Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo

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Where in the manga was it stated he had it? I have only seen legged susanno and a legged susanno enhanced by kurama and juugo. I don't believe he has it yet.
 

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He has shown final Susano'o, but not stabilized version of it.

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He has shown final Susano'o, but not stabilized version of it.

So basically he doesn't have it. I thought so. I keep seeing in threads people saying sasuke >naruto because of PS and I thought I missed something
 

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His PS is still on Ten Ten level
 

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He has shown final Susano'o, but not stabilized version of it.

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It's still PS...

look at the nose. he has it.

Did I miss something? Since when was it claimed that only a PS can wrap itself around something? Madara used it on Kurama too, sure. But that doesn't mean that if you wrap the Susanoo around something as armor that your Susanoo is PS. I don't think Sasuke has PS yet, and if he did he hasn't shown/learned how to stabilize it. Furthermore, if he did have it, it wouldn't be the Susanoo we've been seeing, if anything it'd be the Susanoo we saw when Sasuke first broke out of the cave. The one with the Amaterasu integrated into it, and that was probably the unstabilized form.
 

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Did I miss something? Since when was it claimed that only a PS can wrap itself around something? Madara used it on Kurama too, sure. But that doesn't mean that if you wrap the Susanoo around something as armor that your Susanoo is PS. I don't think Sasuke has PS yet, and if he did he hasn't shown/learned how to stabilize it. Furthermore, if he did have it, it wouldn't be the Susanoo we've been seeing, if anything it'd be the Susanoo we saw when Sasuke first broke out of the cave. The one with the Amaterasu integrated into it, and that was probably the unstabilized form.

Do you not see that it looks exactly like Madara's PS? What other proof do you need?
 

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We all know Sasuke is going to get PS either way. But yeah as of now it's not 100% confirmed, just assumed.
 

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Do you not see that it looks exactly like Madara's PS? What other proof do you need?

That really doesn't mean anything, and is a rather weak source of proof. The only person in the entire manga to be shown with a Susanoo around Kurama is Madara. That doesn't mean however that only people with PS can wrap their Susanoo around something. The fact that this is the second Susanoo to be wrapped around Kurama could simply mean that ANY Susanoo that wraps around Kurama will have this design. There simply is no justification to support that Sasuke has PS, especially if the only claim is that he can use his Susanoo as armor like Madara did. If Sasuke had used PS, Madara would have undoubtedly praised Sasuke for his achievement, or made some sort of mental note about Sasuke's PS. Until either Madara or Sasuke explicitly says, "Perfect Susanoo", or something similar in regards to Sasuke's Susanoo, Im convinced that Sasuke does not posses it.
 

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Its not a stable version... So, he doesn't have it
 

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That really doesn't mean anything, and is a rather weak source of proof. The only person in the entire manga to be shown with a Susanoo around Kurama is Madara. That doesn't mean however that only people with PS can wrap their Susanoo around something. The fact that this is the second Susanoo to be wrapped around Kurama could simply mean that ANY Susanoo that wraps around Kurama will have this design. There simply is no justification to support that Sasuke has PS, especially if the only claim is that he can use his Susanoo as armor like Madara did. If Sasuke had used PS, Madara would have undoubtedly praised Sasuke for his achievement, or made some sort of mental note about Sasuke's PS. Until either Madara or Sasuke explicitly says, "Perfect Susanoo", or something similar in regards to Sasuke's Susanoo, Im convinced that Sasuke does not posses it.
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V4 is PS however it's special ability is that the user can wrap the armor around things. The ke aspect of the stabilized version is the Nose and the change in weapons unless someone is is gone tell me that unstabilized v4's weapon is the same as the one Kurama is holding, that armour is PS
 

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its a PS but sasuke's PS is too much smaller than madara's PS because madara's PS covered the whole full kyuubi and sasuke's PS didnt even able to cover half kyuubi

madara's level 4 susanoo > sasuke's PS U_U
 

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That really doesn't mean anything, and is a rather weak source of proof. The only person in the entire manga to be shown with a Susanoo around Kurama is Madara. That doesn't mean however that only people with PS can wrap their Susanoo around something. The fact that this is the second Susanoo to be wrapped around Kurama could simply mean that ANY Susanoo that wraps around Kurama will have this design. There simply is no justification to support that Sasuke has PS, especially if the only claim is that he can use his Susanoo as armor like Madara did. If Sasuke had used PS, Madara would have undoubtedly praised Sasuke for his achievement, or made some sort of mental note about Sasuke's PS. Until either Madara or Sasuke explicitly says, "Perfect Susanoo", or something similar in regards to Sasuke's Susanoo, Im convinced that Sasuke does not posses it.

No, it isn't weak proof. Matter of fact it's pretty solid. Since we have proof the susanoo progresses through stages. What you have is a pure based theory stating that "any susanoo wrapped around Kurama could have that design." Susanoo's design is specific in each stage. One thing you can always go by is the face. Once the face changes, it is a different susanoo. Using the logic now, it would prove that Madara was using PS when he wrapped it around Kurama and so was Sasuke. They weren't using their full form just the modified/incomplete form.

You also say Madara would have acknowledged Sasuke for his achievement. It's funny that he would only praise him for that when he was on the field fighting with a standing complete susanoo, or the fact that he mimicked wrapping Kurama in susanoo as Madara did and still he said nothing. So placing that in your argument is redundant.


Then you say, you need one of them to say something similar in regards to Sasuke's susanoo for you to be convinced??

Get out. :dafq:
 

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Who the hell knows anymore.

It wouldn't shock me one bit if Sausage dived into the power of raging and pulled out a PS engulfed in black flames taller then Madara's PS.
 

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That really doesn't mean anything, and is a rather weak source of proof. The only person in the entire manga to be shown with a Susanoo around Kurama is Madara. That doesn't mean however that only people with PS can wrap their Susanoo around something. The fact that this is the second Susanoo to be wrapped around Kurama could simply mean that ANY Susanoo that wraps around Kurama will have this design. There simply is no justification to support that Sasuke has PS, especially if the only claim is that he can use his Susanoo as armor like Madara did. If Sasuke had used PS, Madara would have undoubtedly praised Sasuke for his achievement, or made some sort of mental note about Sasuke's PS. Until either Madara or Sasuke explicitly says, "Perfect Susanoo", or something similar in regards to Sasuke's Susanoo, Im convinced that Sasuke does not posses it.

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He does have it. There isn't even a minor aesthetic difference between the two. Except for the sword and face, which differ between all Susano'o users, it looks the exact same as Madara's PS. It is the stabilized form. The un-stabilized form is the form he busted out of the cave with and used to fry zetsu. It has the nose, the size, the shoulderpads, everything. Even if you say that not only PS can wrap around Kurama, it is the only form we have seen, and none of Sasuke's other forms of Susano'o look like it. It's common sense. Kishi shouldn't need someone to say something on panel when we can see it with our own eyes.
 

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Sasuke has PS as shown he coated with Naruto's Bijuu mode however its size is significantly smaller than Madara's PS.
 
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