Sasuke's limits?

[Crossroads]

Intelligence is a glass and knowledge and information gained is water. He's merely suggesting that Sasuke's glass may be a bit bigger.

If you have a problem with him, then that's that. You sound a little flustered and you should really get over it, it's the internet.​

 

[saw2097]

Intelligence is a glass and knowledge and information gained is water. He's merely suggesting that Sasuke's glass may be a bit bigger.

If you have a problem with him, then that's that. You sound a little flustered and you should really get over it, it's the internet.​

I am not.

I simply think he is a fanboy and am pointing it out.

He would have to work much harder if he wanted to get under my skin.

Edit: Admittedly I am getting a kick at watching him jump up and down and scream Sasuke is smarter.


I actually stopped taking the debate seriously a while ago, this is just me teasing at this point.

 

[Stark]

Seem to be late to the party bruv, for that I apologize.

Sasuke is 16-17 years old and already surpassed Madara in every way, obtained the MS/EMS at 16 years old, mastered it within the year. Awoke his Rinnengan at the age of 17, knowledgeable to an extent that he can use Chibaku Tensei to subdue the 9 Tailed beasts, not only that but he put all nine under a Genjutsu with one glance, all 9 at one time. Whereas Madara had to use Limbo to drag them towards him and use force rather than visual prowess. Madara at his peak, dual Rinnengan and whispering eye on his forehead is still stronger than Sasuke but as an Uchiha, Sasuke is more impressive and both of them without the assistance of SO6P nor the DNA of the Senju, both EMS Sasuke in the future would surely be superior. Madara awoke his EMS in his mid thirties and Sasuke in his teens, there is so much room for improvement it's insane to think of Sasuke's future capabilities.

#NLS
#SS
#SQUAD

 

[Nagi]

When this war is over, Sasuke need to hit up Yoruichi Shihoin from Bleach and learn the art of Shunkō aka Flash War Cry. XD He could combine his yin chakra with lightning chakra to create yin-lighting charka. Then use that yin-lightning charka augment his physical strength and speed (Similar to the Raikage's Lightning Release Armour.) Then he could then create two main techniques to this. The first technique will allows him to instantly neutralize an opponent's movement or ninjutsu. (He would use his sharingan to analyze how much chakra naruto put into his rasengan, then put out the same quality of chakra to cancel out naruto's rasengan.) the 2nd technique should be just like Killua's Godspeed Whirlpool ability. The ability to sense his opponents movements and have his body react automatically, which he uses to evade enemy attacks with flawless speed and timing. That right there would make sasuke unstoppable. But oh well, ain't gonna happen.

Now with the rinnegan... There gotta be a way for sasuke have access to all past Uchiha's skills and knowledge. He basically can create any jutsu he want. And with time, he can craft his own spiritual weapons if he want. This shit would be so interesting. But that also not gonna happen. I just think it would be interesting. I just think that being a Uchiha with a rinnegan and being a lightning user, you have unlimited potential.

Welp. That was enough fanfic talk... XD

 

[saw2097]

1. Dead man should stay in the grave than to having a cup of tea on earth. Not as dead as it sounds

2. Ninshu? That's nothing but simply controlling his chakra, its a fancy way of saying "the law of breath"

3. Heck he has rinnegans and know his mama whole life. If he can't figure out, he's gotta be brain dead

4. Yin and yang?? Are you serious??? That is basically the power of his left and right hand. Even a dumbass can figure out how to work with two hands giving him 30 years of time

5. He and his bro been spoonfed by his mama like there's no tomorrow since birth, is it really that much of a challenge for him??? XD

I can't tell if you are being serious or not so I am just going to assume you are kidding.

Number one just throws me off.

 

[Transcendence]

I am not.

I simply think he is a fanboy and am pointing it out.

He would have to work much harder if he wanted to get under my skin.

Edit: Admittedly I am getting a kick at watching him jump up and down and scream Sasuke is smarter.


I actually stopped taking the debate seriously a while ago, this is just me teasing at this point.

You have to actually acknowledge any point I put forth explaining my stance, but I'm really not surprised. And this wasn't a debate. Last time I checked, I at least had someone agree with me. Call me a fanboy all you want. I know I'm a real fan.

 

[Sharingan King]

I really don't see how the Sage can be called intelligent.

He lived for atleast 100+ yrs. He had time to learn and train with his bro Hamura. He had his mama before she turned evil.

Sasuke had the rinnegan for about 2 hrs and is pulling of feats at the level of Rikudu himself (according to Kurama).

Rikudu was stunned by Sasuke's solo glance and solo clap.

Rikudu purposefully gave all power to Ashura and maintained a power imbalance for centuries; yet people call him intelligent. It took him centuries to figure out that it was his doings that created the hatred between Ashura and Indra.

The Sage may have a lot of knowledge because he has lived for centuries but he is far from intelligent.

Knowledge=\=Intelligence

 

[Transcendence]

I really don't see how the Sage can be called intelligent.

He lived for atleast 100+ yrs. He had time to learn and train with his bro Hamura. He had his mama before she turned evil.

Sasuke had the rinnegan for about 2 hrs and is pulling of feats at the level of Rikudu himself (according to Kurama).

Rikudu was stunned by Sasuke's solo glance and solo clap.

Rikudu purposefully gave all power to Ashura and maintained a power imbalance for centuries; yet people call him intelligent. It took him centuries to figure out that it was his doings that created the hatred between Ashura and Indra.

The Sage may have a lot of knowledge because he has lived for centuries but he is far from intelligent.

Knowledge=\=Intelligence

That's pretty much my point. He is knowledgable, but not naturally intelligent.

 

[lanakui8]

I don't see how using deva path through PS would do anything since deva path has nothing to do with how big or physically powerful the caster is.

Preta path, asura path, and human path through PS would be pretty damn haxed though, that would put him at or above the level he is now w/ the bijuus assuming he has the chakra to use that as long as he currently can use PS.

 

[lanakui8]

Rikudu purposefully gave all power to Ashura and maintained a power imbalance for centuries; yet people call him intelligent. It took him centuries to figure out that it was his doings that created the hatred between Ashura and Indra.

lol do people actually believe that the sage is responsible for Indra 1) being fooled by black zetsu and 2) choosing to war against his brother out of jealousy?

What do only the good guys have free will now?

 

[Sharingan King]

lol do people actually believe that the sage is responsible for Indra 1) being fooled by black zetsu and 2) choosing to war against his brother out of jealousy?

What do only the good guys have free will now?

Its called common sense.

Imagine that you were a very good child and took care of your parents in old age. You worked hard to support the family and provided everything they needed.

Your brother was unable to provide any meaningful assistance to the family. However, upon death your parents left everything to your good-for-nothing brother. How would you feel?

Indra felt betrayed by Hagoromo. He was always more naturally gifted and intelligent than Ashura but Hagoromo stilled favoured Ashura.

Black zetsu just took advantage of Indra's already existing hatred for Hagoromo and Ashura.

Even Hagoromo admits it was his fault. Stop playing dumb.

 

[lanakui8]

Its called common sense.

Imagine that you were a very good child and took care of your parents in old age. You worked hard to support the family and provided everything they needed.

Your brother was unable to provide any meaningful assistance to the family. However, upon death your parents left everything to your good-for-nothing brother. How would you feel?

...um, I'd feel like my parents made the right choice because if my brother is so untalented that he can't even offer any meaningful assistance to my family, then he needs whatever my parents left him, while I, being talented, wouldn't need that stuff.

Plus, your example has almost nothing to do with indra and asura. Asura gained the ability to 'provide meaningful assistance to the family' before he was given hagoromo's gift.

Next, if I was so insecure and obsessed with power/money that I would go to war against my own brother because my father gave him the wealth, then it just proves that my father was right in not choosing me with the task of finding world peace.

Indra felt betrayed by Hagoromo. He was always more naturally gifted and intelligent than Ashura but Hagoromo stilled favoured Ashura.

Black zetsu just took advantage of Indra's already existing hatred for Hagoromo and Ashura.

Even Hagoromo admits it was his fault. Stop playing dumb.

Unless you believe and want to assert that Indra has no free will and only hagoromo does, the indra is responsible for indra's actions, not anyone else.

It's indra's fault for feeling betrayed by hagoromo. Hagoromo never promised him anything, it's indra's own fault for creating these false expectations and getting mad when these false expectations weren't met. It's also indra's fault for choosing to act upon his hatred for hagoromo and asura, and for agreeing to do whatever black zetsu urged him on to do.

Hagoromo's goal was world peace. Indra proved hagoromo's decision to choose asura right when he decided to war against asura. If Indra was truly after world peace, then he puts whatever hatred he has aside for that goal, he doesn't do the exact opposite of that goal just because he's jealous of his brother.

You are the one who's playing dumb, it's blatantly obvious when you have to constantly assert that Indra is not responsible for indra's actions.

 

[Nagi]

...um, I'd feel like my parents made the right choice because if my brother is so untalented that he can't even offer any meaningful assistance to my family, then he needs whatever my parents left him, while I, being talented, wouldn't need that stuff.

Plus, your example has almost nothing to do with indra and asura. Asura gained the ability to 'provide meaningful assistance to the family' before he was given hagoromo's gift.

Next, if I was so insecure and obsessed with power/money that I would go to war against my own brother because my father gave him the wealth, then it just proves that my father was right in not choosing me with the task of finding world peace.



Unless you believe and want to assert that Indra has no free will and only hagoromo does, the indra is responsible for indra's actions, not anyone else.

It's indra's fault for feeling betrayed by hagoromo. Hagoromo never promised him anything, it's indra's own fault for creating these false expectations and getting mad when these false expectations weren't met. It's also indra's fault for choosing to act upon his hatred for hagoromo and asura, and for agreeing to do whatever black zetsu urged him on to do.

Hagoromo's goal was world peace. Indra proved hagoromo's decision to choose asura right when he decided to war against asura. If Indra was truly after world peace, then he puts whatever hatred he has aside for that goal, he doesn't do the exact opposite of that goal just because he's jealous of his brother.

You are the one who's playing dumb, it's blatantly obvious when you have to constantly assert that Indra is not responsible for indra's actions.

Watch five fingers and see if you still feel that way.

 

[lanakui8]

Watch five fingers and see if you still feel that way.

How about you take the arguments that five fingers makes, and post how they are relevant to our discussion and then I'll respond to said arguments?

 

[Nagi]

How about you take the arguments that five fingers makes, and post how they are relevant to our discussion and then I'll respond to said arguments?

Damn. It is lovely show. Anyway, You shouldn't be looking at Indra with a white/black mindset.

 

[Romy9]

I love how Sasuke fanboys accuse me of not presenting a logical counter yet never actually provide any solid proof of their argument.

This whole thread is a sweet irony. Sasuke faptard created the thread saying he wants open minded people in the thread. Can't get more ironic than that.

 

[lanakui8]

Damn. It is lovely show. Anyway, You shouldn't be looking at Indra with a white/black mindset.

I'm not looking at indra with a white/black mindset, I'm looking at the decisions an individual makes with a white/black mindset in that a person is ultimately responsible for the decisions they make regardless of whatever outside factors might influence them to make that decision.

Indra is grey just like asura is grey, the ultimate responsibility of decisions that indra makes are not.

If you don't agree, post an argument.

 

[Mad Daz]

People must remember sasuke only has 1 rinnegan. He will never be able to unlock its full potential.

 

[Nagi]

I'm not looking at indra with a white/black mindset, I'm looking at the decisions an individual makes with a white/black mindset in that a person is ultimately responsible for the decisions they make regardless of whatever outside factors might influence them to make that decision.

Indra is grey just like asura is grey, the ultimate responsibility of decisions that indra makes are not.

If you don't agree, post an argument.

I agree, but I disagree more. If Asura was truly about Ninshū, he should've trie talking to Indra or talk-no-jutsu like Naruto. To me, at the end of the day, once the 2 parties enter a fight, they both at fault no matter who started it or caused it.

And Hagoromo is dumb ass father. With all that power and knowledge he got, he couldn't simply appear in spirit form and have a heart to heart conversation with Indra.

I won't post no thread about this topic to entertain the troll.

 

[lanakui8]

I agree, but I disagree more. If Asura was truly about Ninshū, he should've trie talking to Indra or talk-no-jutsu like Naruto. To me, at the end of the day, once the 2 parties enter a fight, they both at fault no matter who started it or caused it.

....how does asura's decision in anyway shape or form affect what I'm saying about indra?

Asura is grey, indra is grey, whatever asura decided to do is on asura's head, justl like whatever indra decided to do was on indra's head.

Plus, where in the manga did it state or imply that asura didn't try to talk no jutsu indra every time they fought?

And Hagoromo is dumb ass father. With all that power and knowledge he got, he couldn't simply appear in spirit form and have a heart to heart conversation with Indra.

....and what implies that he didn't try that?

And again, why in the world does that make hagoromo in anyway responsible for indra's actions? If Hagoromo didn't try that, then blame hagoromo for not attempting to try that. Don't blame hagoromo for what indra did.