Sasuke's PS misconception

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Yes, but without Nardo's sage mode that sword would have done diddly squat.

Your move shelke, your move....

Sasuke could have used Juugo as well for Natural Energy. No biggie.

Oh wait - he's already there - .
 

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read chapter 652 without the bijuu chakra there wouldnt be a final blow, without sennin chakra there would be any damage get over it.

Bijuu Chakra had been so effective. Silly me.
 

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Sasuke could have used Juugo as well for Natural Energy. No biggie.

Oh wait - he's already there - .

Yet he wasn't providing any noticeable nature energy... So no it wouldn't have worked. Also, as someone pointed out above, without the other bijuu chakra, Juubito would just have a slash in him that merely would have regenerated instantly. In the end Sausage would have cut riikubito but it would have just healed itself, and the bijuu chakra would still be inside him. Thus Sausage really didn't do shit all now did he.
 

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The power of bromance > Juubi Jin Obito.
 

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Sasuke did support Naruto. He still would have the sword without Naruto; it just wouldn't have natural energy augmenting it.
 

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It was a teamwork, a teamwork Sasuke was a part of (so don't discredit the character, that's what author gave him it is not like he has his own mind) for now we can't say much about sword's destructive power; since the sword literally pulled out of ass at that very chapter and we can't compare it to Madara's destruction feat much, atleast i can't since i don't even know what the f@ck the attiributes of that sword suppose to be and what it is compared to what Madara destroyed or whether can Madara do the same at same conditions (he probably can though).

And Sasuke has PS now; kyuubi chakra does not give shinobies things they don't own (Hinata's airpalms, Ino's shintenshin, Lee's kick, Kakashi's kamui etc. they all had the techniques they just got more powerful / faster etc.; Sasuke is able to stabilize PS on his own kyuubi chakra or not)

But does it really matter? He is bound to surpass Madara anyway all haters and fanboys can calm their tits about this, this fictional character is obligated to reach that certain level cuz the author said so.
 

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Yet he wasn't providing any noticeable nature energy... So no it wouldn't have worked. Also, as someone pointed out above, without the other bijuu chakra, Juubito would just have a slash in him that merely would have regenerated instantly. In the end Sausage would have cut riikubito but it would have just healed itself, and the bijuu chakra would still be inside him. Thus Sausage really didn't do shit all now did he.

Considering that Juugo can gorge on Natural Energy as much as he wants - THIS ability was used by Kabuto for DSM - your point doesn't hold any weight. Kishimoto wanted to show bro-mance. It doesn't mean Sasuke cannot accomplish this on his own. Bijuu Chakra wouldn't do squat like before. As I said; no proof. Naruto didn't even pull Chakra out on his own. Lol

Anyhow, no mood to argue on this as it's not debatable.
 

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It was a teamwork, a teamwork Sasuke was a part of (so don't discredit the character, that's what author gave him it is not like he has his own mind) for now we can't say much about sword's destructive power; since the sword literally pulled out of ass at that very chapter and we can't compare it to Madara's destruction feat much, atleast i can't since i don't even know what the f@ck the attiributes of that sword suppose to be and what it is compared to what Madara destroyed or whether can Madara do the same at same conditions (he probably can though).

And Sasuke has PS now; kyuubi chakra does not give shinobies things they don't own (Hinata's airpalms, Ino's shintenshin, Lee's kick, Kakashi's kamui etc. they all had the techniques they just got more powerful / faster etc.; Sasuke is able to stabilize PS on his own kyuubi chakra or not)

But does it really matter? He is bound to surpass Madara anyway all haters and fanboys can calm their tits about this, this fictional character is obligated to reach that certain level cuz the author said so.
i jurked off to dis post.bambaclart!
 

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Considering that Juugo can gorge on Natural Energy as much as he wants - THIS ability was used by Kabuto for DSM - your point doesn't hold any weight. Kishimoto wanted to show bro-mance. It doesn't mean Sasuke cannot accomplish this on his own. Bijuu Chakra wouldn't do squat like before. As I said; no proof. Naruto didn't even pull Chakra out on his own. Lol

Anyhow, no mood to argue on this as it's not debatable.

so how would sasuke weaken the juubito without the bijuu chakra? its clearly shown thats its the bijuu chakra thats being pulled out is weaken obito. and once again its juugo ability not sasuke and its not shown that juugo even cover sasuke with senjutsu anymore. sasuke cant accomplish on his OWN because he doesnt possess senjustu for him self.
 

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^ Read my post again. Naruto didn't pull it out on his own, Sasuke and others helped. We are talking about the final blow; don't veer the discussion. Juugo is capable of absorbing Natural Energy to his heart's content. I already mentioned that. Naruto isn't even needed for the blow.
 

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I dont know why ppl are praising sasuke's PS, when technically naruto did most of the work when it came to crushing nonobuko. Its not sasuke who is shown as the weilder of the sword, that role was given to naruto, sasuke just looks like he is support for naruto. Also when the two swords clashed it was naruto and obito who overlapped, sasuke was just a spectator.
I'll give credit to sasuke for his PS, but the sword is certainly not soley his, and thus ppl should stop saying that sasuke's PS sword has greater destructive ability or equal to madara's. Remember this was sasuke and naruto's sword.
Face it, sasuke is just a naruto power up.

Lol? So did naruto make the sword? So i guess sasuke

Naruto can't use or control PS, what kind of person even thinks this makes sense? Clearly naruto moved his hand to lunge the kyuubi avatar while sasuke moved his to lunge the susano'o sword. That's not even hard to understand.

Sasuke has the same version of Susanoo that Madara used against Kages.

this... Don't know why people are too stupid to understand such a simple concept.
 

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so how would sasuke weaken the juubito without the bijuu chakra? its clearly shown thats its the bijuu chakra thats being pulled out is weaken obito. and once again its juugo ability not sasuke and its not shown that juugo even cover sasuke with senjutsu anymore. sasuke cant accomplish on his OWN because he doesnt possess senjustu for him self.
That's not the point though; Sasuke's power should be more like "converted", not upgraded.
For ex. when you convert image's format (for ex. from tiff to jpg etc), its contents would not change but its attiributes would allow the image to be used in different platforms.
 

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^ Read my post again. Naruto didn't pull it out on his own, Sasuke and others helped. We are talking about the final blow; don't veer the discussion. Juugo is capable of absorbing Natural Energy to his heart's content. I already mentioned that. Naruto isn't even needed for the blow.

They can hit him, but they could never have pulled the chakra out. Like I said before, instant regeneration would have just pasted him back together... The difference between Naruto helping, and him not helping is the bijuu chakra coming out of Obito, and it not coming out. So you decide which is better.
 

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Sasuke's Susanoo is too tiny to be called a PS
 

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^ Read my post again. Naruto didn't pull it out on his own, Sasuke and others helped. We are talking about the final blow; don't veer the discussion. Juugo is capable of absorbing Natural Energy to his heart's content. I already mentioned that. Naruto isn't even needed for the blow.

your pretty foolish you know? sasuke cant pull a bijuu because he never had one gaara had to pull the shukaku, everyone else pull becuase they are a extension of kurama chakra which naruto streamed to them, the only reason there is even any pulling going on is the bijuu gave naruto the chakra not anyone else overall sasuke was the one not need for the final blow.
 

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Sasuke was the one who cut through Obito
 

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Sasuke is there to power up naruto? What BS.
In fact,Naruto himself admits that his sole purpose of existence is to power up sasuke :

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On your face, OP.
Suck it.
 

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your pretty foolish you know? sasuke cant pull a bijuu because he never had one gaara had to pull the shukaku, everyone else pull becuase they are a extension of kurama chakra which naruto streamed to them, the only reason there is even any pulling going on is the bijuu gave naruto the chakra not anyone else overall sasuke was the one not need for the final blow.

It's 'You're pretty foolish' not 'Your pretty foolish.' Let's put this irony aside for a moment and let's see: What the hell didn't you get about my post? Naruto isn't needed for the final blow. What is there NOT to understand about this seemingly simple point?

They can hit him, but they could never have pulled the chakra out. Like I said before, instant regeneration would have just pasted him back together... The difference between Naruto helping, and him not helping is the bijuu chakra coming out of Obito, and it not coming out. So you decide which is better.

And what are you not getting about my post? Seriously, I don't get it.
 

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this thread is full of lies and BS.

since when did naruto have a PS

since when did naruto no how to weild susanno?


You trolls will post anything to make yourself feel better

It was a combined of both Naruto and Sasuke's power but it had more to do with Naruto since he was able to read Obit's mind/heart and It was Sasuke who first told Naruto that when 2 top notch ninjas clash, they can read each other's minds. Obito's will wasn't as strong as it was before because he was starting to regret everything. Since the PS is on BSM like an armor, it could be seen as Naruto using the sword but the sword is just a tool and had no power in the outcome since it's the user of the sword who can make the outcome what it was.

Ex: You are a master swordmen with a normal sword while I and just skilled with a more stronger sword. You would beat me not do to having a better weapon but knowing how to use it. Now I'm not saying Naruto is a master swordmen and Sasuke not but that the user of the Sword has more to di with it.


how ? thats all i ask how does naruto no how to manifest a sword like that? cause only sasuke can according to this manga that was his power sussano is the power that changed sasukes PS covered the kyubbi just like madaras yet we have doubts and haters? naruto has never once made a sword sasuke makes swords like hes a god dam blacksmith yet it was narutos sword? nooooo it was sasukes its not enough that it was naruto who broke the sheild? and its narutos chakara that is having a tug of war with obitos? sasuke landeded the fatal blow with his sussano blade

The sword was just a tool that BSM used tho, a sword is just a sword, it's the user of the sword that decides the victor. Both Sasuke and Naruto attack together but Naruto being the user of the PS sword is the one who allowed the Sage's sword to break as I explained above ^^

Without Sasuke, Naruto would not have been successful in pulling out the Chakra. It was PS's sword that dealt the final blow. Get over it, people. PS covered BSM, just like Madara's PS shielded Kurama.

Yes but the Sword was simply a tool used, it's the one who uses the tool who cause the outcome in this situation. The Sword was just a sword, like PS was an armor which BSM used. Both had a part to play and Sasuke was providing a tool which BSM can use. Remember how Naruto and Sasuke clash and could read each other's minds? Sasuke said when 2 top notch ninjas clash that they can read each other minds and it was Naruto and Obito who clashed. It wasn't all Naruto, Sasuke provide a tool to use so it was both of them but Naruto was the user of the sword. ( Where Sasuke said top class ninja clashing)

Since when does BM manifest swords? Get over it. It was Sasuke's. I don't see what's so bad about Sasuke supposedly being a powerup for Naruto. Wasn't the fanbase overjoyed when Naruto was powering people up? They are powering up each other. Thought that was obvious. As for Naruto doing most of the work, that is obviously false. They both put in equal effort as without either of them this would not have happened.

Yeah, they both parted a part. Sasuke provide Naruto with a tool (Sword) to use as I explained above^^

Bijuu Chakra had been so effective. Silly me.

Well the first time Kakashi got some of Kurama's chakra his Kamui power increased at least 3x as much, When Naruto gave everyone chakra we see Kakashi saying it was much stronger so that's like 4x-6x the power increase, then Yin-Yang Kurama chakra that Naruto and Minato gave was even stronger so that's like 7x-10x the power increase and BSM in even more than that due to SM increasing BM power so it was really helpful.


Yet he wasn't providing any noticeable nature energy... So no it wouldn't have worked. Also, as someone pointed out above, without the other bijuu chakra, Juubito would just have a slash in him that merely would have regenerated instantly. In the end Sausage would have cut riikubito but it would have just healed itself, and the bijuu chakra would still be inside him. Thus Sausage really didn't do shit all now did he.

Both Naruto and Sasuke played a part, Sasuke gave Naruto a tool to use as I explain more in detail above ^^^
 
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