Sasuke's Plan: It isn't Over Yet

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Sasuke isn't happy with the ninja world the way it is. We see that in this panel below.

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He said it himself. He's not out to just become Hokage. He isn't out to fight on friendly terms with Naruto. This isn't about saving the world. It isn't about right or wrong, or peace or justice. Or the Sage or his little make believe world of "peace" or "ninshuu".

Sasuke intends to destroy the current ninja system entirely He states as much in this chapter. He was going to kill the TBs. All of them. Kurama, Juubi, the whole 9 yards. My guess is he's going to go heel really soon. We're going to get some Madara dialogue of why he did it. As Madara alluded, the Sage was hiding something. The world he created is objectively speaking a failure. He watched his own sons fight for thousands of years. Millions of people died. BZ ran free. Kaguya keeps becoming sealed for next time. Hamura was sealed as well. The Sage is playing God and ninja are trapped in the middle.

Sage is the good guy? Don't make me laugh, he's some despot with a god complex that's mad with power. Naruto's just one more naive little knucklehead in an orange jumpsuit that's deluded by the big man with purple eyes. Sasuke sees through the BS.

The prophecy also hasn't come to pass yet, that being the Great Toad Sage's prophecy. Naruto has not yet fought Sasuke, the boy with strange eyes. The Sage knew what Rinnegan was, but he had no freaking clue what Sasuke's eyes were. So it all fits.

Sasuke will 'betray' the alliance and later explain he realized after meeting the Sage, that the Sage was a total fraud and a liar. He'll kill Kurama and seal the Sage to make his point. As for Madara, even without Hashirama in his chest he still has Rinnegan and likely still has Mokuton. If Madara gets back up its bad for the alliance. Last time he took the TB down easily. If the Sage is sealed, Madara is back up and Sasuke goes rogue, even Naruto will have his hands full stopping him. Plus Orochimarus hows up and overwrites Tobirama, Minato and Hiruzen.

Sasuke didn't change his mind about Hashirama's history lesson. He decided the real problem is the entire god damn ninja system, and he's going to BURN IT DOWN. Thoughts? My guess: Sauce's first action is to use the tools to seal Hagoromo. Oro's team takes out TenTen and gets the gourd. In goes Sagey. Then Sauce kills Kurama right in front of Naruto. He explains calmly he intends to end the ninja system by becoming Hokage, and his first order is to abolish Konoha and the village system.

A stunned Hashirama sits there while Sasuke mockingly thanks him for the history lesson. Madara gets up and is shown smirking in the background as Kurama screams in agony and burns into a cinder. Naruto looks on in anger and starts crying when he realizes Kurama is dead.
 
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I wasted my time reading this. That's my thoughts.
 

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I wasted my time reading this. That's my thoughts.

You have no comment on what Sasuke means by "end this twisted system"? Surely you don't think the Juubi is what he means by the ninja system, right?
 

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So, basically, everything sucks, life is worthless, and Obito and Madara were basically right? Okay, cool story bro. Btw, the boy with the strange eyes could have been Obito, think about it, his eyes were truly strange, even among Uchiha, his eyes were unique.
 

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It's not going to happen, Sasuke does not have a problem with the beasts anymore, he was only concerned about the juubi, nothing more. People should be more concerned about Rikudo or the seal loosening on kags rather than something that's not going to happen.
 

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kool......XD
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Sasuke and Madara Next Chapter.
 
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It's not going to happen, Sasuke does not have a problem with the beasts anymore, he was only concerned about the juubi, nothing more. People should be more concerned about Rikudo or the seal loosening on kags rather than something that's not going to happen.

Ok then why did he reject the frog telling him to not hurt the TB inside Juubi? Sasuke didn't care. He doesn't say burn the Juubi down, he says he will end "this twisted system" after having just heard about the ninja system from Hashirama. Even Sai and Shikamaru think this guy is up to no good. Foreshadowing is hinting at a quick Sasuke reversal here IMO.
 

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On the one hand, that would seem like natural story progression if Kishi were to throw in one final twist / villain into the mix.

On the other hand, do we really need another f*cking plot twist / villain thrown into the mix?

EDIT: Also, as a side note: I disagree with you on the prophecy. I firmly believe that the Toad was talking about Obito, and not Sasuke.
 

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So, basically, everything sucks, life is worthless, and Obito and Madara were basically right? Okay, cool story bro. Btw, the boy with the strange eyes could have been Obito, think about it, his eyes were truly strange, even among Uchiha, his eyes were unique.

Obito was in his late 20s, and not a boy. The literal translation of Frog Dude's prophecy was the Japanese word for young man, danshi. It's never applied to someone as old as Obito... Trust me I lived in Japan long enough to know that much. Prophecy is of Naruto v. Sasuke.
 

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can't wait until the chapter is released, we'll see whether or not this becomes true, it will be an interesting plot twist.
 
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I think it will be sasuke joining madara so you are right on that part. But personally i think kakashi can match out with madara and evenly now. He has both sharingans over a 1000 jutsus and he has some of the SOSP Chakra. We havent seen what his susanoe is fully capable of. It probably cannot get hit and kakashi is smater than obito . Naruto&Kakashi can handle Sasuke Madara Orochimaru and Hokages. Naruto Clones are on the hokages level
 

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I think it will be sasuke joining madara so you are right on that part. But personally i think kakashi can match out with madara and evenly now. He has both sharingans over a 1000 jutsus and he has some of the SOSP Chakra. We havent seen what his susanoe is fully capable of. It probably cannot get hit and kakashi is smater than obito . Naruto&Kakashi can handle Sasuke Madara Orochimaru and Hokages. Naruto Clones are on the hokages level

Very Interesting.
 

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Ok then why did he reject the frog telling him to not hurt the TB inside Juubi? Sasuke didn't care. He doesn't say burn the Juubi down, he says he will end "this twisted system" after having just heard about the ninja system from Hashirama. Even Sai and Shikamaru think this guy is up to no good. Foreshadowing is hinting at a quick Sasuke reversal here IMO.

He rejected Naruto telling him to not hurt the beasts inside, but Sasuke saw that as an unacceptable approach and did things his way, in which was acceptable because the juubi was a problem, and burning them all down would have saved the alliance a lot of deaths, but unfortunately the juubi grew too powerful.

Sai and Shikimaru thought that when he first arrived, but naruto and he have been working through this the entire time, and through near death they both kicked ass with their spiritual powers half unlocked (we have yet to see ashura mode, and yet to see Sasuke's second Rinnigan, and the indra susanoo), so nothing suggests here that Sasuke wants to kill naruto, if anything, the sage is the most suspicious right now and so is kags for being defeated too easily.
 

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You have no comment on what Sasuke means by "end this twisted system"? Surely you don't think the Juubi is what he means by the ninja system, right?

Sasuke wants to change the system that allowed people who died for their village to be labeled as criminals, like with Itachi, which is what he decided after speaking to Hashirama. The Tailed Beasts have had their role as weapons in numerous battles and wars. Sasuke was going to burn the Juubi and get rid of them altogether. To Sasuke, he can only see the Tailed Beasts as weapons, just like everyone else who has never been a Jinchuriki and actually spoken to a Tailed Beast.

The Sage sealed Kaguya along with Hamura to save the world from the Infinite Tsukuyomi. He then traveled the world sharing his beliefs and giving people chakra, with the intent of them using it to better connect with one another. It's not his fault people weaponized it. Nor was it a part of his plan.

I'm interested in where it was stated the Sage "didn't know what Sasuke's eyes were." It's already been confirmed by Kishimoto Naruto and Sasuke will have one last final battle. That confirms the prophecy from the Toad Sage.

Madara cannot put forth any worthwhile fight at this point. He's lost Hashirama's face and his Sage Mode, as well as the Juubi.

Orochimaru has stated multiple times now he has no leanings or interests in destruction anymore. He said it to the Hokage, he said it to Tsunade. How many more times must he repeat himself before you guys understand he won't be a final villain or turn evil again?

Let's also not forget Naruto is able to sense ill feelings or evil intent with his Kyuubi Chakra Mode. If Sasuke or Orochimaru truly were planning to do something, they wouldn't be able to hide it from Naruto...
 

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I'm all for Sasuke betraying (or atleast following his own path) as long as there is SOME space in between.

I mean, if he goes evil (or rogue or whatever) RIGHT NOW, it's just too much. I mean this whole cluster of fighting the war, jubito, Judara, Kaguya.... It's just one right after the other..... let there be a little down time. A falling action that can lead into this final Arc.
 

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Sasuke isn't afraid of reevaluating his plans since he learned greater truths about BZ and from the Sage his plans change every time he has these talks
 

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Sasuke wants to change the system that allowed people who died for their village to be labeled as criminals, like with Itachi, which is what he decided after speaking to Hashirama. The Tailed Beasts have had their role as weapons in numerous battles and wars. Sasuke was going to burn the Juubi and get rid of them altogether. To Sasuke, he can only see the Tailed Beasts as weapons, just like everyone else who has never been a Jinchuriki and actually spoken to a Tailed Beast.

The Sage sealed Kaguya along with Hamura to save the world from the Infinite Tsukuyomi. He then traveled the world sharing his beliefs and giving people chakra, with the intent of them using it to better connect with one another. It's not his fault people weaponized it. Nor was it a part of his plan.

I'm interested in where it was stated the Sage "didn't know what Sasuke's eyes were." It's already been confirmed by Kishimoto Naruto and Sasuke will have one last final battle. That confirms the prophecy from the Toad Sage.

Madara cannot put forth any worthwhile fight at this point. He's lost Hashirama's face and his Sage Mode, as well as the Juubi.

Orochimaru has stated multiple times now he has no leanings or interests in destruction anymore. He said it to the Hokage, he said it to Tsunade. How many more times must he repeat himself before you guys understand he won't be a final villain or turn evil again?

Let's also not forget Naruto is able to sense ill feelings or evil intent with his Kyuubi Chakra Mode. If Sasuke or Orochimaru truly were planning to do something, they wouldn't be able to hide it from Naruto...

Any action that sasuke carry out right now won't be ill feelings or evil intent. Madara is the biggest example, he making IT happen wasn't evil or anything at all. He was simply pursuing the greater good that he thought was right. So for naruto to sense it is straight up saying he is god and he judging what is right or wrong.
 
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