Sasuke's Plan is Logically Just

[raziel777]

I didn't pin them on Naruto,I said their sacrifices were all to help Naruto achieve peace and unity of the shinobi world.

They chose to fight and die, they weren't killed by the peace seeking guys. Sasuke is supposed to be the Love and Peace guy, he's doing nothing that can bring him that currently

 

[saw2097]

dats why we r waiting to see what he has planned rather than saying dat it will certainly happen

That's exactly what he said he was going to do, execute the Kage and recreate the Shinobi World in his image.

Do you think people will do what he says just because he says it?

 

[Kamui Sama]

Can't you speak English? Besides, he clearly said he intends to execute them, kill them, unless he plans to just give everyone hits of weed later, they'll be against his stupid, selfish plan.

English isn't the first language for everyone

 

[Darth Uchiha]

English isn't the first language for everyone

Except he's not speaking it in a "it's not my first language" way, he's speaking it in a "I'll purposely use moronic speech so no one actually knows what I'm saying" sort of way.

 

[Kamui Sama]

I didn't pin them on Naruto,I said their sacrifices were all to help Naruto achieve peace and unity of the shinobi world.

Except they didn't die in order for Naruto to achieve peace. They died attempting to protect the village and the entire world from utter destruction, Nagato and Obito's methods led to countless deaths and they realized the error of their ways

 

[FleeOnSight]

Still don't understand how people can agree with what sasuke intends to do. Kill those who with a different point of view. NOMINATE myself for the kage position and those in my way die. I'm not seeing the difference between that and kaguyas rule over the people. The immature leveling is through the roof.

I've yet to see someone explain how this will change ANYTHING. Just a bunch of guys defending sasukes way of doing things by saying "he's getting rid of the problem" when in actuality it's ninja like sasuke that are the problem.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Except they didn't die in order for Naruto to achieve peace. They died attempting to protect the village and the entire world from utter destruction, Nagato and Obito's methods led to countless deaths and they realized the error of their ways

Exactly, God, I can't believe these people actually support Sasuke's insane plan. Madara's I would understand, eternal bliss and eternal peace at the cost of really living, that makes for a good debate, chaos and or tyranny with a large probability for future war vs freedom and diplomacy with a chance for longstanding peace, now that's just silly.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Well it's the best thing kishi got in my opinion



I kinda agree, but the system needs to change, by anyway possible

Yes but it is already changing. The shinobi world has formed an alliance. They are all comrades now. Naruto may connect them with ninshuu,as the Sage wanted originally. It didnt work out because of Ashura-Indra rivalry. If anything, I'd say that Naruto and Sasuke will really both die, or Naruto will change Sasuke somehow (even if it seems unlikely now).

Another question is the village system itself. It was formed by Hashirama mainly, in a feudal way. But shinobi fought before that as well. They were hired to fight, and they used ninjutsu for that. So that's why I think that ninjutsu should be replaced by ninshuu, and no need for the current village system. If people are connected, they wont fight. The cycle of hatred will end. But for that, Sasuke has to change too. The kages dont need to be executed. And no need for a dictator. If anything, then there should be democracy and people would elect Naruto as a leader. Then he hands down ninshuu to the next generation...etc...etc. That is, if things go well. But it's just a manga. In real life of course there will always be wars.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Still don't understand how people can agree with what sasuke intends to do. Kill those who with a different point of view. NOMINATE myself for the kage position and those in my way die. I'm not seeing the difference between that and kaguyas rule over the people. The immature leveling is through the roof.

I've yet to see someone explain how this will change ANYTHING. Just a bunch of guys defending sasukes way of doing things by saying "he's getting rid of the problem" when in actuality it's ninja like sasuke that are the problem.

Because most of those hate to see Naruto overcoming Sasuke in a battle of ideals. Naruto's ideas will never work in real world, but this is fiction, and Sasuke's ideas will just backfire.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Because most of those hate to see Naruto overcoming Sasuke in a battle of ideals. Naruto's ideas will never work in real world, but this is fiction, and Sasuke's ideas will just backfire.

Maybe, maybe not, have some hope for humanity, most people are good at heart, they just don't know they can make a difference.

 

[Dannie]

People are still mad that Sasuke is finally doing something different than this narrow minded idiotic theme of peace and happiness which never worked out in the past.

 

[htmwall]

i seriously have no idea how such a plan would work,and how it will change the world by using the same methods that made it so corrupt,kids think sasuke's words about "changing the system" and "revolution" are the coolest thing ever,but they're just empty words.what is this system? and why it is easily corrupted?is it because of people that are in the seats of power or their way of ruling?
i'm more inclined to think that the way of doing things is what made the system corrupted,so much power in the hands of one person and almost no comunication with the people,and sasuke ironically is using the same methods that led to his clan's massacre,the same methods that made the system so corrupt of killing anyone who opposes the way things go,to ensure an uncorruptable system.self-contradictory isn't it?
on the other hand lets see what naruto is doing,he might not be smart enough to come up with a plan that will ensure peace,but he is trying to change people's prespective of the world and their old methods,he's changing the way people think so they can change their own people,he changed gaara who he changed the way suna works, and that's where true revolution resides.the change.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

People are still mad that Sasuke is finally doing something different than this narrow minded idiotic theme of peace and happiness which never worked out in the past.

Ah Christ, it's you. So, tell me, how will slaughtering the world's leaders magically fix everything?

 

[GhostProject]

People are still mad that Sasuke is finally doing something different than this narrow minded idiotic theme of peace and happiness which never worked out in the past.

Sasuke killing the only people that can oppose him so he can be leader of his world isn't exactly a step forward

 

[Lord Tywin]

Maybe, maybe not, have some hope for humanity, most people are good at heart, they just don't know they can make a difference.

That's what Naruto is aiming at. Not just slaughtering everyone who opposes him, and rule with an iron fist. He knows that a hokage should listen to people, and not go bat shit crazy and kill whoever is in his way

 

[Venomous Cobra]

I am back Yeah so where were I ?? Ahhh Yeah what gives sasuke the right to capture the bijuu? ?? Lol

 

[saw2097]

i seriously have no idea how such a plan would work,and how it will change the world by using the same methods that made it so corrupt,kids think sasuke's words about "changing the system" and "revolution" are the coolest thing ever,but they're just empty words.what is this system? and why it is easily corrupted?is it because of people that are in the seats of power or their way of ruling?
i'm more inclined to think that the way of doing things is what made the system corrupted,so much power in the hands of one person and almost no comunication with the people,and sasuke ironically is using the same methods that led to his clan's massacre,the same methods that made the system so corrupt of killing anyone who opposes the way things go,to ensure an uncorruptable system.self-contradictory isn't it?
on the other hand lets see what naruto is doing,he might not be smart enough to come up with a plan that will ensure peace,but he is trying to change people's prespective of the world and their old methods,he's changing the way people think so they can change their own people,he changed gaara who he changed the way suna works, and that's where true revolution resides.the change.

Exactly.

People like Sasuke are the ones who make the world so horrible, Sasuke's ideals are even worse then Danzo's were.

His ideals will inevitably lead to more war and death.

 

[V h o]

Exactly.

People like Sasuke are the ones who make the world so horrible, Sasuke's ideals are even worse then Danzo's were.

His ideals will inevitably lead to more war and death.

Not when Sasuke is the only one left in the world

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Not when Sasuke is the only one left in the world

Which would be horrible.

 

[Dannie]

Ah Christ, it's you. So, tell me, how will slaughtering the world's leaders magically fix everything?

Yeah it's me, so you can get off my d!ck.

If the world leaders are the problem then what of it?. They are crappy leaders anyway.

I don't quite remember it being a problem for the world when Konoha decided to magically erase the Uchiha clan from it's existence, including young children and women who had no opposing power. Of course your moronic excuse will be the "Uchiha rebellion" but it still doesn't explain the fact that they had to kill innocent people who had nothing to do with it. I could also bring up the incident regarding the Hyuga where the Cloud leaders tried to take advantage and steal the Byakugan.

Your position is making it seem as if the current world leaders are saints who actually give a damn about everyone.

Sasuke killing the only people that can oppose him so he can be leader of his world isn't exactly a step forward

And if Sasuke doesn't kill them then they will continue with their horrendous methods that have been occurring for the past few decades.