Sasukes' Remorse [And other thoughts]

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I just finished reading 414 and it brought to mind some interesting thoughts.
Before Sasuke activates his MS, Sasuke thinks of the many companions he's had over the course of the series.
After said event, he activates Amaterasu.
Could it be that Sasuke is finally feeling BAD about his actions up to this point?
Is he feeling bad for leaving Konoha and Team 7?
Could it be that he's feeling bad for not caring for his comrades [Juugo, Karin, ect.]
After seeing each one of them sacrifice themselves for him, do you think Sasuke now feels bad for not showing them anything in return?
Do you think this could be a possible turning point for Sasuke?
Could he come back to Konoha?
Can he break away from Madaras' hold before it's to late?
All these questions were raised after that last page.
Some other questions were who were those other two Cloud ninja?
One of them looked like Hachibis' brother/relative.
Also, is Suigetsu dead?
After taking such a monstrous blast, I don't think anyone could survive that.
One other thing I was wondering is why did Juugo revert to a childish form?
Was his curse seal making him an adult?
I just don't get it.
And how much chakra exactly did Juugo give Sasuke?
He was able to activate Amaterasu after being, basically dead a few moments before, and we all know how much chakra it takes to activate Amaterasu, let alone MS.
Another question, just HOW strong is Hachibi?
Karin said his chakra was unreal or something like that.
And she's felt some powerful foes [Itachi, Kisame ect.] so I was wondering just how EXACTLY powerful is he?
At this point, he's looking virtually unbeatable.
That's basically it, discuss and reply.
 

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wow, that's a lot of questions lol but i'll just pick one and answer to start things off.

Could it be that Sasuke is finally feeling BAD about his actions up to this point?
i think he is realizing what it means to be a team.
 

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Yeah a lot of questions.
Sasuke finally knows what it means to be a team player. It dosen't mean do it by yourself. And I don't think Sasuke will go back to Konoha. He'll try to deystroy it eventaully, and Naruto will defend it.
 

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my 2 cents

well it said on the last page "looking back, he wasn't alone"
Sasuke always felt alone and didn't really care for anything except killing Itachi.
and now that every member of team hawk is trying to protect him, he finally realized he was being a selfish little brat ever since he was with team 7...so now he pulls out amateratsu to finish things quickly, (which he will!!!.no matter how strong that hachibi is, amateratsu will burn that octobull's ass in no time)
and i dont think he will leave akatsuki and return to konoha cuz that would seem to easy 4 me......"uhhm he you guys, sorry bout the electrocuting thing b4... butt uhhhh...lets be friends":D....not happening offcourse^o)
I think Sasuke will be at Madara's side 4 a while and wait till the time is right to back stab his ass:D so he can then rebuild the uchiha clan by, tappin both sakura's and Karin's ass:eek:.....
you know, just to speed things up a little;)
just kiddin but it would be cool:p

but i do think sasuke will rebuild the clan somehow...cuz that was his final goal when he got introduced...first he was gonna kill itachi and then revive the uchiha clan, same thing how naruto want's to become hokage, we know that's gonna happen 4 sure so i dont see no reason why sasuke wouldt make his goal 2????
so sasuke is probably gonna kill madara and then start his own village just like oro...since naruto is following j-man's path and sakura tsunade's, i think sasuke will follow oro's
doesn't this seem logical????
let me knwo waht you guys think.
thnx:)
 

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the battles kind of in a way like a mirror of the battle they had with kakashi early in the manga look kakashi says it himself if u go alone u make ur team vurnable u might as well kill them urselves. the battles proof of that logic sasuke charged in not knowing what the guy was capable of and look how bad the team has suffered. i think he realises what bonds are like again. don't know whats gonna happen next he may or maynot betray madra he may go to konoha to ask about his brother from another point of view. and act after compareing the tow versions he knows. we wont know till the smoke clears.
 

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All your opinions seem valid, but all's I know is that somethings are gonna change DRASTICALLY from this point on.
Like someone else said, Sasuke can't just go back to Konoha and all is forgiven, he's done some fucked up shit worthy of being put in the Bingo Book, BUT if he were to go to Konoha and ward off Peins' coming invasion, would that be enough to redeem Sasuke?
I think so.
Although that's much easier said than done, I wouldn't say it's impossible.
The only problem is Madara, if he caught wind that Sasuke was gonna betray him, there would be some SERIOUS problem for team Hawk.
 

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I don't think helping against pain willl really get him right with konoha, maybe saving an elder like danzou or something or saving tsunade would.
But if he did go against pain then madara would be like WTF?
 

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I don't think helping against pain willl really get him right with konoha, maybe saving an elder like danzou or something or saving tsunade would.
But if he did go against pain then madara would be like WTF?
Yes, but if he opposed Pein and survived and warded off the invasion, surely that would be enough.
I mean what more can you do than save the entire village?
Well, if he had the support of the entire village, I doubt de-thrown-ing Madara would be very difficult.
 

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sasuke may try and double cross maddra pein by trying to stop his invasion. although looking at how powerful pein is i don't think he would be strong enough to go up against a guy who beat hanzo a ninja the sanin couldn't even beat who wiped out an entire village to make sure they was no sympathy. sasuke could slow pein down untill naruto shows up with the hermit arts and battle pein. if maddra finds out if sasuke ever double crosses him he has to deal with a uchia who even at a shadow of his former self is abnormaly powered. maddra needs sasuke 4 a reason sasuke betraying him would put a monkey wrench in his plans.the chapters seem to get more interesting who knows what will happen next?
 

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sasuke may try and double cross maddra pein by trying to stop his invasion. although looking at how powerful pein is i don't think he would be strong enough to go up against a guy who beat hanzo a ninja the sanin couldn't even beat who wiped out an entire village to make sure they was no sympathy. sasuke could slow pein down untill naruto shows up with the hermit arts and battle pein. if maddra finds out if sasuke ever double crosses him he has to deal with a uchia who even at a shadow of his former self is abnormaly powered. maddra needs sasuke 4 a reason sasuke betraying him would put a monkey wrench in his plans.the chapters seem to get more interesting who knows what will happen next?
Yea, Sasuke can't kill Pein, but he sure could slow him down a great deal with his MS.
And if Sasuke manages to kill Konan, maybe Pein will decide to turn back or something, you never know.
 

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I just finished reading 414 and it brought to mind some interesting thoughts.
Before Sasuke activates his MS, Sasuke thinks of the many companions he's had over the course of the series.
After said event, he activates Amaterasu.
Could it be that Sasuke is finally feeling BAD about his actions up to this point?
Is he feeling bad for leaving Konoha and Team 7?
Could it be that he's feeling bad for not caring for his comrades [Juugo, Karin, ect.]
After seeing each one of them sacrifice themselves for him, do you think Sasuke now feels bad for not showing them anything in return?
Do you think this could be a possible turning point for Sasuke?
Could he come back to Konoha?
Can he break away from Madaras' hold before it's to late?
All these questions were raised after that last page.
Some other questions were who were those other two Cloud ninja?
One of them looked like Hachibis' brother/relative.
Also, is Suigetsu dead?
After taking such a monstrous blast, I don't think anyone could survive that.
One other thing I was wondering is why did Juugo revert to a childish form?
Was his curse seal making him an adult?
I just don't get it.
And how much chakra exactly did Juugo give Sasuke?
He was able to activate Amaterasu after being, basically dead a few moments before, and we all know how much chakra it takes to activate Amaterasu, let alone MS.
Another question, just HOW strong is Hachibi?
Karin said his chakra was unreal or something like that.
And she's felt some powerful foes [Itachi, Kisame ect.] so I was wondering just how EXACTLY powerful is he?
At this point, he's looking virtually unbeatable.
That's basically it, discuss and reply.
I agree that Sasuke's somewhat feeling remorse for his actions, but not enough to go back to Konoha; where would the series go from there, anyway. I think suigetsu's on the verge of death. And Juugo... I dont know about him, but he probably lost his curse seal powers, and gave sasuke most, if not all, of his chakra. Sasuke has just enough chakra for Amaterasu; after that, he is so done.

And, in regards to the 8-tails, in the legends, the 8-tails battled the 9-tails on equal footing for hundreds of years without a break. The 8-tails only lost because it doesn't have unlimited chakra, unlike the 9-tails. The 8-tails has incredible amounts of chakra and it's JUST about as powerful as the 9-tails, but not quite.

At this point, it looks like the only one who could defeat the 8-tails is either Madara or the 9-tails, if Amaterasu doesn't knock it out.

Therefore, if the 8-tails is almost as powerful as the 9-tails, it's only possible that Madara will come to the rescue.
 

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I just finished reading 414 and it brought to mind some interesting thoughts.
Before Sasuke activates his MS, Sasuke thinks of the many companions he's had over the course of the series.
After said event, he activates Amaterasu.
1. Could it be that Sasuke is finally feeling BAD about his actions up to this point?
2. Is he feeling bad for leaving Konoha and Team 7?
3. Could it be that he's feeling bad for not caring for his comrades [Juugo, Karin, ect.]
After seeing each one of them sacrifice themselves for him, do you think Sasuke now feels bad for not showing them anything in return?
4. Do you think this could be a possible turning point for Sasuke?
5. Could he come back to Konoha?
6. Can he break away from Madaras' hold before it's to late?
All these questions were raised after that last page.
7. Some other questions were who were those other two Cloud ninja?
One of them looked like Hachibis' brother/relative.
8. Also, is Suigetsu dead?
After taking such a monstrous blast, I don't think anyone could survive that.
9. One other thing I was wondering is why did Juugo revert to a childish form?
Was his curse seal making him an adult?
I just don't get it.
10. And how much chakra exactly did Juugo give Sasuke?
He was able to activate Amaterasu after being, basically dead a few moments before, and we all know how much chakra it takes to activate Amaterasu, let alone MS.
11. Another question, just HOW strong is Hachibi?
Karin said his chakra was unreal or something like that.
And she's felt some powerful foes [Itachi, Kisame ect.] so I was wondering just how EXACTLY powerful is he?
At this point, he's looking virtually unbeatable.
That's basically it, discuss and reply.
I'll try to answer one by one. Here goes:
1-3. Yes and no. I do believe he's feeling some type of way about his actions up until this point in the manga, but I'd say he's had an epiphany rather than a bad feeling.

4. Yes, I think that this'll be a definite turning point for Sasuke. You have to consider that like Naruto, Sasuke is still technically considered a genin. Sure he may fight with Jonin level skills but his techniques and battle plans are poorly used and brash. Frequently depending on raw power and confidence to no ends rather than plan a proper battle strategy like some one like Shikamara, Neji, or even Shino would do. If you think about it he's become the emo version of Naruto thrusting himself into battle w/o thinking.

5. No. Not now. Not no time soon.

6. I do think that while Sasuke is quite naive, he's doesn't fully trust Madara/Tobi. I'm sure that he knows like we the readers know that Itachi would not have put a fail safe in his eye to keep Madara away for $h!ts and giggles.

7. One of em did bear an uncanny resemblance to the Great Killer Bee.

8. I don't think Suigetsu is dead but I do think that he's on his death bed at the moment. Kishi said that someone from Hawk would die in this battle and I don't see it being Suigetsu simply because he's a far more interesting character than Juugo. Too much that you don't yet know about the guy.

9. Can't answer that one.

10. I'd say an @ssload.

11. I think its fairly obvious that Hachibi is RIDICULOUSLY powerful. Think about it Gaara with one tail was enough to become Sunakage of his village and ward of Deidara who definitely was far from a slouch. Naruto with 4tails is almost too powerful for Yamato to control and could've easily raped Orochimaru a 1,000 times over. Hell at 3tails he almost killed the J-man. So I'd say pretty f'n strong.
 

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yea..i dun think sasuke will be remorseful to return to konoha..but my bet is tt in the future he will be remorseful enough to go check out Naruto fight Pein(if it is delayed) or with madara and help naruto out...Or maybe Madara will bring sasuke along to fight Naruto.then sasuke will backstab madara..

As for the questions...The eighth tails has got to be damn strong or else why is it called the eighth tails anw?Imagine Karin looking at naruto next time.LOL.unlimited chakra
 

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gud point i don't really know waht will hapen possibly saskue will realase "the wind tunnel" and suc kteh bijuu ot and implant it in him who knows ?
 

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I'll try to answer one by one. Here goes:
1-3. Yes and no. I do believe he's feeling some type of way about his actions up until this point in the manga, but I'd say he's had an epiphany rather than a bad feeling.

4. Yes, I think that this'll be a definite turning point for Sasuke. You have to consider that like Naruto, Sasuke is still technically considered a genin. Sure he may fight with Jonin level skills but his techniques and battle plans are poorly used and brash. Frequently depending on raw power and confidence to no ends rather than plan a proper battle strategy like some one like Shikamara, Neji, or even Shino would do. If you think about it he's become the emo version of Naruto thrusting himself into battle w/o thinking.

5. No. Not now. Not no time soon.

6. I do think that while Sasuke is quite naive, he's doesn't fully trust Madara/Tobi. I'm sure that he knows like we the readers know that Itachi would not have put a fail safe in his eye to keep Madara away for $h!ts and giggles.

7. One of em did bear an uncanny resemblance to the Great Killer Bee.

8. I don't think Suigetsu is dead but I do think that he's on his death bed at the moment. Kishi said that someone from Hawk would die in this battle and I don't see it being Suigetsu simply because he's a far more interesting character than Juugo. Too much that you don't yet know about the guy.

9. Can't answer that one.

10. I'd say an @ssload.

11. I think its fairly obvious that Hachibi is RIDICULOUSLY powerful. Think about it Gaara with one tail was enough to become Sunakage of his village and ward of Deidara who definitely was far from a slouch. Naruto with 4tails is almost too powerful for Yamato to control and could've easily raped Orochimaru a 1,000 times over. Hell at 3tails he almost killed the J-man. So I'd say pretty f'n strong.
Yes, definitely very true.
I love how you described Sasuke's feelings as an ''Epiphany'', it's the perfect word to describe his feelings right now.
One thing though, I don't think Suigetsu is gonna survive.
We know all we need to know about him, it's not like he's a very deep character.
He was apprentice of Zabuza, he was probably captured [Considering he is a missing-nin] and imprisoned in the jar thing.
There's no other way to really imprison him because he can turn himself into water.
Now that he has teamed up with Sasuke he's using him to obtain the 7 swords of the Seven Swordsman of the Mist.
I don't think there's much more to him then that.
 
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I just finished reading 414 and it brought to mind some interesting thoughts.
Before Sasuke activates his MS, Sasuke thinks of the many companions he's had over the course of the series.
After said event, he activates Amaterasu.
Could it be that Sasuke is finally feeling BAD about his actions up to this point?
Is he feeling bad for leaving Konoha and Team 7?
Could it be that he's feeling bad for not caring for his comrades [Juugo, Karin, ect.]
After seeing each one of them sacrifice themselves for him, do you think Sasuke now feels bad for not showing them anything in return?
Do you think this could be a possible turning point for Sasuke?
Could he come back to Konoha?
Can he break away from Madaras' hold before it's to late?
All these questions were raised after that last page.
Some other questions were who were those other two Cloud ninja?
One of them looked like Hachibis' brother/relative.
Also, is Suigetsu dead?
After taking such a monstrous blast, I don't think anyone could survive that.
One other thing I was wondering is why did Juugo revert to a childish form?
Was his curse seal making him an adult?
I just don't get it.
And how much chakra exactly did Juugo give Sasuke?
He was able to activate Amaterasu after being, basically dead a few moments before, and we all know how much chakra it takes to activate Amaterasu, let alone MS.
Another question, just HOW strong is Hachibi?
Karin said his chakra was unreal or something like that.
And she's felt some powerful foes [Itachi, Kisame ect.] so I was wondering just how EXACTLY powerful is he?
At this point, he's looking virtually unbeatable.
That's basically it, discuss and reply.
too many questions head hurt now
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