Sasuke's perfect susanoo is small as shit.
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Rikudou Tobi
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You've got it wrong. V3 Susanoo was same size as Kurama's avatar, so naturally PS would be bigger, but Kishi wanted them to stay equal through all manga. SM>MS>BSM>EMS>Rinnegan>RSM, same goes for their avatars. Kishi had to nerf Sasuke's PS size so it stays equal to Kurama's avatar, if he didn't do that and Sasuke's PS was the size it should be, we would not have those "epic" clashes like this
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except that kurama was the size of perfect susanoo to begin with
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I will Just post Ambi's post here :lol
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Seems the stupid ''error 502'' is gone.
That's what you did? I couldn't tell what that first image meant since it was so small that I couldn't even see Naruto. Here's the full image (as much as NB allows it, so open it in a new tab and zoom it) of your scan:
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So tell me, do you really think that the above is the same as:
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Yeah, RSM Kurama has been drawn in a way that shows Naruto taking a sizable part of its mouth while making a BD similar to BM/BSM Kurama. However, Naruto's also been drawn in RSM Kurama only to look like he's theYou must be registered for see links, compared toYou must be registered for see links. This is actually the same thing in Sasuke's case - that previous scan shows he takes up a large part of the V3's head, and here we have Rikudou Sasuke in his PS [You must be registered for see links][You must be registered for see links]. Oh, but I forgot, EMS V3 is equal to PS in size.And by the same token, RSM Kurama is also somehow equal to V3 in size, despite the case being clearly different with the scans I've posted.
You must be registered for see linksare not the same size asYou must be registered for see links, no matter how you try to twist it, and there's no scan that can convince me otherwise. Like... I can't even put into words how ridiculous it is to think BM Naruto and EMS Sasuke's avatars are the same size post-boost, not only because of the scans, but because of the fact that their chakra is immensely larger afterwords, giving their avatars a size boost as well as a power one.
All your scans do is show BM's size. Nothing else. Naruto has never been drawn as small as I already showed with RSM Kurama, nor was BM Kurama ever drawn and compared to a mountain. You're obviously still trying to say that size is inconsistent, which is only the case with RSM Kurama.
1. The mountains in the scans are clearly not the same size, which doesn't even matter. Full Kurama was already shown to be smaller than the ones in VoTE. Assume they're larger than your average mountain. Full Kurama would then be comparable to a small/medium-sized mountain, while Half Kurama, who isYou must be registered for see links, wouldn't be comparable to any mountain, no matter how big or small. If even Full Kurama wasn't the size of those mountains, there is no way 50% Kurama would appear to be around the size of any mountain. And yet, RSM Kurama did appear that way, meaning that there is no way it's the size of BM Kurama, who would've been tiny compared to them.
2. This ''drawn to scale'' you keep using is just an empty way to say that you don't know yourself how they are portrayed, why that matters, or how one is drawn compared to the other. The mountains in one of the scans aren't the same size as the ones in the other. Does that matter when talking about RSM Kurama's size? No, because BM Kurama is not comparable to any mountain, therefore it isn't as big as RSM Kurama.
On top of all that there's you somehow reaching the conclusion I somewhere said the mountains RSM Kurama crashed into were bigger than the ones Full Kurama was portrayed next to. I'm comparing the way both Kuramas are portrayed, not the mountains themselves. Already explained why the mountains size or them being ''drawn to scale'' doesn't matter. The impact resulting in RSM Kurama's crash was bigger than the mountains, it doesn't mean Kurama himself was bigger, or if he was, then those mountains are smaller than the ones Full Kurama cut, which is still irrelevant, since BM Kurama would never have been made to seem like it's the size of any mountain.
Then there's you agreeing with the scan that guy posted, even though the cloud of smoke is much larger than the spot he marked just because the speech bubble came from there. Lastly, you can clearly see the rubble around the crash site which is the size of the mountains in the background. That little area he outlined somehow making that much bigger area of impact is laughable.
RSM Kurama is as big as Rikudou Sasuke's PS, which is as big as Madara's PS. Scans that show the immense difference between his V3 and PS are in my first point, and honestly, anyone can tell claiming Rikudou PS and EMS V3 are equal in size is stupid without even having to look at any scans.
Sorry, but it is not the same. At all. For this to be applicable, Juugo would have to have two sizes - 100% Juugo and 50% Juugo. Half Juugo would be shorter than Sasuke in every panel. After a powerup, which is different than getting his other half back, he starts getting shown to be taller than Sasuke in some panels, even though his full power isn't back, which is pretty much the case with RSM Kurama. The inconsistencies with its size started only after the Rikudou boost.
Though I somewhat do agree with your last sentence.
This size nonsense has already been addressed. Your evidence boils down to putting words in my mouth and drawing conclusions from trying to say mountains being different in size = RSM Kurama and Full Kurama being non-comparable, which is not the case.
Already addressed. Basically, I've never denied Naruto being drawn to RSM Kurama's head has sometimes been same as his BM Kurama portrayal, since that is obvious. When Naruto has been drawn in his BM/BSM avatar to be as miniature as the the scans I posted in my first point instead of taking up Kurama's mouth, or has been drawn to be equal to Sasuke's PS (which is >>> his V3), or has been drawn in the same scan as a mountain (doesn't even have to be next to it, any viewpoint will do) so that he seems comparable to it, that's where I can be convinced, even though BSM Kurama can never be portrayed around the size of any mountain, as I already said, nor can it be the size of Sasuke's PS.
Again, when you can show me Naruto's size being way smaller than what should be the standard for Half Kurama, or have any mountains BSM Kurama conveniently crashed in, then we can talk. Right now you're just using one point and ignoring the other because it suits your case.
I don't ignore any evidence, all you've said has been addressed and countered. Though I will admit I came off rude. You're definitely not biased or anything, you're actually one of the better members here, so I am sorry if I appeared condescending.
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Obviously, full Kurama is bigger than half from VoTE
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If Naruto had full Kurama at vote 2, then Sasuke PS wouldn't need to be nerfed
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Complete Susanō'o was the size of Half Kurama, Perfect Susanō'o was the size of full Kurama.