Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o takes the Gauntlet

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Rinnegan Sasukes Ordinary Perfect Susano'o takes the Gauntlet

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1. Madara's Eleven Bladed Bijuudama

2. The Juubi Laser Beam

3. Naruto's Lava Rasenshuriken

4. Rikudo Kurama TBB

5. V2 Juubi TBB

6. Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken

7. Six Bijuudama Rasenshuriken

8. V3 Juubi Full Powered TBB

9. Six Paths Madara's Chou Shinra Tensei

Extra Scenario: Toneri's Moon Slicing Beam

Where does Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o stop or does it clear?
 

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1. Madara's Eleven Bladed Bijuudama

No damage.

2. The Juubi Laser Beam

3. Naruto's Lava Rasenshuriken
No damage.

4. Rikudo Kurama TBB

No damage.

5. V2 Juubi TBB

Wrecked. So he stops here.

6. Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken

No damage.

7. Six Bijuudama Rasenshuriken

Weaker than Naruto's Kurama Bijuu Dama. No damage.

8. V3 Juubi Full Powered TBB

Wrecked.

9. Six Paths Madara's Chou Shinra Tensei

Moderate damage at best.

Toneri's beam probably cuts it in half.

Not to mention this gauntlet's order is messed up. Lol.
 

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^Did I read this right, or you said that 6 BDRS are weaker than Rikudo Kurama's Bijuu Dama?
 

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1. Madara's Eleven Bladed Bijuudama

It survives.

2. The Juubi Laser Beam

It gets nuked

3. Naruto's Lava Rasenshuriken

It survives neg-diff.

4. Rikudo Kurama TBB

It counters with Susanoo Chidori

5. V2 Juubi TBB

It gets nuked.

6. Sage Art: Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken

The Susanoo gets destroyed but Sasuke survives

7. Six Bijuudama Rasenshuriken

Same as above, but sasuke is heavily injured.

8. V3 Juubi Full Powered TBB

Nuked.

9. Six Paths Madara's Chou Shinra Tensei

It counters it with another ST.

Extra Scenario: Toneri's Moon Slicing Beam

It counters it.
 

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^Did I read this right, or you said that 6 BDRS are weaker than Rikudo Kurama's Bijuu Dama?

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That explosion is larger than all 6 of those combined. On par or only slightly weaker at least.

EDIT: But then again, that explosion is PS Chidori and Bijuu Dama, so ignore this post. Lol. Sasuke takes moderate damage from the barrage.
 
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That explosion is larger than all 6 of those combined. On par or only slightly weaker at least.

From the fact that hashirama and madara statues are little taller than the vote depth ,so now you can compare something like vote statue to the explosion ,naruto ttb is nowhere to single TTBRS let alone the six of them
 

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It survives.



It gets nuked



It survives neg-diff.



It counters with Susanoo Chidori



It gets nuked.



The Susanoo gets destroyed but Sasuke survives



Same as above, but sasuke is heavily injured.



Nuked.



It counters it with another ST.



It counters it.

Lol, dafuq? Gets nuked by the Juubl's Laser despite BM Naruto surviving it? Took a combination of PS Chidori and Bijuu Dama yet it gets nuked by 9 Bijuu FRS?
 

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From the fact that hashirama and madara statues are little taller than the vote depth ,so now you can compare something like vote statue to the explosion ,naruto ttb is nowhere to single TTBRS let alone the six of them

Lol, get that shit out of here. Your post doesn't even begin to explain how you're reasoning makes sense. Comparing the surrounding Mountains to each explosion is enough to tell which one is larger, and it's not even close.

But I've already seen how nonsensical your scaling arguments are, so I'm not even gonna try too hard. Lol.
 

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Lol, get that shit out of here. Your post doesn't even begin to explain how you're reasoning makes sense. Comparing the surrounding Mountains to each explosion is enough to tell which one is larger, and it's not even close.

But I've already seen how nonsensical your scaling arguments are, so I'm not even gonna try too hard. Lol.

Use something like mountains to scale and burst at me because i used a land mark in NV like the vote statues to scaleLol
 
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Using something like mountains to scale

Yes, because for the most part, Mountains in this manga have shown to be near the same size.


and burst at me because i used a land mark in NV like the statues to scaleLol

Except you didn't scale. You said, let's use the statues to compare, and then said that it's smaller than one let alone all 6, even though anyone with a pair of working eyes knows that's BS.

Then there's the fact the Bijuu Dama dwarfs Naruto's BDRS. so saying that 1 BDRS>1 Kurama Avatar Bijuu Dama by far makes zero logical sense.
 

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KG ,just to make it short ,how big is the single statue compared to a biju?
 

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Are you saying what it can survive, or what it can overpower? If Overpower, it's a fail at 5. If it's survive, it might clear up to 7(might), which would kick its but for sure. (don't think tailed beast ransenshuriken>Juubi V2 TBB, or, due to no surroundings, it's impossible to scale other than "it's huge")
 

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Lol, dafuq? Gets nuked by the Juubl's Laser despite BM Naruto surviving it? Took a combination of PS Chidori and Bijuu Dama yet it gets nuked by 9 Bijuu FRS?

I find the 9 BFRS way more dangerous that the combination clash, and both Naruto and Sasuke took it without any significant damage, it was honestly written.
Maybe I overrated the Juubi Laser since Sasuke's PS looks more resistant than Kurama's chakra Avatar
 

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Yes, because for the most part, Mountains in this manga have shown to be near the same size.




Except you didn't scale. You said, let's use the statues to compare, and then said that it's smaller than one let alone all 6, even though anyone with a pair of working eyes knows that's BS.

Then there's the fact the Bijuu Dama dwarfs Naruto's BDRS. so saying that 1 BDRS>1 Kurama Avatar Bijuu Dama by far makes zero logical sense.


Actually, it does Kidgamer. It makes a load of sense if you analyze what the TBBRS really is. It's not a tailed beast bomb explosion (or at least not exclusively). What it is is the highest level of nature and shape transformation on the TSBs.


None of the 6 TSBs remain while he made 6 TBBRS, and 6 TSBs cam back after the attack.
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This

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Is not an explosion. It's disintegration. It's a higher form of TSB expansion, which is very similar in nature to particle style.

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TBBRS doesn't blow up. It expands into a huge sphere that disintegrates everything it touches.


The actual destructive power is far greater than it looks. Particle style could obliterate an island when its energy is released from a mere fist-sized usage.

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So one could only imagine the destructive force behind a TBBRS, which spans the size of mountain ranges.


And then there's this.

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Naruto was making sure he didn't hit him. This caution would imply that, if they hit, Sasuke would be killed.
 
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I find the 9 BFRS way more dangerous that the combination clash, and both Naruto and Sasuke took it without any significant damage, it was honestly written.
Maybe I overrated the Juubi Laser since Sasuke's PS looks more resistant than Kurama's chakra Avatar

Except it's not more dangerous in any way, shape, or form.

KG ,just to make it short ,how big is the single statue compared to a biju?

Who knows? Probably close to the size of Sasuke's Rikudo PS and Naruto's Rikudo Kurama Avatar, thus far larger than a regular Bijuu. I do know that I've already shown on multiple fronts that BDFRS is not stronger than Kurama Avatar's Bijuu Dama, so it's not even relevant. If you have a counter argument, just post it instead of wasting time asking me these questions.
 

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Actually, it does Kidgamer. It makes a load of sense if you analyze what the TBBRS really is. It's not a tailed beast bomb explosion (or at least not exclusively). What it is highest level of nature and shape transformation on the TSBs.


None of the 6 TSBs remain while he made 6 TBBRS, and 6 TSBs cam back after the attack.
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This

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Is not an explosion. It's disintegration. It's a higher form of TSB expansion, which is very similar in nature to particle style.

Probably not.

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TBBRS doesn't blow up. It expands into a huge sphere that disintegrates everything it touches.
Assuming it's strong enough, and there's nothing that would imply it's stronger than Naruto's Bijuu Dama in Avatar Form, and then there's the fact that the effect that Bijuu Dama Rasen Shuriken had on the Meteors is completely opposite of what it should've done had it not been exclusively a Bijuu Dama explosion. Jinton disintegrates. BDFRS blows up.

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You can see fragments. That's not disintegration.

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Once again, you can see fragments. If it were Jinton esque disintegration, you wouldn't be seeing rubble.

The actual destructive power is far greater than it looks. Particle style could obliterate an island when its energy is released from a mere fist-sized usage.

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Fist sized usage is a terrible way to describe it considering the actual beam is much larger than a fist, regardless of whether or not it comes from a fist.


So one could only imagine the destructive force behind a TBBRS, which spans the size of mountain ranges.


Though there's little evidence that it'd be stronger than a Bijuu Dama that dwarfs it assuming it has the properties of the Gudo Dama's expansive disintegration.
 

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Except it's not more dangerous in any way, shape, or form.



Who knows? Probably close to the size of Sasuke's Rikudo PS and Naruto's Rikudo Kurama Avatar, thus far larger than a regular Bijuu. I do know that I've already shown on multiple fronts that BDFRS is not stronger than Kurama Avatar's Bijuu Dama, so it's not even relevant. If you have a counter argument, just post it instead of wasting time asking me these questions.

Lol ,sasuke PS didnt get bigger neither nor naruto's avatar that can be easily deduced by comparing naruto's size to the avatar head or sasuke's size to the forehead jewelry ,that doesn't even start to make sense

I mean if something of biju size like the statues looked like that compared to the TTb explosion ,how do you think that ttb range is bigger than ttbrs 's which was as big as the tree stump ?
 

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Probably not.


Assuming it's strong enough, and there's nothing that would imply it's stronger than Naruto's Bijuu Dama in Avatar Form, and then there's the fact that the effect that Bijuu Dama Rasen Shuriken had on the Meteors is completely opposite of what it should've done had it not been exclusively a Bijuu Dama explosion. Jinton disintegrates. BDFRS blows up.

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You can see fragments. That's not disintegration.


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Once again, you can see fragments. If it were Jinton esque disintegration, you wouldn't be seeing rubble.

You see dust being blasted up when Obito uses an expanding TSB as well.

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Despite the fact that dust is being kicked up, it's clear that such a thing is disintegration by the fact that Obito had half his body missing while every other part of him was untouched.

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In addition, what you saw with the derbies could easily just be areas where the TBBRS did not engulf completely.

Fist sized usage is a terrible way to describe it considering the actual beam is much larger than a fist, regardless of whether or not it comes from a fist.

Well, I'm going by the size of the container.


Though there's little evidence that it'd be stronger than a Bijuu Dama that dwarfs it assuming it has the properties of the Gudo Dama's expansive disintegration.

The nature itself is its evidence. TSBs are Jinton with liquid properties for its container's shape. Jinton was never the size of an ordinary TBB,(not even taking into account that Ohnoiki's charka has much lower intensity than a biju) but clearly surpasses it in destructive power. Needless to say, the equivalent of more natures+ultimate nature transformation+ultimate shape transformation+equivalent chakra to what's going in a TBB screams at the idea that an expanding TSB would be far more powerful than a mere TBB formed by the same type of chakra.
 

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You see dust being blasted up when Obito uses an expanding TSB as well.

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Despite the fact that dust is being kicked up, it's clear that such a thing is disintegration by the fact that Obito had half his body missing while every other part of him was untouched.

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In addition, what you saw with the derbies could easily just be areas where the TBBRS did not engulf completely

That's dust. Not debris. Two completely different things. Whether or not what Obito did being disintegration doesn't prove that what Naruto's BDFRS did was disintegration. It clearly isn't. That debris in the first panel was made when the meteors collided with the Bijuu Dama's explosion. If that was disintegration, no debris would've been made. It obviously isn't areas it hasn't engulfed completely because the only areas that haven't been touched are the ones that are undamaged, and the debris is literally coming from the explosion.



Well, I'm going by the size of the container.

That doesn't make sense.




The nature itself is its evidence. TSBs are Jinton with liquid properties for its container's shape. Jinton was never the size of an ordinary TBB,(not even taking into account that Ohnoiki's charka has much lower intensity than a biju) but clearly surpasses it in destructive power. Needless to say, the equivalent of more natures+ultimate nature transformation+ultimate shape transformation+equivalent chakra to what's going in a TBB screams at the idea that an expanding TSB would be far more powerful than a mere TBB formed by the same type of chakra.

The bold would be accurate....if the Bijuu Dama from Kurama Mode Naruto didn't dwarf the BDFRS Naruto made. The sheer difference in power has to be made up by the Gudo Dama, and there's little proof that there is.
 
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