revenge is bad so either Minato will take the burden or Obito will redeem himself or somehow commit suicide.
 

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Well as we all know Sasuke doesn't know the truth about the Uchiha massacre, of course once he does find out he will go straight after Obito and Madara. But if this were to happen, wouldn't this contradict many aspects of what Kishi has been portraying through the series? Kakashi stated back in part 1 'that the path of revenge only ends badly'. But if Sasuke kills Obito or seals Madara then the purpose of that line would be defeated. Kishi has portrayed many times that revenge is not the answer to anything and only ends up in a horrid life, So wouldn't Sasuke getting revenge for the Uchiha contradict Kishi's ideals?

Yeah... pretty much, but it's not the first time Kishi kinda shits on his own words. (through Kakashi)



Shikamaru, Ino and Choji going after Hidan and Kakuzu was pretty much purely for revenge. Kakashi himself even helped them.

Sure, why not take Akatsuki down when you have the opportunity to do so??? But it was the same for Sasuke.... he wanted to get stronger to take Itachi down, who was with Nagato the strongest member of Akatsuki (not counting Obito here).

Kakashi was only spitting pretty words to make Sasuke stay with them, it was pretty much out of selfishness rather than pure common sense.



Sasuke getting stronger meant that he was going to kill a huge ''threat'' (yet fake of course) to the shinobi world.



I just think that the message was meant to foreshadow Sasuke's downfall due to the revelation of Itachi's truth.... as lets be honest, in this very case, going after revenge only lead to a nightmare for Sasuke.
 

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Well I think the idea was supposed to be that Itachi and the Hokage's words stopped Sasuke before fully going through with his attack on the leaf. Remember, that is also part of his revenge. Personally I think it would have been better off if Sasuke actually ended up killing Karin.. rather than simply injure her only to end up with her forgiveness.
 

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In a way, Kishimoto is trapping himself in a corner like he did with Tobi's Identity. Madara and Obito are the Two Main Villains of the whole series. Madara is essentially the cause of everything that went wrong in Konoha and basically the Ninja System. He is the flaw of the Ninja System personified. Obito is the reason for everything wrong in Naruto and Sasuke's lives so it only makes sense that Naruto/Sasuke will defeat him. But revenge is bad so either Minato will take the burden or Obito will redeem himself or somehow commit suicide.

Unless Naruto defeats Obito the same way he defeated the deva path.
 

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It brings maturity and a different perspective to an otherwise, completely childish Manga.
 

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Which is why Sasuke will not becomethe Hokage*_*Obviously a joke, please don't take this post seriously.
 

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Sasuke won't be hokage.

BELIEVE IT
 
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